Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:40 PM
WillyT (45,485 posts)
Elizabeth Warren Embarrasses Hapless Bank Regulators At First Hearing (VIDEO) - HuffPo
Elizabeth Warren Embarrasses Hapless Bank Regulators At First Hearing (VIDEO)
Ryan Grim - HufPo Posted: 02/14/2013 5:14 pm EST | Updated: 02/14/2013 5:35 pm EST <snip> WASHINGTON -- Bank regulators got a sense Thursday of how their lives will be slightly different now that Elizabeth Warren sits on a Senate committee overseeing their agencies. At her first Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee hearing, Warren questioned top regulators from the alphabet soup that is the nation's financial regulatory structure: the FDIC, SEC, OCC, CFPB, CFTC, Fed and Treasury. The Democratic senator from Massachusetts had a straightforward question for them: When was the last time you took a Wall Street bank to trial? It was a harder question than it seemed. "We do not have to bring people to trial," Thomas Curry, head of the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, assured Warren, declaring that his agency had secured a large number of "consent orders," or settlements.
"I appreciate that you say you don't have to bring them to trial. My question is, when did you bring them to trial?" she responded. "We have not had to do it as a practical matter to achieve our supervisory goals," Curry offered. Warner turned to Elisse Walter, chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, who said that the agency weighs how much it can extract from a bank without taking it to court against the cost of going to trial. "I appreciate that. That's what everybody does," said Warren, a former Harvard law professor. "Can you identify the last time when you took the Wall Street banks to trial?" "I will have to get back to you with specific information," Walter said as the audience tittered. <snip> More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/elizabeth-warren-bank-regulators_n_2688998.html
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:42 PM
ananda (12,477 posts)
2. Whoa!
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Good for her!
We need more legislators like Warren! |
Response to ananda (Reply #2)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:43 PM
colbertforpresident (134 posts)
24. For sure
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yes we do need more like her.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:48 PM
freckleface (52 posts)
3. New sheriff in town, y'all!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:48 PM
likesmountains 52 (2,877 posts)
4. Great clip, but could not help noticing all of the bottled water with their labels
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all facing the cameras. Is there some kind of bottled water supplier was going on?
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Response to likesmountains 52 (Reply #4)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
RC (21,598 posts)
12. That is our Royalty there.
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They have people that are paid to get heartburn over the least little thing out of place. That is why the water bottles are lined up that way.
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Response to likesmountains 52 (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:42 AM
Larry Ogg (1,399 posts)
63. This portion of Diss the Senate dog and pony show is brought to you by...
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:50 PM
LonePirate (1,642 posts)
5. Love her! I wish she had been in the Senate as the mess unfolded in 2007-2009
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At least she is wasting no time putting those agencies on notice. Almost makes me wish I lived in MA so I could vote for her.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:51 PM
think (2,254 posts)
6. Now we're cooking with gas! K&R!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:51 PM
Safetykitten (3,663 posts)
7. I LOVE HER!
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:54 PM
sheshe2 (4,733 posts)
8. She is A Force to be Reckoned with!
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My Senator from Mass. Go Senator Warren!
Thank you, WillyT |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:55 PM
napi21 (39,476 posts)
9. Thannk you Mssachesetts for electing the most effective senator the Dems have!
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I think we all knew Liz was going to retain her independant, tough, and fearless demeanor after she got to Washigton, as most of the MEN do not! Hooray for Liz! May she serve a vey very long position in theSenate!
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Response to napi21 (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:55 AM
CTyankee (34,997 posts)
64. YES! Thank goddess for Elizabeth! Long overdue...
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Response to napi21 (Reply #9)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:05 AM
Left Coast2020 (1,482 posts)
103. Yes. She could be the Chip Kelly of the Banking Committee
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Get the crooks, listen to the testimony, get them deposed, and then bring charges--all in a short period of time--so to speak.
