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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:14 PM

What are police like in your area?

Where-ever you are.

Here in Sheboygan most of them are good cops, a few though are lazy.

The last "tactical situation" we had here in Sheboygan, cops saw two gang members enter the front of the house, they surround it, tear gas the shit out of the interior, seems no one noticed the two gangbangers had left via the back door long before the cops surrounded the house.

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Reply What are police like in your area? (Original post)
Archae Feb 2013 OP
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #1
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #4
Squinch Feb 2013 #9
Nevernose Feb 2013 #2
MADem Feb 2013 #3
russspeakeasy Feb 2013 #5
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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:15 PM

1. Mixed bag in NYC.

Fat, skinny, lazy, hardworking, dishonest, honest, black, brown, white, short, tall, male, female.

Mixed bag, just like the rest of humanity.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:28 PM

4. +1

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:36 PM

9. A guy was once shooting into a courtyard where I was walking. A couple of NYC cops body shielded me

into a safe doorway. I don't think they were wearing any kind of body armor, but they did it anyway.

I have to say I like NYC cops.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:18 PM

2. The school cops are mostly okay

The city cops in Vegas are corrupt, abusive, and/or incompetent. And I used to be a probation officer and DA's paper-pusher. Very few of them make me feel safer.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:22 PM

3. Barney Fifes with pompous attitudes.

If anything bad happens, the state police need to be called in.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:29 PM

5. Central Floriduh; really, really bad.

It is what I imagined Mississippi to be like in the 50's.
Redneck crackers....I'm an old white guy with a lot of military MP experience; I know posers when I see them; right down to their mirrored sun glasses.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:31 PM

6. Mostly not around.

I do see the Fire Depts. a lot, mostly for their EMT work. Since the freeway is really busy here, it would seem that you would see a lot of Hwy patrol, but I haven't seen one in 13 years. When I lived in LA, they were more visable than most of the cop agencies.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:31 PM

7. Friendly, communicative, community minded, visible.

On Halloween they handed out those glow loop thingies to kids they drove by.

Every borough event, they set up booths featuring police related subjects and let the kids sit in their cars to light the lights.

This Pennslvania smallish town police force is a far cry from the cold cops back in Dekalb County, Georgia.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:36 PM

8. Pretty good, actually, but I live in the suburbs & there's not much drama (that I'm aware of).

*knock on wood*

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 PM

10. Generally OK, but very class conscious. nt

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 PM

11. There's not much serious crime, but they love writing tickets. Nt

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 PM

12. In the small town I live near, they're involved, polite, helpful, friendly and utterly professional.

They're my friends, too. I know them and trust them.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 PM

13. I've never had a bad experience with the Anchorage police

And have had several positive interactions. I think they do a great job.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 PM

14. Bullies.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:44 PM

15. I hope like hell I never have to find out.

(from first hand experience, that is)

10 metro police officers face corruption charges
Friday, Feb. 15, 2013 <-Note the date!

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/10-metro-police-officers-face-corruption-charges/nWM4j/

By Steve Visser

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Ten metro Atlanta law officers are in police custody, accused of using their guns, badges and authority to facilitate drug deals under orders of a street gang.

An FBI SWAT team arrested the current and former cops Tuesday for taking payoffs — some as low as $700 — to protect cocaine deals taking place in crowded shopping centers and school parking lots. Five alleged accomplices also were arrested.

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The arrested officers came from wide swath of law agencies: Atlanta, Stone Mountain, Forest Park and the DeKalb County police and Sheriff’s Office. Officers from MARTA and a contract agent for the Federal Protective Service also were arrested.

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At least some officers appeared willing to kill to protect their gang employers — although no violence was reported. Just before a deal with a new buyer Jan. 30, DeKalb police Officer Dorian Williams told confederate Shannon Bass that wounding was not an option. “I gotta (expletive) kill him, I just can’t shoot him,” Williams said in a secretly recorded conversation, according to the federal affidavit. Bass was among the accused accomplices arrested.


Sidney Dorsey Confesses To Derwin Brown Murder

(That should read ex-SHERIFF Sidney Dorsey confesses to Sheriff-Elect Derwin Brown Murder)

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/sidney-dorsey-confesses-to-derwin-brown-murder/nFCmR/
Aug. 16, 2007
ATLANTA —
Sidney Dorsey has confessed to the murder of DeKalb County sheriff-elect Derwin Brown. DeKalb County officials announced the confession at a news conference Thursday morning.

Dorsey told (District Attorney Gwen Keyes) Fleming he wrote a note telling former sheriff's deputy Patrick Cuffy to kill his rival.

Two other men -- Melvin Walker and David Ramsey -- were sentenced in November 2005 to life in federal prison for their part in the murder-for-hire killing. The two, who previously were acquitted in a state trial in 2002, were convicted of federal conspiracy charges related to Brown's slaying.

