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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 06:18 AM

Work is Becoming More Like Prison As Some Workers Forced to Wear Electronic Bands

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/work-becoming-more-prison-some-workers-forced-wear-electronic-bands-track-everything

Work is Becoming More Like Prison As Some Workers Forced to Wear Electronic Bands That Track Everything They Do (Including Bathroom Breaks)



The human body, with its need for rest, nutrition and hydration, is such an inefficient tool for capitalist production. But while machines are unlikely to replace human workers anytime soon, new technologies can deftly strip workers of their humanity!

The Irish Independent reports that grocery giant TESCO has strapped electronic armbands to their warehouse workers to measure their productivity, tracking their actions so closely that management knows when they briefly pause to drink from a water fountain or take a bathroom break. These unforgivable lapses in productivity impact workers' performance score, which management then apparently uses to terrify them into working faster.

"The devices give a set amount of time for a task, such as 20 minutes to load packets of soft drinks. If they did it in 20 minutes, they would get 100pc, but would get 200pc if they were twice as fast," writes the Independent. Although TESCO denied that bathroom breaks impact productivity scores, one former staffer the Independent spoke with said he got a "surprisingly lower" score when he took a bathroom break.

"Sometimes, management would call staff to an office and tell them they had to do better if their scores were low."

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Reply Work is Becoming More Like Prison As Some Workers Forced to Wear Electronic Bands (Original post)
xchrom Feb 2013 OP
mwooldri Feb 2013 #1
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #12
mwooldri Feb 2013 #35
MADem Feb 2013 #78
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #41
marmar Feb 2013 #2
leveymg Feb 2013 #3
bemildred Feb 2013 #4
Fumesucker Feb 2013 #5
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #14
2naSalit Feb 2013 #20
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #6
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #66
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #67
Yavin4 Feb 2013 #75
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #83
LisaLynne Feb 2013 #7
LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #8
Lochloosa Feb 2013 #10
derby378 Feb 2013 #16
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #26
Glassunion Feb 2013 #43
Heidi Feb 2013 #9
Brickbat Feb 2013 #11
KoKo Feb 2013 #55
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #13
loudsue Feb 2013 #15
Myrina Feb 2013 #17
mwooldri Feb 2013 #38
Myrina Feb 2013 #39
magical thyme Feb 2013 #61
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #18
davidthegnome Feb 2013 #19
MADem Feb 2013 #81
davidthegnome Feb 2013 #82
MADem Feb 2013 #84
KamaAina Feb 2013 #21
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #22
Apophis Feb 2013 #29
Auggie Feb 2013 #36
Glassunion Feb 2013 #46
midwest irish Feb 2013 #48
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #63
Initech Feb 2013 #23
lunatica Feb 2013 #33
Initech Feb 2013 #54
KoKo Feb 2013 #24
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #45
Dirty Socialist Feb 2013 #25
Apophis Feb 2013 #27
malaise Feb 2013 #28
Apophis Feb 2013 #32
Initech Feb 2013 #53
woo me with science Feb 2013 #30
quinnox Feb 2013 #31
durablend Feb 2013 #64
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lunatica Feb 2013 #34
Orrex Feb 2013 #37
Brigid Feb 2013 #40
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #42
Glassunion Feb 2013 #44
midwest irish Feb 2013 #47
Occulus Feb 2013 #56
Apophis Feb 2013 #57
midwest irish Feb 2013 #59
Apophis Feb 2013 #69
Occulus Feb 2013 #72
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #85
midwest irish Feb 2013 #58
Occulus Feb 2013 #70
midwest irish Feb 2013 #73
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #62
BlueJazz Feb 2013 #49
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War Horse Feb 2013 #51
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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:12 AM

1. OK, so when will USDAW get involved?

IMO if the staff are now having tracking armbands, those staff had better join the union ASAP. Sounds somewhat like conditions at the Ford River Rouge factory in the 1930s before the UAW was recognised.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:15 AM

12. TESCO is a UK company. The story is from the UK.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:59 PM

35. And I'm asking when USDAW, a UK union, will get involved.

But given USDAW and Tesco have a somewhat cosy relationship I don't think much will happen anyways.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:35 PM

78. I lived an easy distance from a TESCO years ago; so I did a lot of shopping there.

I thought the prices were out of line and the manager was a shitty little martinet, but I didn't have a lot of spare time so I dealt with it. Every time I went in there, he was always haranguing some poor employee about this or that bullshit "infraction" or method--it was often enough so that I noticed, and this article brought the memories immediately to the fore--I can even see the guy's mean, pissy face before me as I type this!