In other words, she needs a touchdown against the scumbags who brought this economy to its knees. I use Chip Kelly as example because thats was his MO: score quickly and often. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:57 PM
Liberal_Dog (8,004 posts)
10. Oh Yeah!!
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K & R.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
whatchamacallit (7,797 posts)
11. bannedfromkos does not approve
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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:27 PM
R. Daneel Olivaw (2,928 posts)
108. Who from Kos?
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:00 PM
Sekhmets Daughter (6,995 posts)
13. I think she may still have some campaign debt...
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I think I'm going to have to donate. She's awesome.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:03 PM
Firebrand Gary (3,313 posts)
14. Willy, thank you for posting this.
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Watching this video earlier today I could not help but fall in love all over again with Elizabeth Warren. The elegant way she came across in making her point, I thought was so remarkable and classy. We couldn't hope for a better contrast than Senator Warren and Senator Cruz.
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Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:13 AM
vlyons (345 posts)
62. Alas Ted Cruz is my senator
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At first, I thought was an ambitious hot dog. Now I KNOW that he's a vicious rabid cur dog. How would you like to do business with this man?
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Response to vlyons (Reply #62)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:17 PM
Firebrand Gary (3,313 posts)
104. I am so sorry for your situation. =(
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Just repeat after me "Texas Bluification", "Texas Bluification", "Texas Bluification"... #Itgetsbluer
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:16 PM
trublu992 (155 posts)
15. Can we please clone her?
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she needs to be in the House as well as a regulator in the SEC and adviser to Pres That's all
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:21 PM
Chalco (853 posts)
16. I love this woman more than I can say. nt
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:22 PM
Berlum (3,667 posts)
17. Thank you for standing up for the American people, Senator Warren
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Response to Berlum (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:57 PM
joeunderdog (2,539 posts)
28. "Too BIG to Fail has become Too BIG to Trial."
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WOW. Wall St. has a new Public Enemy#1.
She talks like us, not a politician. She's fucking incredible. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:23 PM
meow2u3 (13,852 posts)
18. Sen. Elizabeth Warren: a bankster's worst nightmare
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:28 PM
dhill926 (1,826 posts)
20. Fantastic!!!
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K & R....
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:32 PM
wildbilln864 (10,501 posts)
21. awesome! k&r!
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Someone with some spine!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:34 PM
Hotler (3,672 posts)
22. Gee! Just think how if over four years ago...
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President Obama called Eric Holder into his office and said "I don't care if you have to arrest the CEO's on Wall St. for jaywalking, you get them before a grand jury. " Things would be today. Instead we got the President going on Sixty Minutes and saying Wall St. did nothing illegal.
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Response to Hotler (Reply #22)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:15 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,399 posts)
31. And that they're smart businesspeople.
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And most of his staff and cabinet come from Wall Street.
And Dimon and Blankfein are regulars at the White House. And... |
Response to Hotler (Reply #22)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:27 PM
bvar22 (29,497 posts)
86. He didn't just say they did nothing illegal.
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He said they are entitled to their obscene bonuses!
"We can't begrudge them their wealth." "They are just savvy businessmen." "Its the Free market." "Look at all the baseball players." --- President Obama defending the Wall Street Bonuses |
Response to bvar22 (Reply #86)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:25 PM
frylock (19,035 posts)
95. look at all the baseball players wrecking the economy..
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what a stupid remark. thank you for treating us like idiots, mr. Harvard law man sir.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:39 PM
Rider3 (486 posts)
23. Amazing woman!
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So admired! Proud to have voted for her!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:49 PM
forestpath (2,050 posts)
25. Wow...such a rarity to see a Democrat actually like a Democrat anymore!
Response to forestpath (Reply #25)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:14 AM
dreamnightwind (1,449 posts)
49. +1
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Great to see she's giving them a little hell.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:51 PM
joeunderdog (2,539 posts)
26. "we correct deficiencies"
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Yeah, I'm sure a homeless, penniless victim of banks who institutionally BREAK banking LAWS loves to hear that this is called a "deficiency." Sick.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:54 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,339 posts)
27. "We don't have to bring people to trial to achieve our supervisory goal."
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You do now, you asshole.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:08 PM
reformist2 (4,051 posts)
29. If big banking corporations are people, I hope some of them get the death penalty.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:11 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,399 posts)
30. My God! It's like she's channeling President Obama!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:27 PM
Euphoria (105 posts)
32. Sorry, but I think it's the other way
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...around.
President Obama is now, maybe/sometimes, channeling Senator Warren! |
Response to Euphoria (Reply #32)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:55 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,399 posts)
38. I was being sarcastic.
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Sorry, too dry!
