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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:07 PM

Lobbyists threaten to pull donors from Republicans who don't support "right to work" laws

Yes it's Missouri but you can bet this is going on nationwide at the hands of ALEC et al:

Corporate lobbyists want to pass so-called “right to work” laws nationwide to weaken unions and crush organized labor. In Missouri, Republican lawmakers recently held a strategy session with a number of right-wing special interest groups where they laid out their plan to pass such an anti-union law.

At one point, Steve Hunter, a former Missouri lawmaker who took up work as a lobbyist after leaving public service, told the Republicans that they would lose donors if they don’t take up a radical anti-union bill: “If you don’t take on the fights, and these guys that are giving money? I mean, this is just all basic 101. You’re going to start losing donors.”

Another speaker promises that if lawmakers push for this bill, “we want to make sure your backs are covered when it comes time for re-election. And that’s where we come in. To have the groundwork laid for you. So your backs can be covered.”



MORE (including recording):

http://boldprogressives.org/secret-audio-captures-donors-threatening-missouri-republicans-if-they-dont-embrace-anti-union-bill

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Reply Lobbyists threaten to pull donors from Republicans who don't support "right to work" laws (Original post)
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 OP
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #1
Glitterati Feb 2013 #3
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #4
Glitterati Feb 2013 #5
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #6
Glitterati Feb 2013 #7
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #10
Glitterati Feb 2013 #11
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #12
Glitterati Feb 2013 #13
Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2013 #15
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #9
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #2
chervilant Feb 2013 #8
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #14

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:12 PM

1. "Right to Work." Wow, Frank Luntz really earns his pay, doesn't he!

When will the Dems find someone this Orwellian? Hate to stoop to their level, but marketing is very, very important.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:45 PM

3. That's what they've called it forever

It's really the right to be fired for anything law.


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Response to Glitterati (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:58 PM

4. I know, but I'll bet big bucks Luntz coined it.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:00 PM

5. Since it was passed in 1947 in Georgia

I think it pre-dates Luntz.

Still sucks, but I don't think it was his idea.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:03 PM

6. I had no idea! Well, they had their own Luntz back then, I guess.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:06 PM

7. Taft-Hartley

Before Congress passed the Taft–Hartley Act over President Harry S. Truman's veto in 1947, unions and employers covered by the National Labor Relations Act could lawfully agree to a closed shop, in which employees at unionized workplaces must be members of the union as a condition of employment. Before the Taft-Hartley amendments, an employee who ceased being a member of the union for whatever reason, from failure to pay dues to expulsion from the union as an internal disciplinary punishment, could also be fired even if the employee did not violate any of the employer's rules.

The Taft–Hartley Act outlawed the closed shop. The union shop rule, which required all new employees to join the union after a minimum period after their hire, is also illegal. Under the law, it is illegal for any employer to force an employee to join a union.

A similar arrangement to the union shop is the agency shop, under which employees must pay the equivalent of union dues, but need not formally join such union.

Section 14(b) of the Taft–Hartley Act goes further and authorizes individual states (but not local governments, such as cities or counties) to outlaw the union shop and agency shop for employees working in their jurisdictions. Under the open shop rule, an employee cannot be compelled to join or pay the equivalent of dues to a union, nor can the employee be fired if he joins the union. In other words, the employee has the right to work for a willing employer, regardless of whether or not he is a member or financial contributor to such a union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:47 PM

10. I see. But, more accurately they would have called it "Right of Business to F*ck with Unions."

The champions of right to work laws are not supporters of workers’ rights. The National Right to Work Committee was founded in 1954 by a group of ultra-conservative businessmen, including Whitford Blakeney, one of the best known anti-labor lawyers of his time, whose career included representing J.P. Stevens textile company, whose campaign against unionization was found by the National Labor Relations Board to include “excessive and egregious unfair labor practices”. To this day, the NRTWC functions as an arm of organized business. It did not support civil rights laws protecting workers from racial and gender discrimination. It does not support increasing protection against retaliation for workers who try to organize. It does not support protecting workers’ lives by improving enforcement of occupational safety and health laws. In fact, the Committee’s leadership works closely with those who oppose improving the rights of workers.

Advocates of right to work laws claim that such laws protect workers’ right to freedom of association by preventing them from being forced to join unions against their will. This is not true. Workers already have this right under the National Labor Relations Act. Section 7 of the Act prohibits discrimination against any employee because they have chosen to join or not join a union. No new state law is needed to protect workers in this area. Right to work laws allow workers to accept the benefits of union membership without sharing the cost. This is a right no one should have, the right to get something for nothing and make others pay the bill.

http://workrights.us/?products=right-to-work-laws

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:34 PM

11. I won't debate that

Right to Works sucks. Period.

All anyone has to do is look at the results in states like Georgia. RTW is nothing more than union busting and wage reduction. Period.

My grandfather organized the union in a steel plant in KY. We're a union family, yet my brother agrees with these fools, even though they shipped his entire plant offshore to avoid paying union wages and he lost a good job after 20+ years.

I don't get it; I'll never understand how these republicans entice people like my brother to vote against their own self interest.

It's mind boggling.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:48 PM

12. I think the answer to the successful enticement is that the Rs are very good liars and they have

had the money to fund a large scale, wide-reaching. largely uncountered advertising campaign for their lies.

Why the Left Has No Answer to the Right-Wing Lie Machine

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:46 PM

13. I'm not sure I can agree

Michigan certainly was countered and they passed it anyway. There's tons of evidence that RTW hurts workers, but no one could stop it in Michigan.

The bottom line is simple - we've allowed the unions to become powerless. Sure, they had a hand in it by assuming it would go on forever and not being there for workers like my brother, but so did folks like Bill Clinton and Zell Miller. When you have Democrats siding with corporations like Walmart over the unions, you lose.

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Response to Glitterati (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 04:41 PM

15. Hello again. Those things are definitely true, but did you check out the article? I think it

strongly supports my case that the problems you mention were allowed to develop, in large part, because of the ubiquitous RightWing Propaganda Machine that has sold a basic idea: liberal bad, conservative good. So successful is their propaganda that they have even managed to get people to turn against things they like and believe in Simply by by calling them liberal.

Admittedly, I just skimmed it this time, but read it thoroughly in the past and remember it that way. There's another article I read a couple of years ago that I just can't seem to find again, but it did a great job of explaining this and it talked about how donors on the right are more than willing to donate money for non-specific, non-policy-tied messaging, but that on the left donors are far less willing to do so. And it makes the case that this has damaged progressives massively.

Wish I could find that darn article.

Thanks for the discussion.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:46 PM

9. Nope, goes back to 1947...as law

And the early 1940s as propaganda. I promise you, Luntz was not alive then.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:14 PM

2. If this is how they feel then they should not complain when these people

come to government and ask for what the Constitution promises them

These are evil people and deserve to be rounded up and put in camps

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:41 PM

8. Right to Work

That's what allowed a malicious, mendacious man to "terminate" me the day before our Christmas break (I could tell he was enjoying himself).

I called the Labor Board and was told I would have to litigate if I wanted to address his deceit. The rep said he could fire me "for any reason or no reason at all."

Meanwhile, how do you tell prospective employers that you've been wrongfully terminated?

Right to Work, my ass!

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:49 PM

14. Don't forget the corporate alliance ALEC support "right to work" as it weakens unions

 

and worker's rights to organize to demand pay and benefits.

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