I guess this tracking band thing is the 21st century version of a Martinet Manager!

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:34 PM

41. sounds more like conditions at the Farben production units at auschwitz.

 

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:19 AM

2. W...T...F?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:32 AM

3. "Break these chains!"

Convicted
Of sins I did commit
Guilty as charged
Yeah, I must admit
Take my loss
Turn it into gain
Set the captives free
And break these chains
Break these chains
To the wages of sin

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:34 AM

4. That's funny, prison has become more like work too.

Coincidence? I think not.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:36 AM

5. That explains recent developments in education then, preparing students for a work environment n/t

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:16 AM

14. TESCO is a UK company. The story is from the UK.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:19 PM

20. THere was a book that was published a few years ago

which explained that our education system is like a prison system and that its primary function is to indoctrinate us into the system of worker drones. I was of that opinion when I was in grades school as I lived in the factory towns of New England and felt that we were being prepared to work in the factory of our own choosing... and that was the extent of our freedom, to choose which factory we would spend our lives toiling in.

I'll have to look around to see if I can find a reference for that book. the author had a rather brief promotional tour since it wasn't highly favored by the MSM given the topic and the honesty presented.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:38 AM

6. "You run one time, you got yourself a set of chains. You run twice you got yourself two sets...

You ain't gonna need no third set, 'cause you gonna get your mind right."

--Captain, Road Prison 36, 'Cool Hand Luke'

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:33 AM

66. Great movie, or the GREATEST movie?

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #66)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:42 AM

67. It's not up there with 'Casablanca' or 'Lawrence of Arabia'

But it's definitely an exceptional movie--and Newman was superb!

I got to meet him when I was volunteering for Kerry in Ohio in '04, and I almost was placed on a speakers' panel with him. Unfortunately, our missing speaker turned up and I didn't have to fill in.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:28 PM

75. "shakin' the tree, boss. shakin the tree."

That's coming next.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:00 PM

83. The movie quotes are terribly apropos. nt

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:53 AM

7. Who needs dignity and human rights at work?

They're PAYING you, so if you are actually working, what's the problem? And who needs unions? Our corporate masters will take care of us and treat us fairly. Unions require you to pay dues and they do not do things 100% correctly all the time!

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:56 AM

8. Compared to hourly people exactly how productive are management people?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:11 AM

10. We sit around reading DU

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Response to Lochloosa (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:36 AM

16. Hey, so do some of us hourly people

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:40 PM

26. That's an interesting question.

Most mid-level management I ever dealt with on the shop floor spent most of their time fucking up my employee's schedules and causing productivity to plummet.

The rest of the time was spent in trying to justify their jobs to the boss.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:37 PM

43. Well... Who the hell else is going to pour over the TPS reports for hours?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:03 AM

9. Kick!

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:13 AM

11. Disgusting.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:27 PM

55. Absolutely...K&R

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:16 AM

13. Link to The Onion.

Oh, wait, that's not a story from The Onion?

Holy shit.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:20 AM

15. Drug testing, bugging people's personal cars w/ gps for company time/personal time,

now they're making them wear these movement trackers?

Who in the hell needs slavery when you have government acceptance of these privacy-violating mechanisms at work?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:54 AM

17. Well, US Call Centers and other 'widget producers' have similar ...

... although not literally 'attached' to employees, workflow software monitors how long it takes a piece of work to get from point A to point B, who touches it, what they do, how long it takes them, and can QA score it.

