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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:24 PM

Professor "Bans Students From Using Fox News As A Source: It ‘Makes Me Cringe’"

Professor Bans Students From Using Fox News As A Source: It ‘Makes Me Cringe’

by Noah Rothman at Mediate

http://www.mediaite.com/online/professor-bans-students-from-using-fox-news-as-a-source-it-makes-me-cringe/

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While it’s not shocking that a journalism professor would ban students from citing news sources that are not credible, it is eyebrow-raising that one of those sources would be Fox News. In a copy of a syllabus obtained by Fox, Stephanie Wolfe, a visiting professor of journalism at West Liberty University in West Virginia, banned her students from citing Fox because she finds it cringe-worthy.

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Reply Professor "Bans Students From Using Fox News As A Source: It ‘Makes Me Cringe’" (Original post)
applegrove Feb 2013 OP
NightWatcher Feb 2013 #1
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #2
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #5
B Stieg Feb 2013 #24
calimary Feb 2013 #26
SwankyXomb Feb 2013 #29
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #36
Wait Wut Feb 2013 #3
Politicalboi Feb 2013 #6
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #4
Hard Assets Feb 2013 #7
Lint Head Feb 2013 #8
malaise Feb 2013 #9
BainsBane Feb 2013 #10
MrSlayer Feb 2013 #11
Zoeisright Feb 2013 #12
Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #13
ReRe Feb 2013 #14
Curmudgeoness Feb 2013 #15
radiclib Feb 2013 #22
Heathen57 Feb 2013 #25
Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #30
louslobbs Feb 2013 #37
Marrah_G Feb 2013 #16
ArnoldLayne Feb 2013 #17
dlwickham Feb 2013 #35
hughee99 Feb 2013 #18
Brainstormy Feb 2013 #31
Initech Feb 2013 #19
MrScorpio Feb 2013 #20
dlwickham Feb 2013 #34
spinbaby Feb 2013 #40
Skittles Feb 2013 #21
bbgrunt Feb 2013 #23
Cha Feb 2013 #27
Turbineguy Feb 2013 #28
HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #32
dlwickham Feb 2013 #33
southern_belle Feb 2013 #38
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #39
whistler162 Feb 2013 #41

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:26 PM

1. Forget "cringe-worthy", its often incorrect

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:27 PM

2. For the national news I fully agree

Local affiliates can do a good job, or bad job, regardless of parent organization.

My local fox, ironically, did the best job with Occupy, for example.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:33 PM

5. Local Fox stations can be very good.

Here in NYC they are not, but some places have good coverage.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:56 PM

24. FOX LA sucks

just saying'

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:02 PM

26. Welcome to DU, B Stieg!

Glad you're here! I don't watch them, myself. But I'm sure the local apple doesn't fall far from the network tree! I'm kinda hooked on MSNBC, and Rachel Maddow just gets better and better. For that matter, so does Lawrence O'Donnell.

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:14 PM

29. That's nothing new though

KTTV has always sucked news-wise.

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:40 PM

36. Good day New York is like watching fox and friends.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:27 PM

3. Meh...

...while I agree with the Professor, I'd just take points off. If a student is sourcing FOX, he/she is obviously not fact-checking any of their work.

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:41 PM

6. That is the better way to go

Fox may have accidentally told the truth to one story, but having real facts is what counts. When they get enough fails, maybe they will open their eyes.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:27 PM

4. Considering the study that showed people that don't watch the news are more informed...

 

Than those who watch FOX News... it should be every professor's policy.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:42 PM

7. I applaud on that decision made by the professor.

 

Right wing news is not a credible source.

My father still listen to Fox News bullshit, despite my efforts ASKING him not to do so around my son.