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #38)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:57 AM
Larry Ogg (1,399 posts)
66. Please use the sarcasm tag Manny...
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Obama's idol worshipers, might take you seriously.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #38)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
Euphoria (105 posts)
72. Ah, sorry. Should've figured it out
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because you, Manny, pretty much always get it right.
Dry martini anyone? |
Response to Euphoria (Reply #72)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:18 AM
KansDem (24,316 posts)
74. Okay if I stop by after 5pm?
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Response to KansDem (Reply #74)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:30 PM
Euphoria (105 posts)
83. Only if you bring the olives
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and I don't do any flavored martinis. But hey, that blue martini looks a lot like Obama-blue, so maybe I'll consider.
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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:43 PM
mountain grammy (1,577 posts)
36. More like FDR.
Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #30)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:36 PM
ProSense (98,076 posts)
84. Imagine if she
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was head of the CFPB.
Elizabeth Warren grills banking regulators at first hearing
<...> Warren ousted Republican Sen. Scott Brown in November in a hard-fought campaign. She was President Barack Obama's first pick in 2011 to head up the government's newly established Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an entity the former Harvard University law professor and attorney helped create. But Republicans in Washington essentially killed her nomination, citing her record of taking on big banks and Wall Street. That opposition helped boost Warren's reputation and led Democrats nationwide to embrace her decision to run for U.S. Senate. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/elizabeth-warren-grills-banking-regulators-first-hearing-161535327--politics.html Things worked out great. She is in the right role at the right time. |
Response to ProSense (Reply #84)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:01 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,399 posts)
85. Thank goodness
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that it was Obama's plan that she end up in the Senate Banking Committee, channeling him.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:37 PM
dorksied (346 posts)
33. Fantastic. I cannot WAIT til she runs for POTUS
Response to dorksied (Reply #33)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:59 PM
abelenkpe (7,109 posts)
39. Me too! :) nt
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:38 PM
onestepforward (3,087 posts)
34. Awesome! n/t
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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:41 PM
mountain grammy (1,577 posts)
35. President Elizabeth Warren, 2016, and America has a chance.
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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:47 PM
lonestarnot (71,133 posts)
37. Bazing Senator Warren. I love you!
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Last edited Thu Feb 14, 2013, 10:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Will she run for President?
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:02 PM
Le Taz Hot (14,421 posts)
40. If we don't put this woman in the White House
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this country is irredeemable. Could we have 99 more Senators just like her, please?
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #40)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:18 AM
rhett o rick (26,615 posts)
77. I'd really be interested to know how much financial help she got from the DSCC
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as compared to the Blue Dogs. I know she got a lot of financial help from outside the Party from groups like moveon, PCCC, DFA, etc.
My point is, I would be surprised if the DSCC is particularly interested in cloning Sen Warren. |
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #77)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:34 AM
Le Taz Hot (14,421 posts)
78. I'm sure Elizabeth Warren wouldn't exactly
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be the DSCC's/DNC's pick for a presidential candidate. You'll hear time and again how she's "unelectable." If/When she runs it will have to be a grassroots candidacy. But I'm convinced she could win. Not only the nomination but the presidency. She's just too common sense and speaks "regular folks." She's the real thing and I think that comes across, and not just to Democrats. I think she'd bring in people that don't normally vote. I think she could bring in moderate Republicans.
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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #78)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:51 PM
rhett o rick (26,615 posts)
88. The problem she faces is that she is way to progressive for the party machine.
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The elite overlords would definitely not allow it. I dont believe she would be where she is without help from outside the party structure.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:07 PM
Iwillnevergiveup (5,805 posts)
41. And sometimes
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it was better for a bank to fold rather than go to trial. Cynical is the word that comes to mind along with greedy, of course.
So wonderful to see this video on the same day Ted Kennedy's rant on increasing the minimum wage was resurrected. Some great folks have come out of Massachusetts. Huge K&R |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:08 PM
DeSwiss (17,171 posts)
42. K&R
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Big Banks Are Told to Review Their Own Foreclosures
NYT - DealB%k By JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG and BEN PROTESS February 12, 2013 Washington is seeking help from an unlikely group in its effort to distribute billions of dollars to struggling homeowners in foreclosure: the same banks accused of abusing homeowners with shoddy foreclosure practices. MORE - Even when you win an inning, the game is still rigged......