Three Atlanta Police Officers Sentenced for Planting Evidence and Killing a 92-Year-Old Grandmother in Botched Raid
Johnathan Turley

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/03/08/three-atlanta-police-officers-sentenced-for-planting-evidence-and-killing-a-92-year-old-grandmother-in-botched-raid/

Three former Atlanta police officers have been sentenced to prison in one of the most disturbing recent cases of police abuse. Former officers — Jason Smith, Gregg Junnier and Arthur Tesler — were sentenced to ten to three years for their roles in the death of 92-year-old Kathryn Johnston.

The officers were accused of an astonishing range of criminal acts leading to Johnson’s death. It began with the planting on drugs on a dealer named Fabian Sheats. They wanted to bust Sheats to help meet an informal quota for such arrests. When he came up clean, they planted pot that they had found earlier. They then forced him to give them an address of a house were they would buy drugs.

Sheats appears to have randomly pointed out 933 Neal St., the home of Johnston, and told them to look for a guy named “Sam.” However, they could not find a snitch to buy the drugs and departmental rules prevented them from using Sheats. So, they fabricated information on a warrant and got approval for a “no knock” entry.

Since it took about two minutes to bust (sic) down the door on Johnston’s house and the old lady had time to grab a gun and fire once — wildly missing the officers. They responded with 39 bullets — hitting and killing Johnston five or six times — though strangely the police department could not tell which officer actually killed Johnston. The police fire also wounded Junnier and two other officers. When they did not find any drugs, the officers are accused of planting drugs on the house and claiming that the informant had purchased drugs at their request from the house.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:49 PM

16. Great

A couple go to my church. Got one speeding ticket from one of them. Deserved it and she was very professional about it, and I was very respectful. Filed two police reports over the years with them. They were always very helpful and courteous.

I do notice how they stand and act when they are in my home. They always appear on guard. Good training. I am very thankful for their presence. Of course I do have the "right" skin color. I can't speak to if I was an African American for example.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:50 PM

17. Excellent in my burg of Newton MA.

Boston, next door, has generally good cops as well. IIRC there was no bullshit when Occupy occupied Boston.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:51 PM

18. They really have nothing to do..

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:52 PM

19. The Police are Revenue driven....

 

"Revenue Driven"... which means that the police officer is expected by his employer to generate at least the amount of his/her salary in tickets.

Every Police Officer in the country has what they call a "Monthly Activity Report".

If an officer fails to reach the expected "activity Level".. you can be sure they will be called into the Sergeants office for counseling.

As always... MONEY.. is at the root of Police performance. Protecting the citizens is the very last item on the agenda.



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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:52 PM

20. Middle class union guys earning a living.

Nice enough if people are nice enough to them. Not as nice if people heap abuse on them. So, ordinary people.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:46 AM

24. Yes.. Police Officers are ordinary workers...

 

If people are nice to them.. there is less chance they will escalate.

Our draconian drug laws, (the privatization of prisons to benefit the Bankers)... has skewed the conversation.

We have thousands of people in Jail.. that do not need to be there.. because they are a product of a failed War On Drugs.

The USA needs to determine who is in jail and why....( a simple task you would think.. ) .

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Response to lib2DaBone (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:28 AM

31. Ugh. i agree. And so do a lot

of police officers. I was LE myself, although I was a Fed. Nobody wants to spend their time putting young kids in jail, changing the course of their lives permanently. And young police officers are just like other young people. They'd like to kick back on their off-duty hours too.

I know of a town in MS where they have a clothing factory. It makes prison uniforms. There's a prison right next to it. They send kids from the schools in the town to that prison. Now they've started firing the regular factory workers and use slave labor from the prison to work in the factory, making prison uniforms for all these private prisons all over the country. And the people in the town are losing their jobs. Since it's Mississippi, there wasn't a union. So there's nothing they can do about it. That factory was the largest single employer in town. Most of the employees were lower class white people, a solid Republican voting block in that state. Rather ironic that their own political ideology has done them out of their jobs.

But devastating that young African American youths are being railroaded into prison on trumped up charges, on anything from truancy to drugs, and winding up as a slave labor force. I know the Southern Poverty Law Center was working on the case. It's part of the school to prison pipeline. Luckily, in most places it's not as bad as that. And luckily, even in Mississippi it's an unusual situation.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:21 AM

21. "It's Chinatown, Jake". . .

I'm in South California. It's a wild mix of crazy quality and quality crazy. Each encounter can be a nerve racking chance at Russian roulette.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:26 AM

22. undercover mostly.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:36 AM

23. They're pretty good here in Oregon

they seem a bit overworked, a bit tired of all the bad stuff all the time (lots of petty crime, theft and vandalism, drunks, domestic stuff), but generally good guys. There seems to be some kind of shaved-head style going on, which makes no sense in snowy winters, and no sense in sunny summers, but there's worse things.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:54 AM

25. Horrible.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:56 AM

26. the last guy they shot was holding a flashlight or a wrench

can't remember which. it was a block from my house.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:09 AM

27. They shoot first and ask questions later

They once shot a woman armed with a bag of potato chips.

