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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:26 AM

 

New medal for drone pilots outranks Bronze Star

The Pentagon is creating a new high-level military medal that will recognize drone pilots and, in a controversial twist, giving it added clout by placing it above some traditional combat valor medals in the military’s “order of precedence.”

The Distinguished Warfare Medal will be awarded to pilots of unmanned aircraft, offensive cyber war experts or others who are directly involved in combat operations but who are not physically in theater and facing the physical risks that warfare historically entails.

The new medal will rank just below the Distinguished Flying Cross. It will have precedence over — and be worn on a uniform above — the Bronze Star with Valor device, a medal awarded to troops for specific heroic acts performed under fire in combat.

“This award recognizes the reality of the kind of technological warfare we are engaged in the 21st century,” Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters in Washington on Wednesday.

The new medal will be awarded for specific acts, such as the successful targeting of a particular individual at a critical time.

http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2013/02/military-new-medal-for-drone-pilots-outranks-bronze-star-021313/


Drone 'pilots'?

What kind of 'bravery' does it take to shoot people from an office?

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:33 AM

1. video gamers want the same reinforcement as actual soldiers maybe nt

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:52 AM

2. The Distinguished Service Medal outranks the Silver Star, even

and it has no combat requirement.

The precedence of medals is a bit of a mystery.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:57 AM

3. It is all about what is deemed to be more important by the top military brass

I was just a dumb grunt. Apparently anyone can muster up the courage it takes to get a medal with a V device for valor in combat but it takes real courage to fly a drone from several thousand miles away and click a button when you think you see something that might resemble what could be a suitable target.

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Response to Victor_c3 (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:18 AM

4. Oohrah fellow ground pounder

I can see it now...

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Response to AgainsttheCrown (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:32 AM

5. Thanks for the video

I'm going to have to share that with the people I know.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:46 AM

6. Reducing medals to the level of merit badges.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:40 AM

7. Looking at it, this also applies to our hackers

It's for non-combat service in non-traditional warfighting roles; people have been calling for it for a while. It's outranked by two non-combat badges, so in that sense it's nothing new.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 07:50 AM

8. Bravery?

Nah, this is just video games on a grand scale.

These are 'trophies' awarded for the highest number of kills per session. Poor schmucks growing up on Call of Duty will flock to the military in droves, I tell ya.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 07:51 AM

9. As a vet, this is TOTALLY wrong. nt.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:11 AM

10. I would have thought that a virtual kiss from the Twilight Princess would suffice..n/t

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:29 AM

11. NEXT: Purple Hearts for carpal tunnel

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Response to jsr (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:31 AM

12. Didn't Maj. Frank Burns try to get one for a shell fragment in his eye?

an EGGshell fragment.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:34 AM

13. I have two Bronze Stars, neither of which was won in an air-conditioned cubicle

I am disgusted.

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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:01 PM

16. As the VFW observes, this is terrible for morale

It slights ground troops and other combat forces unnecessarily. And combat vets who earned their awards getting shot at--and wounded--are pretty angry about it.

I have one Bronze Star with 'V' and one Purple heart, and the notion of giving a faraway joystick operator's medal precedence over on-the-ground battle awards is incomprehensible to me.

In this case, the VFW is taking a smart tack. There's virtually no chance of rescinding creation of the new medal after SecDef has announced the decision. Instead, the VFW is calling for a change in the order of precedence:

http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/2013-Articles/VFW-WANTS-NEW-MEDAL-RANKING-LOWERED/




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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:36 AM

14. Just post their High Score and send them a tshirt

It's just like some video games used to do way back in the day.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:51 AM

15. What's wrong with this picture?



Blow up a house occupied by civilians without breaking the crease in your starched uniform and then go out to lunch at Olive Garden thousands of miles away from the rubble. A few weeks later there's an award presentation.


It admittedly could be me, I did my military service from 65 - 69. I just don't think I belong in the 21st Century.

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