My recommendation for new banking regulators: ![]() |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:24 PM
BlueStreak (3,745 posts)
43. YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Finally we have a Senator who isn't afraid to ask the most basic questions.
And what isn't clear from that clip is that settlements are paid by the institutions, and they are basically pocket change. Trials can include felony charges with the real possibility of jail time for the people who committed these crimes. For these assholes to brush that off is really astounding. |
Response to BlueStreak (Reply #43)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:11 PM
GiveMeFreedom (921 posts)
82. You are half right
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Last edited Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:12 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) And what isn't clear from that clip is that settlements are paid by the institutions, and they are basically pocket change. Pardon me, not to interrupt, but they are also using the money they stole to pay us back with. I think that completes the equation. Thanks for the post. edit:title |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:30 PM
hay rick (3,481 posts)
44. Make an example.
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Well done. Elizabeth Warren prefaces her question by suggesting that if a big bank expects that the penalty for bad behavior will be a consent decree and a fine that can be paid from a portion of the proceeds from their bad behavior- then they will have very little incentive to refrain from bad behavior. She states the obvious, but that makes the follow up question (when was the last time you took a big bank to TRIAL?) devastating when the answer is "never" or "don't know."
I thought it was hilarious that Curry, from OCC, was the first one to speak up and the first one to fall on the punji sticks. A discussion of his agency's handling of the recent Independent Foreclosure Review here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525602 Yves Smith weighs in on the settlement here: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/occ-compounds-botched-foreclosure-review-process-with-barmy-plan-for-distributing-peanuts.html Warren rightly points out that if a party (any government regulatory agency, for example) is unwilling to go to trial, they have reduced leverage in negotiations. The recent OCC settlement is a poster child for this phenomenon. Here's what Smith has to say about the OCC's pretense that the settlement they got was good for homeowners: Just focus on the cash portion, which is $3.3 billion across the ten servicers in the settlement. The other forms of relief, paralleling the state attorney general/Federal settlement, either aren’t worth much (writing off deficiency judgments) or are for things the banks were inclined to do anyhow.
495,000 complaint letters were filed. The estimates of serious harm from the whistleblowers at the Bank of America site in Tampa Bay ranged from 10% to 80%. The average was 33%, and the estimates also clustered around 30% to 40%. So we’ll use 30%... ... You get $18.75 billion. Let’s say maybe the temps were too generous and their estimate is 1/3 too high. You still get $12.5 billion, nearly four times the amount for the banks to divvy up. And you’d have some less large payouts for the people not seriously harmed. If you would have qualified for a mod but the bank never processed your application, or were denied a mod incorrectly, that’s a $15,000 award. The folks who were processing mod complaints say they saw another 30% to 40% instances of less serious harm. So if you assume a $15,000 payout for another 20% (that’s conservative, the real number is probably closer to 30%), you get another $1.5 billion. $14 billion, which is a conservative estimate of what the banks should have been required to cough up, is more than four times the only part that the OCC got that really matters, hard dollar payments to borrowers that suffered real losses. No wonder the banks are perfectly happy to pay out $2 billion to consultants who made a mess of things. Those madcap consultant were as clever as foxes. But hey, one quarter of a fair settlement is better than no settlement at all. Elizabeth draws the obvious conclusion- we need to make an example of someone or we will never get fair settlement agreements or discourage banks from engaging in bad behavior. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:48 PM
MannyGoldstein (21,399 posts)
45. Every time I watch that video it gets better.
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Brava!
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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:59 PM
caledesi (11,736 posts)
46. Thanks WillyT! nt
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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:46 AM
progressoid (27,267 posts)
47. We need more like her!
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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:11 AM
longship (17,573 posts)
48. "Too big to fail has become too big for trial...
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That just seems wrong to me."
BAM! Warren kicks it up a notch! R& |
Response to longship (Reply #48)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:42 AM
MissMarple (9,570 posts)
53. Bingo! Classic line.
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Too big to fail has become too big for trial.
Robin Hood moment, most truely so. |
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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:24 AM
JDPriestly (37,712 posts)
51. Thank you, Elizabeth Warren. Finally a Senator with integrity.
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Finally.
