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http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/sc-gov-nikki-haley-named-other-woman-SC Gov. Nikki Haley Named As Other Woman In Divorce Case
By Susie Madrak
Here's Nikki, denying infidelity rumors three years ago.
I honestly don't care who's cheating with who -- unless that person sets themselves up as some kind of moral arbiter of other people's behavior. So yeah, I'm curious how much fire there is behind this smoke:
S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley is one of three other women named in a divorce lawsuit filed in Richland County, S.C. earlier this month.
According to court documents obtained exclusively by FITS, Jennifer Marchant wife of prominent S.C. State House lobbyist Larry Marchant is suing her husband for divorce on the grounds of infidelity.
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The lawsuit was filed in Richland County family court on February 6 . A preliminary hearing in the case has been scheduled for 11:00 a.m. on February 20.
Marchant submitted an affidavit in October 2010 - swearing that he and Haley had a one night stand in Salt Lake City, Utah in June 2008.
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Weve had representatives go on the record that said we were in a group setting all the time, Haley told former Columbia, S.C. radio host Keven Cohen at the time.
Other sources who went on the Salt Lake City trip have disputed Haleys claim, however.
They left the W lounge together, one of these sources confirmed to FITS, referring to a dance club located three blocks away from the Marriott hotel where the South Carolina delegation was staying.
Another source also confirmed seeing Haley and Marchant on the corner of Broadway and Southwest Temple streets in downtown Salt Lake City at around 2:25 a.m. as the pair walked back to their hotel room.
Marchants affidavit was dismissed at the time by Haleys lawyers because it was not submitted in connection with a court case. Meanwhile Haley refused to submit an affidavit attesting to her version of events.
Its up to them to prove it, Haley told WSPA TV 7 reporter Robert Kittle. Its not up to me to prove that Im telling the truth. Its up to them to prove that is true.
Nikki is famous for saying "women don't care about contraception." Au contraire, Madame Governor. I would guess that if you're running around on your hubby, you care very much about contraception!
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)babylonsister
(170,956 posts)pretty damned tired of the rethug hypocrisy that seems to be tolerated so well by some .
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)babylonsister
(170,956 posts)when a Dem is involved.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)We spend so much time and energy figuring out who went where with whom and sifting through all the specifics. We're like a bunch of adolescent children who are just discovering sex.
I guess I'd like to see a more mature approach: nail them to the wall for their hypocrisy and let the rest go.
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)That's exactly the point of bringing attention to Ms. Haley's "dalliance" - to nail her to the wall for her hypocrisy both for her Republican beliefs in general and her assinine statement about contraceptives in particular.
I could care less who sleeps with whom. But when these holier-than-thou pretentious, hypocrite Repukes proselytize to the rest of us about "morality" and "family values" when they themselves are as immoral as anyone else if not moreso (usually moreso), then they need to be brought down upon the sharp edge of their own hypocrisy and whittled to a pile of sawdust with it.
That is the entire point here, not "who slept with whom". Nobody much cares about that - it's the hypocrisy.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)caseymoz
(5,763 posts)Since they make sexual morality the cornerstone of their political platform and agenda, it's important that people know and see how their moralism works in practice. We'll never get them to stop unless they're consistently shamed about it.
The shame doesn't come from the acts themselves, but from the hypocrisy.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Why is this so damn hard for you to understand? WE don't get all in a twist about such things, they do. They're the ones who love to taught their superior morality, thus the whole Ken Starr affair.....all the while a certain Idaho senator was hiding his orientation..well, except in airport men's rooms that is. Seriously, what part of HYPOCRISY do you now understand???
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I have totally endorsed holding up the hypocrisy.
However, I have also suggested toning down the lurid discussions about the details of the affairs. That, however, is being shouted down. I guess we like talking about extramarital affairs.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)up, you were the one who brought up Starr and cigars and now you're griping about lurid discussions? Take the plank out of your own eye before trying to remove splinters from others.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Clinton never ran as a 'moral' arbiter the way every republican does today. While I understand your desire to get past this fascination with another's sexual behavior, the GOP has made sexuality a major plank in their platform...they must be called out every time someone takes a saw to that plank.
caseymoz
(5,763 posts)First, Clinton never made "family values" and things like abstinence only education the centerpiece of his policies.
Second, I never brought prosecution into it.
Third, talking about somebody's sex life doesn't bother me, and it seems the only mature thing to do when it's exactly our sex lives are what Conservatives are demanding the right to regulate, due to their righteousness. Avoid the topic, heap shame on it, and you play right into Conservative hands.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)tends to get these people elected. It's an issue.
aquart
(69,014 posts)Ask what precautions she took to protect the health of her family and the public at large. Is she SURE she is not currently infected with an STD?
