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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:50 PM

Damn that Harry Reid!

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Damn that @HarryReid! He got 40+ #GOP to go on record as blocking the nomination of a #GOP Defense Secretary, the wimp!


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Reply Damn that Harry Reid! (Original post)
bigtree Feb 2013 OP
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #1
bigtree Feb 2013 #2
TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #3
bigtree Feb 2013 #4
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #6
TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #9
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #11
Enrique Feb 2013 #5
bigtree Feb 2013 #7
Bake Feb 2013 #8
TexasProgresive Feb 2013 #10
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #13
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #12
bigtree Feb 2013 #14
Cha Feb 2013 #15

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:56 PM

1. I'm still wondering exactly what this "agreement" was that he reached with the GOP a few weeks ago

So he reaches an agreement with the GOP that will supposedly curtail their use of the filibuster, but suddenly we get the first ever filibuster of a cabinet secretary nominee?

How the hell is that supposed to happen? The agreement he forged with the GOP isn't worth the sheet of toilet paper I used to wipe my bum this morning.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:04 PM

2. well, maybe now

. . . the Democrats who kept us from a larger roll-back - like the 'talking filibuster' - will get off of their objections and give him the 51 votes he needs to roll the changes through. Without that support from critical numbers in his own party, it's just pointless to expect Reid to put anything up for a vote.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:39 PM

3. +51%

Did Reid have the support of all the dem Senators? for the kind of reform many here wanted?

Maybe Sam Rayburn or LBJ could've twisted arms enough to get it through but I doubt it. There are Democrats who feel powerful in thwarting the majority of their own party. Just remember how they treated Mr. Carter.

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:42 PM

4. remember

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL) told reporters that the Merkley-Udall “full talking filibuster” approach likely won’t happen because it “does not have 51 votes.” But he said a more modest package that Reid has put forth to McConnell, aimed at shifting the burden from a governing majority to an obstructing minority, would pass . . .

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:58 PM

6. We don't know because Sen Reid didn't put it to a vote

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:23 PM

9. No way to prove it

But I bet that he knew that the votes were not there. So if put to a vote it would've been a failure.
edited to correct moranic syntax- why do these things stand out after posting!!!

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:07 PM

11. True, we don't know. We also don't know who needs to be replaced, but we do know...

 

That Reid lied to his voters and the party and pretty much stabbed everyone in the back. So I would put him at the top of my list. Fortunately, most of my family lives in Nevada, and I will be SURE to remind them come the next election and I have written to Senator Reid to tell him as much.

Personally, and this is just my opinion, but I would support a recall. Harry has done enough to screw the voters, it's time for him to go home.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:54 PM

5. if Reid had done filibuster reform

Lindsey Graham and the other would have had to do a real filibuster, not just go "on record". Instead, Harry cut a deal that made it easier for them to do this.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:59 PM

7. Reid went forward with what Democrats were willing to vote for

. . . how the fuck he's supposed to be able to do more than that escapes me.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:08 PM

8. His title is Senate Majority LEADER

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As in, LEADER. He might try showing some LEADERSHIP.

Fact is, he didn't want filibuster reform either.

Bake

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Response to Bake (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:29 PM

10. I guess we need our own Tom "the hammer" Delay

It's Senate Majority leader no "dear leader" who must be obeyed.

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Response to Bake (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:10 PM

13. And once elected he said as much.

 

The reality is that all of this "He didn't have the votes" stuff is a guess. They don't know what Reid had or didn't have.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:08 PM

12. He can bring it to a vote and make those opposed go on RECORD n/t

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:34 PM

14. that's so not 'lying'

Everyone knows republicans are unanimously against the types of changes you say you want; especially with Democrats in the majority. Who needs a vote to show that?

Of course, they tried to strip the Senate of the rules when they needed to overcome OUR OWN use of the filibuster.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:16 AM

15. Well, I Rec this and if you do,

bigtree.. that's two!

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