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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:34 AM
burrowowl (8,952 posts)
52. Go Elizabeth!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:03 AM
johnnyreb (114 posts)
54. Bless you Senator Warren!!
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Was *any* of this on cable news? (Probably take too much time away from the cruise ship story.)
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:05 AM
juajen (7,888 posts)
55. Women are like chocolate: Soft, sensuous, filling and full of good things that bring life to the
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weariest day. Beautiful, exhilarating and brave. Hooray for Hillary and Elizabeth! Long may they wave!
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Response to juajen (Reply #55)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:30 AM
Larry Ogg (1,399 posts)
71. Their both of the same gender, and then the comparison ends...
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Elizabeth Warren doesn't act, or talk like a conservative, and has never been a Republican that calls herself a Democrat.
But yes... Hooray for Elizabeth! |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:43 AM
Hulk (3,075 posts)
56. ooooh, the banks aren't going to like this lady for the next six years!
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Let's expose these white collar criminals for what they really are. Good for you, Senator Warner!!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:23 AM
snort (214 posts)
57. WOW! WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW!
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WOW!
As one of many who had the TBTF fuck me over, this makes me really happy. She is fantastic! |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:12 AM
Scuba (26,668 posts)
58. Thank you Senator Warren (you too WillyT)!!!!!
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:16 AM
EastKYLiberal (429 posts)
59. Nice to have her and the President on our side. nt
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:46 AM
Zorra (18,778 posts)
60. She'll do far more than embarrass them if we elect her prez in 2016. nt
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:09 AM
tclambert (5,528 posts)
61. Such a simple question. With such devastating effects.
Response to tclambert (Reply #61)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:05 AM
reformist2 (4,051 posts)
68. It shows just how corrupt Washington is, that nobody has ever challenged them before.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:56 AM
malaise (105,896 posts)
65. I love Elizabeth Warren
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She tore them a new one
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 08:58 AM
reformist2 (4,051 posts)
67. She makes it SO clear these "regulators" are all lap dogs. They should all be fired.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:13 AM
malthaussen (2,218 posts)
69. Elizabeth Warren FTW
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Ya know, I just love somebody who asks a simple question and doesn't accept weasel words as an answer. Wish a few of our media pundits would do this once in awhile.
Of course, Warren doesn't have to worry about having her access pulled. -- Mal |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:24 AM
cate94 (816 posts)
70. That was awesome!
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Nail on the head with her last statement:
"I'm concerned that too big to fail has become too big for trial. That just seems wrong to me." |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:44 AM
horseshoecrab (838 posts)
73. Massachusetts' new Senior Senator...
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Elizabeth Warren is simply incredible and she is on our side for sure!!! |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:42 AM
MrYikes (668 posts)
75. Yes, she is great.
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I am off to write to my senator asking that he befriend Warren and become a warrior himself on any topic of his choosing.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 10:48 AM
hamsterjill (4,291 posts)
76. She is brilliant!
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I love how she keeps her cool, and yet just keeps plugging at them!
Thank you, Elizabeth, for being brave enough to stand up for ordinary citizens! |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:10 PM
DFW (13,303 posts)
79. They all squirmed and couldn't bring themselves to say "never"
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Which said "NEVER" louder than any direct admission ever could.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
limpyhobbler (6,627 posts)
80. She's great!.
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:03 PM
Raffi Ella (3,507 posts)
81. K&R
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Thank You, Senator Warren!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:31 PM
bvar22 (29,497 posts)
87. Hooray for Senator Warren!!!
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...but it is really sad that this is so remarkable.
This should be the NORM, not the EXCEPTION. I wish I could see this, and say (yawn)"Just another Democrat doing their job." You will know them by their WORKS, not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses. Solidarity99! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:07 PM
Blue Owl (8,445 posts)
89. A couple slingshots like this just might bring some Goliaths down
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:11 PM
Coolest Ranger (331 posts)
90. I love it. They stopped her from being in charge of the very agency
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she helped to create. But she ran for Senate and now has even more power.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:17 PM
MirrorAshes (996 posts)
91. I love her so much.
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Teddy's seat is once again filled with the heart and tenacity of a Lion.
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:20 PM
liberal_at_heart (3,583 posts)
92. She is just so freaking awesome!
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:21 PM
Prism (3,437 posts)
93. And these are the *regulators*
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If there has been a clearer illustration of what's wrong with the regulators' relationship with corporations, I've not seen it.