One of my old professor used Drudge Report for something (I don't remember what). I told him it's bullshit. And asked him to find a credible source, and he admitted that he could not find one.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:50 PM

8. It's outright propaganda. It promoted treasonous war criminals and murderers into the White House.

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:53 PM

9. More important than all of that

They do not believe in empirical evidence. The professor is correct.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:02 PM

10. It's not news

Why should he allow it?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:04 PM

11. Why is it "eyebrow raising"?

 

Anyone with even a half a brain knows Fox is nothing more than propaganda and cannot be taken seriously.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:17 PM

12. All Fux Noise does is lie.

Anyone who cites that piece of shit as any type of source obviously is not doing any work. She's right to ban it.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:26 PM

13. I favor banning it as a source on DU also.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:53 PM

14. She said "cringe-worthy"....

... because she was being nice.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:56 PM

15. I might be the only one here who disagrees with this.

I would not ban any source, but I would counter that with requiring the students to substantiate any research using Fox (or any other source) with research from several other sources. I think that this would make any student who believes what Fox is spewing see how little truth there is in their "news" stories. It could be a teaching experience.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:36 PM

22. I agree.

Let them do the research to discover the truth. Otherwise, you just give assholes like David Horowitz an opening.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:00 PM

25. I think you have a good point

When the in-laws (Faux watchers) bring up something the Hannity says, I will immediately use the internet to look up sources that disprove what they have said.

It is sad that I need to carry a computer around just to disprove their garbage. by forcing students to back up (or not) what they quote from Fox might eventually turn some minds around.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:15 PM

30. Agreed

and it's anathema to journalism IMO. Even if a source is questionable it is incumbent on journalists to draw the distinctions otherwise how does the truth really come out?

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:07 PM

37. What you said above, that totally works for me, excellent reply. n/t

Lou

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:57 PM

16. No credible teacher should accept them as a source

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:06 PM

17. I'll be damn i never heard about this. I live about

4 miles away from West Liberty. My 2 sisters Girlfriend and BIL went to College there. Good for West Lib.

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Response to ArnoldLayne (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:29 PM

35. it was in the Wheeling paper this morning

which is even more biased than Faux

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:08 PM

18. What do they do if the story is related to something someone said on Faux?

Politicians go on faux news fairly often. If someone says something that merits inclusion in one's classwork (for example, Boehner outlines his plans for some piece of legislation), how can you not use that interview on Faux as a source? I imagine some exceptions will still have to be made.

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Response to hughee99 (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:16 PM

31. I agree

Sometimes the source of erroneous, or biased, information can support a point. Particularly if it's an illustration of how an idea or meme becomes generally accepted or "conventional wisdom." As a former college professor I went to great pains to try to teach students that all sources aren't equally credible and especially that internet "authorities" weren't all credible. Still, I question the notion of categorically eliminating a major "news" (ok, choke) network from source material. Discounting that source, depending on how it was used, should be the teacher's responsibility, but this approach is a little too close too censorship for me. I understand the impulse and the original idea but I wouldn't be comfortable with it.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:08 PM

19. Fox News' mere existence makes me cringe.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:25 PM

20. Is West Liberty Univ. affiliated with THE Liberty Univ.?

If so, then this is phenomenal.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:29 PM

34. no

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:34 PM

40. No it's in a town called West Liberty

Northern panhandle of West Virginia. Nice little town.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:34 PM

21. THANK YOU

it makes me cringe too

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:47 PM

23. wolfe cringes at fox! nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:05 PM

27. It's Lying Ass Propaganda. Why should anyone serious use it as

a "news" source.

It's much Worse than "cringe worthy".

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:11 PM

28. That's wrong.

But then again, I would give them a "write a paper on bullshit" for an assignment. They'd have to go to Fox for that one.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:20 PM

32. I disagree

I think the professor should allow FOX as a source, provided the student also cite 3 sources backing up FOX. Let the student do a little research, and maybe they'll learn something. Also, the professor could make an assignment on propaganda techniques...

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:28 PM

33. the president of West Liberty is a conservative republican

I doubt the good professor lasts too long, if she's not already gone

he went on Faux yesterday I think to "discuss" this

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:21 PM

38. FINALLY!!!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:03 PM

39. Oh, dear. Death threats from freepers to begin in 3....2....1....

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:38 PM

41. Worse still she also banned.....

The Onion as a credible news source!

Fire her!

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