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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:33 PM

Why was Gray Davis recalled?

Why was Gray Davis recalled in 2003 as Gov. of CA, and who and why in the hell would someone vote for Shwarzenegger?

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Reply Why was Gray Davis recalled? (Original post)
Dpm12 Feb 2013 OP
Taverner Feb 2013 #1
Tikki Feb 2013 #3
libodem Feb 2013 #4
Taverner Feb 2013 #13
libodem Feb 2013 #17
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #11
Octafish Feb 2013 #12
City Lights Feb 2013 #15
libodem Feb 2013 #2
MrMickeysMom Feb 2013 #5
IggleDoer Feb 2013 #6
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #10
Tikki Feb 2013 #16
onehandle Feb 2013 #7
ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #8
PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #19
ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #20
PufPuf23 Feb 2013 #24
roody Feb 2013 #9
Johonny Feb 2013 #29
JVS Feb 2013 #14
CountAllVotes Feb 2013 #18
Bradical79 Feb 2013 #21
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #25
bigtree Feb 2013 #22
Wellstone ruled Feb 2013 #23
OmahaBlueDog Feb 2013 #26
Initech Feb 2013 #27
no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #28
BlueToTheBone Feb 2013 #30
Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2013 #31

Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:34 PM

1. One word: Enron

 

He was planning on charging them for crimes after they gouged California

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:43 PM

3. That is the right answer.

Plus some thought arnul would somehow wrestle up freebies for Californians.

schwarzenegger was getting busy, elsewhere.


Tikki

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:43 PM

4. Great minds

I swear I didn't see yours first. Ya think we are on to something?

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Response to libodem (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:51 PM

13. LOL

 

We tapped into the collective unconscious!

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Response to Taverner (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:04 PM

17. I'm down with the woo

That wizard smilie turns out to be a dunce. My substitute woo woo will have to do.

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:50 PM

11. +1000

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:51 PM

12. Got it in one, Taverner.

Arnold was up to his shaved eyebrows in ENRON.

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Response to Taverner (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:52 PM

15. Yup.

End of thread...

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:40 PM

2. Politics

And ENRON. ENRON, remember the immediate rolling brownouts, the day after Bush was elected.

They ran the electricity up and down the state and charged for it both ways. They bankrupted the state and dined on the bones.

That's what I think. I'll go get my tin foil hat. Attractive, yes?

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Response to libodem (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:45 PM

5. History is good...

You have to repeat it often these days...

The people ... they forget too easily.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:45 PM

6. Because he failed to balance the budget

So we got Ahhhnold instead. He did a heck of a job.

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Response to IggleDoer (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:50 PM

10. actually Darryl Issa started the official recall paperwork because he thought he would win.

Ahnold screwed it up for him

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Response to IggleDoer (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:54 PM

16. arnul, like all previous State repugs left us in a mess...


Heck of a job screwing us, among others, up.


Tikki

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:47 PM

7. Because 'It would be awesome to have The Terminator as our Governor.'

Actual statement on a local news program by a person on the street asked about the Gropenfuhrer.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:47 PM

8. Things were bad and he had not shown any visible leadership

That worked for the average voter coupled with the star appeal of the Gropenator.

Lots of speculation about the "real" reasons. Those posts need to go to CT with the other woo.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:09 PM

19. The financial crisis and the likelihood of prosecution of Enron is not woo nor CT

To state that is a cheap shot post, ignorant of history, and stifles conversation.

That is like saying the Enron scandal in general and Cheney's Energy Task Force is woo.

There was much $$$ of special interests behind the recall and the star power of Schwartzenager/Shriver was attractive to the low info voter, the same stinking thinking that got California Reagan as Governor and later POTUS.

I was no big fan of Davis but the energy crisis then was manufactured and caused great financial harm to California.

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Response to PufPuf23 (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:30 PM

20. Yes it is...the typical voter who voted did not know or care about those things

so have little to nothing to do with by Davis was booted, which is the central thrust of the thread.

Davis lived up to his name and was a poor choice by the party for Gov. Americans expect some charisma and leadership which was lacking in Davis.

Branding the majority of the elecotrate as low information voters is what Limbaugh does...

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:49 PM

24. The full situation of the recall was not known until after the recall.

I am and have been a relatively informed voter (albeit always D except some local votes and non-votes for specific Ds) but did not have much understanding of the Gray Davis recall except GOP tactics to undermine and remove a Democratic Governor. The full extent of the Enron corruption was not known at the time of the special election.

Limbaugh creates low information or rather misinformed voters. All politics has a degree of bait and switch and corruption unfortunately.

With hindsight, I do not think Davis would have been recalled by the voters of California.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:49 PM

9. Because people are stupid.

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Response to roody (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:08 PM

29. pretty much

including Issa who help orchestrate the whole thing and was left as big a loser as everyone else. The backward voting process was set up to basically guarantee Davis would lose.

There was the big energy company screw and Bush Co. not helping California at all. There were budget problems. The 2/3 majority made it impossible for Davis to deal with modern taxation problems. But it pretty much it happened because people were incredible stupid and turned the election into a big celebrity show Funny enough an actor was not able to turn the states finances around and left the office even more unpopular than the guy whose job he stole. You'd think a person would have to show real lack of leadership or major corruption to lose a recall, but not here in California. Heck even Walker won his recall because the people thought the off year election without facing real criminal charges was off base, even people that didn't support him. That is vastly more normal than what happened in California.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:52 PM

14. Wasn't it something to do with people pissed off about an increase in DMV fees?

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Response to JVS (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:05 PM

18. Ahnuld promised to lower DMV fees

And he did just that.

I believe it has been revoked again and now people have to pay for the tags on their car(s) in full every year rather than the rolled back rate.

It mattered not much to me but a lot of idiots out there voted for Ahnuld for this reason alone.



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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:33 PM

21. watch Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room

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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:58 PM

25. Great minds think alike

That film sums the whole thing up nicely.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:34 PM

22. because republicans could

. . . that's their entire rational for the war they're waging against Americans

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:49 PM

23. Pete Wilson was one of the big movers behind this

debacle. Davies got caught with his lack luster PR department,and the wealthy folks wanted a Rethug controlled Legislature for redistricting. It was all about politics baby. Notice how Prop 13 played into this,this is how the Rethugs plant time bombs in state governments.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:59 PM

26. By the way, check your sig line for spelling

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:02 PM

27. Darrell Issa was crying that his party didn't win.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:07 PM

28. Because enough voters in California thought it would be more fun to have an action hero

(sorta) actor be governor than a career politician. They had so much fun with a B-Movie actor (Reagan) as governor, they thought they'd try it again.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:23 PM

30. Enron and Diebold made The Boobengroper govenor of our state.

He was in the process of suing Enron for 9 Billion dollars and he was recalled with the help of Diebold and Riverside county.

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Response to Dpm12 (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:27 PM

31. Because the strongest emotion he elicited in even the most partisan Democrat was...

near total indifference.

He was a cynical loner who thought he could launch himself to the national scene from the governorship. Nobody really cared either way and the general public got caught up in a circus.

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