We are, for the most part, nothing more than cogs in the machine anymore.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:20 PM

38. Any major corporation call center employees work this way.

I work in a "call center" (though it's at home). I am monitored quite closely, especially given banking regulations.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:24 PM

39. exactly.

I used to work for both a for-profit college and an insurance company & sat near the Call Center folks.
They were monitored more closely than any group of people I've ever seen.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:37 AM

61. Every keystroke is monitored and tracked

Every phone call is recorded; calls randomly monitored for "quality assurance." That consists of managers and lead reps listening to our calls and criticizing every. fucking. word. Because they would have done so much better (not). IOW, if you say "you should receive confirmation in xyz days" you are scored down for "tentative language." If you say the wrong number of days, you "fail" the call because you said 7-10 days instead of, say, 5-7 days, by mistake. If you ask to hold for 2 minutes while you research something, and you take 2 minutes and 1 second, you are scored down (because everybody knows the customer is timing your call and will be furious if they agreed to hold for 2 minutes, not 2 minutes and 1 second). 1 second over a certain hold time, and you "fail" the call, period.

We do get to take bathroom breaks; phones are coded for "break aways" versus "scheduled break" times versus "system issues." Also coded for "after call" time to measure how long we take to do work associated with a given call. And all that time taken away from phone availability is held against you at performance review time.

My former manager used to monitor our "after call" time religiously; anything over 60 seconds or so, and she'd be on our cases. The more we did work during the call, the freer we were to take calls immediately after. Of course, trying to key in stuff while simultaneously listening/talking to the customer meant more mistakes. Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.

All this for a princely $13/hour or so

And they still haven't figured out why they have 40+% turnover!

And they're in panic mode because their quality scores are dropping. They still haven't figured out that anybody who hasn't been able to use the job as a stepping stone to something better -- mostly people like me in our 50s-60s who fell through the employment "trap door" and are just holding out to retire -- honestly doesn't give a flying fuck. And the rest of us know with that turnover rate, we won't get fired unless we really, truly fuck up.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:57 AM

18. F___ing incredible. People aren't machines, and don't operate like machines! nt.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:30 PM

19. Funny

I was just thinking something sort of similar. I was wondering about nano-technology, drones, droids and so on. I was wondering how long it would be before our technology was advanced enough to have mechanical workers replace human ones. A world where humans could live as they chose? Without being required to work? Well, it's something of a novel idea, which I actually found in a fictional novel based on a futuristic society (And There Will Be Dragons).

The idea of management watching my every move... it's creepy. Like, what if you really had to go and it took longer? Would they send someone to check on you? Activate bathroom cameras? Maybe they'll create an armband that will send an electric charge through your body if you take too long. Brave New World...

Perhaps when it comes to corporations, there's no more need to make things up. The reality is disturbing enough as it is.

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Response to davidthegnome (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:43 PM

81. They'll have toilets that weigh your turd and determine how long it took to produce it!

And microphones, that detect the rustle of a newspaper whilst you're ensconced on the throne!!

Too much rustling after the last plop, and they'll assume you stayed on the can to read the sports page or Dear Abby! Punish The Slackers!!!

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Response to MADem (Reply #81)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:51 PM

82. Ahem...

Remind me not to read your posts when I'm drinking coffee. Fortunately, I missed the keyboard.

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Response to davidthegnome (Reply #82)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:40 PM

84. Sorry!!!!!!

Good thing I didn't pull out THIS icon pair to "polish off" my post, I suppose!!!




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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:21 PM

21. The UK is actually "ahead" of us in becoming a surveillance state.

There are cameras all over London.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:24 PM

22. Walmart is one step closer to that with their "task management" program...

 

We had to scan our badges and keep management remotely updated on what we were working on and how long each task would take.

Eventually they'll just bring in telescreens and all stores will be managed from Bentonville.

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Response to EastKYLiberal (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:48 PM

29. That's one of the reasons why I quit Walmart.

That task management program was a joke. It'd say we had two hours to unload a truck and if we didn't have it unloaded in that time, we'd get in trouble. Never mind that things fall, spill, or we had to move pallets.

I hate Walmart. I don't shop there anymore.

