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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:47 PM

1. Could you tweak it so that the awful word in question isn't in the title?

Many thanks

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:53 PM

3. why?

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:53 PM

5. Workplace filters and other issues.

Also, it's hurtful to some African-Americans to ever see that word in print.

Understand that your intent is the best, but I've run into situations where it's caused inadvertent trouble.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:55 PM

7. I'm African American

and I have more contempt for the people saying it rather than the word.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:57 PM

8. I can respect that. Obviously I'm not going to lecture you on it.

I've just had other African-Americans indicate over the years that they would prefer to never see that word in print.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:00 PM

13. Not lecturing? That would be a first...

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:02 PM

16. Please. I don't know what color anyone is on here

unless they tell me.

I made a polite request based on my experiences with people's reaction to that word. Obviously, not all people feel that way.

bqhatevwr

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:12 PM

17. Good for you, CatWoman! To remove it, would be whitewashing over their dirt.

Ugliness like this need's to have a bright spotlight put on it to expose it.

Just as Fox and other neo-cons repeat lies til they're believed by their base; the more we openly show this vile racism and bigotry, the more people will realize how wrong it is. Unfortunately, that's what it will take for that to happen.

I never get used to this kind of thing and always feel such a painful pang in my heart over it. Sometime I'll tell the story of how at age 14, I consciously realized my best friend was a different color than me. Pointed out by a bigot. Today is not a good day for me to do that.

Anyway, CatWoman, I admire you for what you said.

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Response to Isoldeblue (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:46 PM

35. Exactly.

Sad a low life like this teabagger exists but if they do we need to know about them.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:33 PM

19. Bravo. The word itself has no power and should be used in the context you did.

Making a deal of an appropriate use of the word detracts from the vulgarness of the inappropriate use.

IMO, and I am white, it is condescending to a degree to say n-word. It's like it absolves guilt.

It's the intent that is vulgar and not the word.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:27 PM

27. Well said.

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:24 PM

50. contempt

ignorance can be educated , but for stupid , there is no cure . These folks are beyond stupid . just plain hateful and dumb .

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:18 PM

22. It's a painful word

After reading it I can't focus on the article you posted.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:28 PM

29. Thank You!!!

I hate the sight of the word.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:55 PM

43. Would "the n-word" be different?

The word is still in your mind. How do those particular glyphs affect you so strongly?

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #43)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:56 PM

44. it does

I suppose because I was taught to never use that word, so it shocks me when people do.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #22)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:45 PM

59. you have issues

don't you?

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #59)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:16 PM

72. yes, with all forms of bigotry.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:50 PM

2. We have some real low-life scum in this country, and no correlation to wealth ... just plain

low-life scum.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:53 PM

4. Don't change the thread title, despite what other posters' have asked...

That type of despicable ugliness SHOULD be exposed far and wide. To use the N word in this regard just exposes the hate that lurks in their ugly, pathetic little hearts (and that's operating under the assumption they have a heart to begin with).

Recommended.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:54 PM

6. agreed

it's not as if I called him that.....

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:59 PM

10. +++

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:59 PM

11. Your answer in this post tops anything else:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2382310

The contrairian DUer demanding you change the title is just that - contrarian for contrary's sake.

Rock on, my Friend!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:01 PM

15. ....

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:57 PM

45. gt "demanded" no such thing.. he asked politely and was fine when

it was not done. "Contrairian" DUer? just because he had personal experiences that made him think to ask? Really?

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Response to Cha (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:11 PM

47. There's a history there...

You and I have been here long enough that the history shouldn't escape either of us.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #47)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:16 PM

48. You seem like you have a personal vendetta. Your describing it as

"demanding" is untrue.

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Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:23 PM

49. "Personal vendetta"? Heehee!



Seriously?



No, CW was making a salient point, and DU's resident contrarian (well, at least one one several) came and tried to poop on the thread.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #49)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:35 PM

55. No he didn't. Not at all.

"Contrarian"? Just because someone has a different opinion than yours? That's what this message board is all about.