Rule 1: Never play by THEIR rules.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)In the past 6 months I've been doing volunteer work as a Peer Associate for the Aids Council of NE NY. They are no longer referred to as STD's. They are more properly called STI's now. "I" as in infections.
"Infection." Sounds localized and curable. Pretty pink lipstick for some really nasty pigs.
No one's afraid of an infection. Just soak it in hot salt water.
I'll call up my dead friends and tell them not to worry. It's only an infection.
The PR genius who thought of this can go to Hell.
pull yourself together. HIV is not the same as an STI and you well know it. It is a whole lot easier to get people to take testing if it is an "infection" rather than a disease. Social stigma etc. I seriously doubt if you deal with any of your infections in hot salt water. If you can call up dead friends, then they must not be dead. I give you a piece of current information and you act as if the information came from Hell. Over the years, I've seen you write much more sensible stuff.
DFW
(54,047 posts)The rest will take care of itself. The IOKIYAR syndrome is not one of permanent duration when it comes to sex.
Republican "youthful indiscretions" are gotten away with if that youth was 40 years ago, not 4 years ago.
South Carolina supports the Republican every time EXCEPT if sex is involved--not because they are as pious as they make themselves out to be, but because the private lives of their public officials ARE expected to conform to their pious norm.
"The flag is flying high over the courthouse
The wheels of justice never stood a chance.
The judge is down at Charlie's on his launch hour
Checking out the picture show from France.
Carrying a fifth of whiskey in a dirty paper bag
Threw the ball to home but they always missed the tag.
Faded old glory hanging like a rag
Defenders Defenders on the flag."
--Bruce Hornsby ("Defenders of the Flag"
dorkulon
(5,116 posts)The point is not that they are immoral; it's that they are full of shit.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)johnnyreb
(915 posts)We need all the help we can get down hyeah.
There are plenty of indications on the street, in our history, in the backrooms, in The State Newspaper comments and so forth, that all we need is a nudge here and there.
babylonsister
(170,956 posts)Welcome to DU, and you're welcome. I live in GA now, so she irks me particularly, along with the stellar GA reps, too.
calimary
(80,693 posts)Well, I'm as Machiavellian as the next guy when it comes to stuff like this. Let's help this one get noisy! She's being touted as one of the "I Love You Wimmmmmmmmmennnnnnnnnn!" GOP bright lights for the future. I would like to see her knocked out of contention - and certainly out of the governor's mansion!
And yes, before anyone goes on about double standards and ken starr and all that - the difference in Bill Clinton's case was indeed that he NEVER held himself up as some sort of moralizing straight-arrow role-model. He never made morals one of his talking points. It never came up with him. It was the busybodies and holier-than-thou's on the CON side that did. It's ALWAYS the busybodies and holier-than-thou's who yap about morality. And they're usually among the biggest amoralists around.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Maybe if the Rs would STFU about "moral values", their lapses wouldn't be pointed out.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... avoid wallowing in the sordid details.
xilify
(17 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)This is NOT a gender issue. If you want to disagree, go ahead, but I will respond to further.
spanone
(135,627 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)John Edwards and Bill Clinton got a total pass.
trumad
(41,692 posts)This is fucking war.
cheapdate
(3,811 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Nikki Haley was one of THREE. The public has a right to know how many people were endangered by this self-indulgent carelessness.
Sometimes a spouse has no idea a spouse is cheating until an unexplained itch or rash necessitates a visit to the doctor. I knew one woman whose husband got treatment but didn't tell her so the disease he gave her was able to make her infertile.
This is not a private failing. This is a community health issue.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)Morality has been a part of religion since its inception, and that won't change.
And, in this particular case, I don't see how religion fits into the equation at all.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)To not acknowledge that the GOP has attempted to not, only make this major issue but, the absolute critical issue in which they appeal to Bible Thumping Evangelicals as grand protectors of morality To deny this is not consistent with the facts.
When they are exposed for their hypocrisy they immediately invoke that these are private matters. However, what is private about their demands to impose their religious teaching on school children ranging from creationism to abstainest sex education without any regard from the the desires of the parents. In fact this is the very tactic that they invoke in their determination to impose their moral teaching on the students when they flood school board meetings with people screaming that if their beliefs are no imposed then the kids are doomed to hell in a hand-basket. I can onlly wish that this wasn't the case.
DallasNE
(7,392 posts)And here is a recent one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014399865
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... is that really pertinent here?