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Response to Apophis (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:01 PM

36. Beyond "efficient" and into "sick" ...

I don't/won't shop there either.

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Response to EastKYLiberal (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:43 PM

46. I think Walmart used to lock their employees in the store on overnights?

I could be mistaking them with another company.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:53 PM

48. They did

 

and sued for it. It happened at a Sams Club in Dayton Ohio

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #48)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:49 AM

63. And several others. (nt)

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:25 PM

23. When will the war on workers stop?

Bathroom breaks cause lower productivity scores? What? Do they want us to wear diapers to work?

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Response to Initech (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:55 PM

33. Sssssh! Don't give them ideas!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:03 PM

54. Oh right! They might act on it!

Plus all the bathrooms would be converted to changing rooms- which would probably be the least sanitary places on earth...

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:39 PM

24. "Horsemeat scandal keeps running, as Tesco sells withdrawn burgers"

I was watching BBC this weekend and didn't know who Tesco was but they were reporting on their selling of the Horsemeat Burgers and prepared foods.... So, this might be of interest to go along with your post

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Horsemeat scandal keeps running, as Tesco sells withdrawn burgers

By Michael Northcott Friday, 25 January 2013
Most media outlets must be getting a little hoarse from shouting about contaminated burgers, but a Tesco store in Oxford is in the muck after a cashier sold some of the withdrawn patties a week after the scandal broke.

The UK’s largest supermarket chain has had to apologise and launch an investigation after its store in Cowley, Oxford, managed to sell a contaminated horsemeat burger days after they had been withdrawn from shelves.

Scandal erupted after a BBC reporter succeeded in buying a pack of Tesco own-brand frozen quarter pounders, thanks to a cashier who overrode an alert message on the till.

Tesco trotted out a statement quick sharp: ‘While this product was not implicated in the FSAI investigation, and was withdrawn as a precaution, we are urgently investigating how this product came to be on a shelf in store.

‘The block on purchase at the checkout should not have been overridden. We sincerely apologise for this, and we have spoken to the store to ensure this does not happen again.’

If you haven’t heard a bit about the horsemeat story then you must have been on another planet. But just in case, last week Tesco came under fire after a food safety test found traces of horse DNA in some of its beef burgers. A couple of other supermarkets got dragged down in the scandal too because of shared suppliers, and a torrent of horse-related puns swamped Twitter for a few days.

http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/1168399/horsemeat-scandal-keeps-running-tesco-sells-withdrawn-burgers/

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Response to KoKo (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:42 PM

45. that's expanded way past tesco, throughout europe, & has been connected to criminal gangs

 

& arms traders.

ain't neoliberalism wonderful?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:39 PM

25. Do they have "Correction Collars"?

I bet 100 quaatlus they unionize!

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:42 PM

27. That's horrible and inexcusable.

There's no need to monitor employees and their work habits in such an invasive way.

Walmart does something similar, but they don't put armbands on their employees (yet). They task your employee badge number into a task management program and you're expected to get a particular task finished in an X amount of time. If you don't, you get in trouble

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:47 PM

28. There is no employer on this planet who could make me wear an electronic band

Not one

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Response to malaise (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:52 PM

32. Same here.

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Response to malaise (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:01 PM

53. +1000000000

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:48 PM

30. Yep, it's getting dystopian out there. nt

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:51 PM

31. None dare call it slave labor

"Welcome to the work force, here is your monitoring wrist band. Please wear it at all times, and we will give you permission when you can go to the bathroom or leave the facility."

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Response to quinnox (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:04 AM

64. Of course it's not slave labor to them

They'll reply "You can quit your job whenever you want...there's the door BYE"

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Response to durablend (Reply #64)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:41 PM

80. yeah, the corporate idea of employee freedom is like a slave being able to choose his master.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:57 PM

34. UC Berkeley calls it's employees "Human Capital" now

No more Human Resources Management. It's now Human Capital Management.