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:57 PM

9. +++ 1,000 +++ n/t

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:00 PM

12. agreed

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:00 PM

14. +1000 n/t

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:48 PM

60. Seeing the word spelled out shocked me.

And I'm caucasian.

People NEED to be shocked. What the teabaggers did was shockingly disgusting, and people need to SEE IT and be shocked by it. Expose the hate and ugliness far and wide, indeed!

Bake

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:15 PM

18. Just when I think the extreme right-wingers have sunk as low as they can get, this happens. nt.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:57 PM

20. They make it easier for normal people by doing so.

They might as well shout, "I'm an ignorant asshole, and I don't care who knows it!".

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:17 PM

21. Any video?

Posted this link and people are calling BS because there is no video or other substantiation of the claim. I can understand their skepticism since it was the President and the pool reporters should have video of it. There is video of the President inside the school but none outside?

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Response to emperor_bob (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:24 PM

25. Where did you post this link?

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:33 PM

54. My Twitter and Facebook

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Response to emperor_bob (Reply #54)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:39 PM

58. Thank you. Welcome to DU. Did you get your question answered?

Not everything is caught on video.

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Response to emperor_bob (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:25 PM

26. I have not seen a video on this, but not everything is captured on video.

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Response to emperor_bob (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:58 PM

65. In the comments, people are making a convincing case that this story is bullshit...

Including a person who was there. Please see my post #64.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:21 PM

23. the most disrespected President E V E R .

K&R..

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Response to spanone (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:30 PM

52. I agree with this assessment

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:23 PM

24. At the end of the day Barack Obama is still the POTUS and the bystanders are still

bigoted idiots.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:27 PM

28. That is beyond disgusting

I bet they thought President Obama has never heard that word before, that his wife hasn't heard it, his daughters. That they thought they were reminding him of his 'place'

His 'place' is in the White House assholes, his place is leading and representing Americans, including loathsome bigots. You're too late racists. He's the leader we the people elected. Your name calling is hurtful, if that was your intent. You got a little attention if that was what you wanted, but at the end of the day, you got nothin'


I they thought somehow, in there thought somehow in their fucked up minds that they could bring him down, instead they'll watch him rise above. Far above, and they have to know on a visceral level if nothing else, how small and petty and mean and useless they really are.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:41 PM

33. Nicely put.

Even if the story isn't true.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:50 PM

61. I'm reading the book about his mom

she molded him. she taught him to be patient, understanding and respectful. and to turn the other cheek.

he was constantly taunted by Indonesian kids who hurled that epithet at him.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:29 PM

30. FYI

A lot of people are saying that Kos thread was started by a troll.

Read the comments.

I report, you decide.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:36 PM

32. Hmmm... thanks for the heads up

I did a search and nothing has turned up on this in the news. Very curious...

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:48 PM

37. After reading some of the comments, the OP does seem like he/she is trolling. n/t

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:55 PM

63. well

having lived here the past 15 or so years, I have to say I can't find it very hard not to believe.

You won't believe some of the shit people have had the nerve to say to my face.

You should read some of the blogs (political AND non political) in the AJC some time....

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #63)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:44 PM

74. The protesters in the picture are NOT Teabaggers. They are environmentalists...

The diary is a FAKE started by a troll to make liberals look like fools. The diarists admits that they weren't even there and would update with verification from there "on the scene" contacts. This still has not been done.

I understand that it the story seems plausible but unless it is verified, both DK and DU do not look reliable.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:31 PM

31. What a classy bunch of teabillies!

This is not a shock to me, since I see this all the time regarding Obama....although saying it to his face is more than I would have expected, since most of these people are only tough in their own groups.