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....to Americans how they should live their lives, to include the right of women to make choices about their own bodies.
The rampant hypocrisy of the GOP Tea-Nazis knows no bounds...why shouldn't we hold them to the same standards they want to dictate to us?
Bucky
(53,795 posts)Dems who say it shouldn't be an issue shouldn't call it any issue when Republicans do it. They've got plenty of their own over there to gin up the bogus moralism. Not that I approve of marital infidelity, but I disapprove of making someone else's sex life an issue even more.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I'm sure Republicans will agree to it.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)If she can use her position to promote the wrong side of women's issues, such as availability of contraception, then she damn well better be squeaky clean in her personal conduct or we can, should, and will use it against her.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)then it will stop being an issue. until then, they pounce on democrats doing it. . .something like "pots" and "kettles" and "black" and "geese" and "ganders" come into my head.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)spanone
(135,627 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...you rarely hear her name mentioned as a future "face" of the party like she was when she was first elected. Besides being a lazy and ineffective governor (kinda reminds us of a certain "pretty face" from up north...you betcha!) she's a walking soap opera. Just one more "paragon of family values"...
XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)aquart
(69,014 posts)Oh, Nikki.
On edit: Nikki's paramour's promiscuity raises a significant health issue for all the spouses involved and THIS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.
rurallib
(62,342 posts)O dear God, they must be having the vapors!
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)lots of partners -- even marrying lots of them.
Nikki should use the "When in Utah, do like a Utah-an" defense.
rurallib
(62,342 posts)maybe they got a temporary license?
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Then she could have slipped over the border to get a quick multiple marriage, do the nasty in SLC, then go back to Nevada to get it annulled.
That would work, wouldn't it?
Bucky
(53,795 posts)Or at least that's the kind of question they like to ask.
no_hypocrisy
(45,769 posts)Paladin
(28,202 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)barbtries
(28,702 posts)"I honestly don't care who's cheating with who -- unless that person sets themselves up as some kind of moral arbiter of other people's behavior."
it's the fucking hypocrisy that drives me apeshit.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Sanford, now Haley.
Stinky The Clown
(67,669 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)he was surprised, to say the least.
bucolic_frolic
(42,651 posts)Knockin' Nikki
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)TeamPooka
(24,155 posts)alp227
(31,959 posts)The "family values" ad is here http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/05/nikki-haleys-palin-approved-family-values-ad/57217/
I created that meme using ImgFlip!
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Oughtta be fun watching this play out.
Cha
(295,899 posts)"values".. What Values?
Let her parade this around when she's pumped up like Rubio.
Yavin4
(35,354 posts)This is the right's big argument against Marriage Equality, and when they violate their vows, they are hypocrites.
madinmaryland
(64,920 posts)Go to hell, Haley.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)There are a lot of South Carolina Republicans out to get Haley, for precisely the opposite reason that DUers might want her gone - she's a woman, and a non-white one at that. To them, she should be barefoot, pregnant and chained to the kitchen sink. In India. The allegations may be true, but alternatively, it could just be good ol' SC dirty politics.
1-Old-Man
(2,667 posts)nxylas
(6,440 posts)Her parents were immigrants from the Punjab, though she was born in Bamberg, SC.
JI7
(89,172 posts)the allegations out of nowhere.
VA_Jill
(9,852 posts)After all, there is a precedent with ex-gov. Mark Sanford.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)I have no problem with a vegetarian or tea-totaler or no-government libertarian or whatever but if someone is militant and h compromising in their position and is then compromised in following it, well, that raises questions. It'd be just like catching a militant gay guy in bed with a woman. Does it matter to me? I don't care who he sleeps with. But if it turns out he was the sort who called out bisexuals as being uncommitted and not letting them have any peace, the hypocrisy is the issue. Same with a vegetarian having a steak. I wouldn't care unless the same person was saying meat isn't a choice it's murder and getting in my face about their own dietary choices.
This is also why I love Ron Paul using the government to expropriate a fan site instead of resorting to free market means. Hypocrite!
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Even before she got elected, people in the know frequently mentioned she and more than one male lobbyist were doing more than making business deals.
jsabrown3
(3 posts)and their enthusiasm for the Appalachian Trail?
47of74
(18,470 posts)zorro1
(27 posts)I'm sure this makes some folks happy that an attractive woman having sex with someone other than her husband can be used to do what? Huh? You half wits leave this stuff alone already. Nothing more childish than trying to shame someone for being sexual from either side of the political spectrum. Leave it alone!
Squaredeal
(382 posts)IOKIYR