It used to be that when someone's job ended it was called a Separation. Now it's called a Termination.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:09 PM

37. Now that's what I call a capital offense

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:32 PM

40. How long before this starts over here?

Not long at all, I'm sure.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:35 PM

42. Nothing new, just a new gadget

I'm a shoprat, at the "skilled trade" (Prototype machinist) level. I've been drug tested, phone restricted, surveilled by camera, and compared to time and labor standard since dirt was new - never mind the part about being ridden like a rented pony. And when you live in the guts of the industrial revolution, the miseries of piece-work and the Taylor model are never far away.

Thing of it is, productivity gains from beating the slaves fade fast, and often go negative long-term. Further, the costs of "whooping the nitwits" are considerable, even in the short term. This is well known among professional managers, but lesser skeezballs can't resist the temptation, even as it tanks their (often family) companies.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:40 PM

44. How soon before they go with implants?

Didn't the last book of the Bible mention crap like this?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:50 PM

47. There is a big company in Ohio that does this.

 

I wont type the name because they are notorious for monitoring their online presence and going after people who post negative things (seriously, they have a department devoted to this). They are consistently rated one of the worst companies to work for. One of their policies is that you can only have two pictures on your desk at any time. You know those frames that hold more than one picture (sort of like a mini collage)? Well, that violates their rule because it is more than two pictures. They also test periodically for nicotine. If you have any in your system you are terminated.

Best of all: The work ID has a sensor in it that tells where you are and what you do at all times. If you take too many bathroom breaks it will show up on your eval and you will get in trouble for it. If you stop by the water cooler too much, same thing.

Needless to say, they have a high turnover rate. Their entire business model is based on the idea that it's the employees who are the problem. They mostly hire college students who work during the summers or for a week months after graduation.

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #47)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:19 AM

56. If you aren't willing even to speak their name out loud, we all may as well stop trying right now

because they have won, won completely, and won forever.

We should never tolerate that level of fear, that we, non-employees, who are not customers, dare not speak their name due to possible reprisals. That's just.... sick. And wrong.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #56)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:20 AM

57. Agreed.

And if that company really does what the poster claimed, I don't see how he/she should get in trouble for pointing that out.

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Response to Apophis (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:53 AM

59. Ok

 

Check out # 3 on the worst list and do some research for yourself.

http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/30/netflix-adobe-google-make-best-places-to-work-list-att-ebay-radioshack-among-the-worst/


what is with the ?

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #59)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:33 AM

69. Reynolds and Reynolds sounds like a horrible company to work for.

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Response to Apophis (Reply #57)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:09 PM

72. I recall a few instances where a company that was being discussed here on DU actually made a name

on here to confront us directly regarding our claims about them.

I don't recall it ever going well for any of them.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #72)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 04:16 PM

85. I'm curious if that kind of damage control has ever, ever actually worked

I mean, there's gotta be at least one, somewhere, but I can't see it.

The last job I had - which sucked, but it was a conventional kind of suck as opposed to the Sith Lord suck that describes a few of the companies in this thread - kept dropping any kind of potential duties involving computers or the intarwebz on me because I was the closest person to a computer-literate person the company had. At one point the owner was made aware of companies out there whose job is social media damage control, got all excited about it, and told me to get in on that with regards to our company.

Having to explain at length exactly why that was a Terrible Idea In All Possible Ways certainly broke up the routine for the next few days...

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Response to Occulus (Reply #56)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:49 AM

58. That's just.... sick. And wrong.

 

And its completely legal for them to do it. Theyve been challenged before and its legal. Sorry im not going to put my ass on the line and risk getting sued. Even if I win, which I would, I will be financially destitute with the legal fees.

check out #3 on the list of worst places to work. Do some research yourself. Look up the employee reviews on a website like glassdoor or something.

http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/30/netflix-adobe-google-make-best-places-to-work-list-att-ebay-radioshack-among-the-worst/

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #58)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:00 PM

70. Oh, it's legal all right.

I didn't mean to sound like my comment was directed at you. Apologies.

It's the fact they DO that that's sick and wrong. And after all, doesn't that reputation for this sort of "online brand protection" do them the same sort of damage to their reputation?

