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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:27 PM

Heard it first on DU? Thom or BIG ED are you listening?


I was reading something today about Medicare and drug costs. Then latter I was reading an op-ed on a legal case not related. Something about getting around a law you can't get changed.

Light bulb. Medicare can't negotiate with drug companies over costs by law. Why not have Medicare buy from the Veteran's Administration THAT CAN negotiate? Let the VA have 5% for saving us all billions of $?

Thoughts?

OS

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Reply Heard it first on DU? Thom or BIG ED are you listening? (Original post)
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 OP
Suich Feb 2013 #1
Scuba Feb 2013 #2
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #14
Scuba Feb 2013 #15
lunatica Feb 2013 #28
Scuba Feb 2013 #30
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #8
ReRe Feb 2013 #22
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #9
Scuba Feb 2013 #3
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #13
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #27
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #29
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #31
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #32
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #33
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #34
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #35
BlueStreak Feb 2013 #36
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #37
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #4
Vincardog Feb 2013 #5
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #6
jaysunb Feb 2013 #7
CTyankee Feb 2013 #11
jaysunb Feb 2013 #12
busterbrown Feb 2013 #10
rosesaylavee Feb 2013 #16
Teamster Jeff Feb 2013 #17
Lifelong Protester Feb 2013 #18
mtasselin Feb 2013 #19
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #20
rurallib Feb 2013 #21
WillyT Feb 2013 #23
gtar100 Feb 2013 #24
ReRe Feb 2013 #25
patrice Feb 2013 #26

Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:29 PM

1. What law says Medicare can't negotiate with drug companies?

Never heard that before...



TIA!

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Response to Suich (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:30 PM

2. You gotta thank Dim Sun for that one.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:33 PM

14. Isnt is "Dim Son". nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:35 PM

15. Oooops.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:09 AM

28. You can go back and edit it

There is no time limit on editing your posts anymore.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #28)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:34 AM

30. My laziness knows no bounds.

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Response to Suich (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:38 PM

8. Medicare Part D...

It's buried somewhere in there.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:56 PM

22. I'll never forget....

... up in the middle of the night. Watching it all unfurl on C-Span. It was a 15 minute vote. and when 15 minutes was up, it wasn't. I don't know how long it took, as the Republicans were in the cloak room twisting arms. But when it was all over, the Republicons won. No negotiations on drug prices, like the VA does it. Medicare Part D...

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Response to Suich (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:39 PM

9. Allow Medicare to negotiate for cheaper drug prices


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/promise/73/allow-medicare-to-negotiate-for-cheaper-drug-price/

Updates:
Action unlikely before end of administration

Updated: Wednesday, April 25th, 2012 | By Martha M. Hamilton

As a candidate, Barack Obama promised to repeal a prohibition on Medicare negotiating directly with drug companies over prices for Medicare recipients. But it's widely viewed as unlikely to before the end of the current Obama administration.

"It's hard to tell you that anything will happen prior to the election this year. It's going to be a difficult year to get any kind of legislation passed," said David Certner, legislative policy director for AARP.

"It has not happened and isn't likely to happen," said Gail Wilensky, who directed the Medicare and Medicaid programs from 1990 to 1992 under President George H.W. Bush.

"The Obama administration only has so much control over that, but I doubt Congress is going to pass it," said Lee Goldberg, vice president of health policy for the non partisan National Academy of Social Insurance.

FULL story at link.

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Response to Omaha Steve (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:31 PM

3. Brilliant!!! Why aren't you in Congress?

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Response to Scuba (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:32 PM

13. No. It is the same issue either way.

It is prohibited by law.

If Medicare could work through VA, they could negotiate the prices on their own.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:01 AM

27. How do we know that?


Link perhaps?

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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:21 AM

29. Medicare Part D bans the Medicare system from being involved at all.

It says that only the PRIVATE insurance companies that actually implement Part D are able to negotiate. And because each insurer is much smaller than the Medicare system at large, they have much less bargaining power.

The point is that the "government" isn't allowed to be involved at all, not directly, and not indirectly by working with the VA.

Having the Medicare agency negotiate these prices would have two cost-reducing benefits. First, it would lower the prices for the drugs themselves. Secondly it would lower the overhead carried by the Part D insurers.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 09:45 AM

31. So the VA is already in violation?


Why not float the balloon anyway? I'd love to see the drug companies explain why something is 4-10 times a higher price than the VA pays in a court room.

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