This is as low as a pregnant snake's ass.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:43 PM

34. Jesus Christ...












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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:48 PM

36. i hope whoever shouted the bad words at the president got THE LIVING CRAP beat out of them

slug, slap, throw rotten stinking tomatoes and rip their clothes right off their bodies. make them run someplace stark naked!!!!!!!!!


for a starter.... someone else can throw them in jail

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:48 PM

38. They should have arrested...

...for hate speech. IMHO. Respectfully.

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Response to ReRe (Reply #38)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:03 PM

69. Hate speech is not illegal

It's just the price you pay for the first amendment.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:50 PM

39. One never gets over being called that

The last time someone yelled that at me, I was 7 and he was an adult, my dad whooped his ass and my mom dragged his wife down the stairs by her hair. They both said the assault charges were worth it. Even now, 23 years later I wished I could have gotten at least one kick in. But I digress, it's 2013 not 1913.

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Response to TxDemChem (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:26 PM

51. That fuckface has made their own hell with their own hatred...

I would've been with your Mom and Dad.

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Response to TxDemChem (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:59 PM

67. long time ago, when my daughter was very young

I came home on leave and took her and my niece to the pier at Virginia Beach. The backdrop of the pier were several hotels.

I got them ice cream and we were just hanging out, when all of a sudden some white guy came out on the balcony several stories up and yelled "NIGGER".

I never felt so helpless in all my life......

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #67)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:15 PM

71. It is absolutely startling

What as a parent can we do? While I appreciate what my parents did, I could never see myself going to that extreme. We almost had a case with my daughter a couple of years ago where she got into an argument with some kid, and because she's half Mexican she got called a wetback n****r. She said she took care of it by telling the other kid he was a n****r because he was ignorant and he was just confused. He transferred out of their school shortly thereafter. I never told her of my experience until then, but I think she handled it maturely. Mind you, she was barely 6. I still hope to see the day when that word is expelled from our language, but living in Texas, it may be a while.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:51 PM

40. Jezus. Outside an elementary school no less.

It makes me weep, thinking about kids, especially African American kids who get to see President Obama as a role model they can relate to and have to witness THAT. That total lack of respect, even when he's achieved something as significant as becoming President and still, that shit. Ugh.

Those people need to be shamed to the point where they really have to face the ugliness in their hearts.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:52 PM

41. That word says more about the person who uses it

than the person it's used to describe. It's too bad it still has so much power to hurt, when really all it does is expose the speaker for who s/he is.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:53 PM

42. Would be nice if someone recorded this.

 

Because without a recording, it didn't happen and these asshole baggers will continue to get cover from the media.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:00 PM

46. Reading this, I have an almost overwhelming urge to cry. My heart breaks.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:37 PM

57. Your heart shouldn't need to break.

 

For it's breaking over the ever-present cruelty that prevails wherever ignorance is abundant. The right shuns higher education. Education has a way of uplifting humanity, so now they degrade it as superfluous and wasteful. We are living among a hateful population like I've never before seen in my life.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #46)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:38 PM

73. Check out the actual photographs of the President's visit to Decatur

http://www.11alive.com/news/photo-gallery.aspx?storyid=277644

The "big" crowd photos are near the Rec Ctr. "downtown", ( in connection with Decatur, we must use big and downtown advisedly) and you see some mostly college age environmental protesters mixed in with the rest of the crowd. I promise you they all voted for Obama, every one of them, whether they are holding up signs in support of green jobs and against the Keystone pipeline or not, or whether they are old white guys dressed in suits or not.

The last batch of people seen outside are in the very crunchy-granola multi ethnic neighborhood of Oakhurst where the preschool is. All shiny happy smiling faces. Oakhurst is so with-it, it has its own wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oakhurst,_Georgia
Oakhurst is an eclectic, liberal-minded community, typical of intown Atlanta. It has a diverse mix of African Americans, white residents, senior citizens, singles, young couples, young families, empty nesters, and a large gay community. According to the 2000 Census, slightly fewer than 5,000 people lived in Oakhurst.
TV crews were in both the Rec Ctr and preschool locations as you can see from the still photos - taken by tv crews. If there was any stink, they'd be on it. The young people in the crowds all have camera phones and they'd have been on it too.