She nailed them to the wall, and it only took her four minutes to do it. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:21 PM
LiberalLovinLug (2,024 posts)
96. Thankyou Elizabeth
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:28 PM
Douglas Carpenter (15,124 posts)
97. Elizabeth Warren for President 2016
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:33 PM
lexw (804 posts)
98. AWE!!!!!! SOME!!!!!
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:34 PM
Blanks (1,350 posts)
99. She is very impressive.
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I hope she doesn't have any skeletons in her closet. If she goes after bankers like this; we will hear about every thing that she has ever done that could even be perceived as wrong.
I hope she gets some support on this from other senators. |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:07 PM
RT_Fanatic (213 posts)
100. I applaud Senator Warren
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We in Pennsylvania wish with all our hearts that we had a senator like her.
One thing I noted was that the Wall Streeters never answered her questions. Is it possible to "embarrass" people who have no shame? |
Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:12 PM
chase48 (41 posts)
101. This Cherokee is very proud of Elizabeth
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I and a lot of Oklahomans supported Senator Warren with our monies, I feel so proud that we Oklahomans helped her to that senate seat, I stayed up just to witness some teeth in that senate being Elizabeth! All those wall street CEO's are guilty of the felony fraud, they are all thieves and should be in a federal pen for tanking our economy, but fraud didn't start with those crooks, it began with the real estate Associate that started those NINJA real estate sales, no job, no income, no assets mortgages, he got a commission, passed on to his Realtor who approved the fraud so he got a commission, sold to Goldman Sachs that got those crappy loans rated AAA, they both committed fraud, then bundled them and then tanked AIG buying negative insurance, betting they would fail, all those banks made a ton of fraudulent profits, sold them to credit unions and investors all over the world, knowing they were toxic and would fail and did fail, cashed in their credit defaults swaps,(insurance policy's) when home owners defaulted when they could not pay their ARM mortgages(adjustable rate mortgages), those banks knew those mortgages were toxic and knew home owners would default, that is about the same as premeditated murder, so senator Warren is saying , these guys are guilty of felony crimes, why are they not being prosecuted? I would like my president to ask the same question, and I believe all those commissions should be returned to the victim, the home owners, just sayin!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:22 PM
Owl (1,673 posts)
102. I love Elizabeth Warren!
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Wow, that was awesome!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 02:26 PM
Brother Buzz (8,348 posts)
105. Pee-wee Herman chimes in
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Glad I wasn't on Carnival Triumph, don't live in Russia and wasn't being asked questions today by Elizabeth Warren. TGIF!!
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Response to WillyT (Original post)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:27 PM
truedelphi (25,919 posts)
107. What we are all witnessing is the end of any type of democracy in our God-forsaken nation
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It's nice that one junior Senator is asking questions. But what is most important is that in our country, our electoral system gives us a choice between two people, both of whom are for the Big Financial Firms. The appointments the winner of that debacle makes are what the game is all about. Like the "Onion" reported the other day, the remaining 47 members of the Middle Class were all very happy to hear Obama's pronouncements of going to bat for them during his SOTU. I almsot laughed but it's not funny - there are around 47 members of the Middle Class left standing.
Obama could be appointing people like Neil Barofsky to head the Treasury or SEC. He could be appointing people like Sheila Bair. Or for that matter, Mr Sandy Weill (As long as Sandy keeps to his ideas about breaking the banks up.) Instead we have had four years of Tim Geithner, and now we get Jack Lew. Right now the USA is a nation wherein for every dollar of profit generated in the country, some 47 cents are going to the coffers of the world's largest banks and financial firms. In our parents' generation, this was something like 8 to 9 cents out of every dollar of profit. And the whole system is one giant Ponzi scheme. Plus the system is suffering with the afflictions that the Mafia used to utilize ramped up a 1,000 notches. I remember my dad grumbling abut the poor saps in Chicago who borrowed money from Guido, for 150% interest per year. Now some fifty years later, and we all are hearing that the Big Banks are lending money out to the community on Main Street once again. But what they mean by that is an individual can go into ta PayDay loan firm and get a loan for which they will be required to pay some 900% interest!!! |



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