I know I won't be doing business with them, even if they are in a business I may be a customer of, just because of that!

edit: I think you're probably safe in saying that Reynolds & Reynolds is a shit company. If they didn't sue Glassdoor or the blogger that repeated the results of their survey, I don't think they can come after you with any hope of success.

Personally, I hope I do get a nastygram from them. A countersuit over the repeating of results of a survey of their own employees taken four years ago would be an easy way for me to make a respectable pile of cash. Perhaps that's why they didn't go after Glassdoor (an assumption on my part, but I think a reasonable one, given that the article is still up)... they knew they'd lose, and lose badly.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #70)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:30 PM

73. Thanks!

 

They do a lot of the auto-trader magazines and things like that. So if you are in the car business beware. Sorry, I am overly paranoid about things.

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #47)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:48 AM

62. I always wonder how many thousands of dollars those policies cost those companies

Never mind the ill will, the turnover rate (which means training time for new staff galore) and general douchery; just consider the time and money burned by conjuring that sort of policy in the first place.

A big company deciding on something like the two-picture rule would have to get a bunch of guys together, determine that a number of pictures is somehow a problem, then figure out how many pictures is acceptable, address things like the collage loophole, decide on enforcement mechanisms, then implement all of that by telling the staff (likely as not in a meeting) and enforcing the rules.

I mean, even before getting to the point of telling Jones here that he's got 2.25 pictures on his desk rather than the permitted 2.00, I have to wonder how many personweeks of time, most of it among the presumably quite expensive tiers of upper management, went into that?

And some companies wonder why their business isn't doing so well at times.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:53 PM

49. Knowing about electronics and computers, I'd love to have one of those collars.

I'd hack the %$^%# things so everybody would be doing the work of 6 people.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:09 PM

50. I'm reminded of a video I feature on YouTube sometimes

You'll love the end:

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:11 PM

51. Holy crap, what a depressing read n/t

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:15 PM

52. Some people never know when to stop

If the company makes a profit, give it a rest, geez. Do they have to squeeze every penny out?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:11 AM

65. This will spread to the US if it hasn't already

Unless of course if it's outlawed.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #65)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:08 PM

71. I worked for a rather large grocery store warehouse for a while

 

it was one of the worst jobs I ever had-just fucking miserable back breaking and thankless. I worked beside illegal aliens there as a matter of fact. They were some of the hardest working fuckers I ever saw. Nobody could keep up with them. Nobody wanted to. but they kind of set the standard. At the sane time, I was juggling an imminent Iraq/Afghanistan deployment and full time college. Those were some of the worst days of my life but I digress. They closely monitored our movements with electronics in that warehouse. It wasn't a collar but they knew how fast we were moving at any given moment and they compared it to everyone else constantly. They had a rapid turnover too. When I interviewed for that job, the dude in front of me chose to wear a T-shirt with a giant middle finger flipping off anyone who happened to be sitting across from him. That was probably the appropriate interview attire in retrospect.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:48 AM

68. That was depressing and disturbing.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:39 PM

74. The West must have got it from the Japanese...

...look at life for a Canon employee:

Hurry, or the world perishes:

http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/19639/Canon+Electronics.html

Which, considering what comes next, may just so be.

Canon Camera Factory to Go Fully Automated, Phase Out Human Workers

http://singularityhub.com/2012/06/06/canon-camera-factory-to-go-fully-automated-phase-out-human-workers/

Future of Capitalism: No workers. No problems.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:30 PM

76. Contract attorneys get treated this way in NYC.

One of the worst abusers is/was Paul Weiss, a law firm that's supposedly one of the 'good guys' in labor disputes.

Unless it's their bottom line at issue.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:33 PM

77. How much more degredation and humiliation will people take before they join unions?

What have you got to lose? A job that puts a leash on you? What more do employers have to do to labor before labor strikes back? What more?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:36 PM

79. My son lives in UK

I sent him this.

He said "that is to keep them from using horsemeat."

I know it sounds horribly sarcastic.


This is really terrible and I would never work in a place like that.

guess I am an old dog.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:03 AM

86. Kick

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