This is very liberal country, Nolabear. Decatur is a small town sandwiched between two universities, swallowed up inside Atlanta. John Lewis is our Congressman. I repeat: John Lewis. If he even had a Republican opponent in the last election, nobody caught his name.

I wasn't there so I can't promise you it didn't happen, but unless you see a picture or video of the alleged incident, you really should not believe it happened and get upset over it. It's just some BS posted by a 4 post troll (literally) at Daily Kos and just not worth it.

If you browse the actual photographs in the gallery and look well, I'm sure you'll feel much better. Especially about the future.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:31 PM

53. This is all They Have Now

Snarl, foam at the mouth, shout racist words/sayings and hope their ignorance drowns out progress and acceptance in this country.

Fcuk 'em.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:36 PM

56. It sounds like another member of republican base.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:50 PM

62. OMG! I hope Secret Service hauled them away!

I can't even imagine how someone could be so despicable... And to the President of the United States, no less!

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:55 PM

64. It is looking more and more that the DKos diarist is lying...

Other Dkos members who were there say it never happened and the protesters weren't Teabaggers but climate protesters who were convivial on nonthreatening.


Um, okay. So ... the detective work isn't that

hard. If you follow the link to the picture, you can read the URL in your browser's Location field. it is this:

www.11alive.com/images/640/360/2/assetpool/photogallery/277644/prezvisit_29 .jpg

Which is pretty obviously some sort of TV station website, and which has pretty clearly labeled this as the 29th photo in a series related to the President's visit.

You can then go directly to the main website, www.11alive.com, and follow the links to the original gallery, where you will see the photo captioned thusly:

People run up Sycamore Street to greet President Obama's motorcade (Julie Wolfe, 11Alive News)


You can furthermore move back in forth in the gallery and find another photo that shows that the people in the photo are primarily left-wing critics of the President. Which, by the way, is exactly what you'd think just from the way their appearance.

If anything unpleasant did happen, it is not documented in this particular news report.



From the comments

I was there, and this is a gross misrepresentation

The crowd was upbeat, a great vibe, no evidence whatsoever of baggers or people hurling racial slurs. The only protesters I saw were some amusing folks dressed up in elephant costumes who were there to protest the Ringling Bros./Barnum & Bailey Circus and their treatment of pachyderms.


Nearly sixteen hours after it first appeared...

...this suspicious and unsourced diary now has 1,000 Facebook likes and 32 tips despite the fact its author, who has a breif record of incendiary posts, has not graced us with the update that he promised.




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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #64)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:08 PM

70. This has been posted here and commented on purporting that it is very likely contrived so why do

we keep reacting to this as factually having happened?

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:59 PM

66. Thats a high point, not nearly an "all time low", for them

Shouting racial terms at the president in front of little kids is about the best thing they have to offer. The rest of their playbook is even worse.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:02 PM

68. I don't care what people say

The Tea Bag people are racists. Plain and simple.

They can sugar coat it complaining about an "overspending government" for their reason to protest

But the fact remains their little party started as soon as Obama was elected before he had a chance to enact his policies.

They didn't form when Bush was spending billions on the wars and the billions spent on the Bush Tax cuts and plunging the country into a big deficit. They didn't complain when Cheney said the "deficit didn't matter." No siree. They formed when Obama was elected. They didn't like the black man in office.

They are racists through and through. And I don't mind telling it to their face. I've done it on some of their FaceBook pages. They get angry but that's their problem. It's their people shouting out racist remarks.

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Response to CatWoman (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:49 PM

75. Thank you for posting this

And including the ugly word uncensored. 25 years ago I might have been the guy shouting that word. Today I winced when I saw it spelled out in print here. It serves as a reminder just how far this ol white country boy has come over those years.

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