The cops here in Prince George's County scare me. The county has multiple lawsuits of police brutality. I'm more scared of the cops than the criminals. God help you if you are mistaken for a criminal.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:14 AM

28. Racist assholes in this coastal Los Angeles 'burb. The community will be

paying big time in lawsuits because of their shooting of a surfer dude's truck in their chaotic attempt to get Dorner.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:14 AM

29. Fullerton, California. Don't think I need to say anything further.

The cops here are out of control - they beat and killed an unarmed homeless guy. The fall out of which caused a recall of the mayor and the resignation of the police chief. They will pull you over for any damn near any - even the most minor of minor infractions. They arrest people at the bars left and right. You pretty much take your chances here.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:27 AM

30. In my current area? Not that bad. And unarmed. (But then I'm in the UK.)

In my former area: racist rednecks, for the most part (this would be in Georgia, just barely inside the Atlanta metro area).

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:42 AM

32. Jerks.

I was waiting on a friend and I thought I saw her car, saw it wasn't her and walked back to the sidewalk. A police cruiser came over and motioned me to approach. Asked me why I was making "suspicious" movements in the parking lot. Told me there was prostitution and "other things" going on in the area. Took my driving license and wrote down all my information. Humiliating to me. When I was so upset and scrambling to get my ID out of my purse he saw my cigarettes and said, "Don't you know smoking's bad for your health?" Yeah, no shit, Sherlocke Holmes! What is really bad for my health is to be harassed by a damn cop when I am I a public place waiting to meet a friend for lunch and am harassed and embarrassed for no good reason! I'm 55 years old! Do I really look like a prostitute or a car thief? I think not. Condescending, nasty and uptight police officer.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:44 AM

33. Now that I have put my driving around in beater cars smoking pot days far behind me...

can't really say except they have always been really good to us.

We smelled what we thought was Natural Gas leaking and the police and fire department got her within five minutes to make sure we weren't in dire need. MrsWCGreen feel down one day and landed on her chin and the Ambulance came along wth a police car. That's about it.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:56 AM

34. much better..

In the 80's cops were killing people for wielding tree stakes and trowels around here.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:39 AM

36. In rural E Tennessee, I'd describe them as ...

Dumber than dirt.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:07 AM

37. They seem to be ok in Boston.

However, I am a pretty white woman, so I guess I would not be the best judge of it. They are always nice to me, but others might have a different opinion.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:20 AM

38. like cops everywhere I suspect

I try to keep as low of a profile as I possibly can. Stay home mostly

many here are still gung-ho on pot which sucks.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:21 AM

39. They are fine here

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:26 AM

40. In the DC area. Had a young state trooper change my flat tire on I95 a few yrs. ago.

 

He told me I reminded him of his mother (I live in NoVA, this happened in MD - afterwards I sent a letter of appreciation to his supervisor who responded to me with thanks). A few weeks ago thought I had a break in - another young cop came immediately, was super polite and concerned.

But while I'd never had anything positive at best, professional at worst, interactions with individual cops I certainly don't have a romanticized view of police departments. As a government institution I don't trust the police any more than I trust any other government institution and I realize that if I were not white and living in one of the richest counties in America my experiences may not have been the same.

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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:27 AM

41. Incompetent wannabe DEA agents. nt

 

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:41 AM

42. Generally pompous asses, getting rich on paid OT details.

The other night one purposely crashed his car into a relative's at highway speed, now he's back on paid leave pending an investigation. Same cop left the scene of an accident a while back (allegedly drunk) and tried to have his teenage kid take the blame.

I don't trust these fuckers.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:58 AM

43. Apparently they lie about Chris Brown doing community service

Richmnd VA police chief resigns

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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:04 AM

44. I work with a lot of cops

I work for department of treasury and a lot of the officers that work in my facility are former NYC officers and such. Most of them are decent guys and most aren't as jaded as I would have expected them to be given some of their experiences in the past. I'd trust the cops I work with to do the right thing.

I haven't had any experiences with cops in Newburgh, NY but they have a real crime problem there. 2 years ago it was listed as the murder capital of NY state. I think a lot of it has to do with the proximity to NYC and the gentrification that is happening down there. It is easier for gangs and such to run their drug operations out of some of the towns north of NYC and just hop on the train to get to the city than to do it out of the city. Many of the small towns around here don't have the same resources to deal with the gangs that a big city has. There have been some large gang busts in Newburgh in the last couple of years.

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