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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:26 PM

NDAA Nooz: A Youn Man from Occupy Virginia Speaks Out For 1st & 5th Amendments of US Constitution

My hat is off to this young man. Well done Trey.

THIS is what it looks like to truly "serve your country well". I am a lifelong
Democrat and a long-time Obama supporter, who voted for him in both 08 & 12.
And as such, I feel similarly to Trey: i.e. that it is my patriotic DUTY to find every
conceivable way to apply pressure on the President to undo this NDAA travesty, now
happeningin a virtual black hole of studious NON-coverage by the M$M, so the general
public is pretty much completely clueless about these new laws, and their long term
implications and dangers, especially under future presidents who may not be nearly
as trustworthy and "benign" as President Obama.

We are not doing Obama any favors by allowing the NDAA train-wreck in slow
motion to roll over our rights, unimpeded by any grass-roots progressive Resistance.
This is precisely what the OCCUPY WALL ST. phenomenon was/is ALL about.

I feel it's my duty as a US citizen to also speak out about this issue, and to continue
to do what I can, to support and report on the currently unfolding trials and hearings
re: Chris Hedges et al vs. Barack Obama.

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NDAA - A Youn Man from Virginia Takes a Stand Against Autocracy in New York City
OpEdNews Op Eds 2/14/2013 at 12:19:23 *** By Marianne Hoynes

A threat to our right to bear arms seems to get a lot of people from all sides of the issue very plugged in and outraged. Nothing has been done to regulate the Second Amendment to the Constitution yet, but imagine what the People would do, if the Congress and the President just did away with all gun rights for all Americans?

Congress and The President have done away with First and Fifth Amendments to the Constitution, by a law passed in 2012 called NDAA or National Defense Authorization Act. There is very little outcry that We the People have lost our right to free speech, free press or the right to peacefully assemble, granted in the First Amendment. We have lost the protection of the Fifth Amendment. We can now be deprived of life, liberty and property without due process of law. We have lost our most basic Miranda rights, and rights to habeus corpus. Most Americans are not following the details in this case that affect our very freedoms, and what defines us as American. Who cares?

Well, 29 year old Trey Walter Kindred cares. Last week, Trey hopped a bus from Virginia at 3:00 am, so that he could be a witness to the appeals case for Chris Hedges et al vs. Barack Obama NDAA hearing at the Federal Court of Appeals in New York City.

Trey is a concerned citizen. "I have been following the NDAA trial for the last year. I didn't know that I could attend the trial until I saw a page through the Occupy group on Facebook, inviting people to come and show solidarity. I didn't just want to be here. I feel like it is my duty to be here as an American."

Trey arrived at the court house early in order to get inside and a good position from which to bear witness to this historical trial. "I wanted to show my support for Chris Hedges in any way, shape or form. NDAA is a travesty for Civil Rights. Obama is betraying the People."

Similar to many people in Trey's age demographic, he and his friends voted for Barack Obama in 2008.

Trey said, "Obama ran on things like, denouncing George Bush for signing the Patriot Act, and holding prisoners in indefinite detention in Guantanamo Bay. But then Obama signed the Patriot Act himself
. He didn't free anyone from Guantanamo. He didnt stop the torturing. What he did in fact do, was take the Patriot Act, pump it full of steroids and sign it into the bill called NDAA. He didnt write it, but he signed it. It isn't just Obama. He is part of a large, evil system; but because he takes part in that system, that makes him just as evil."

The attorney Carl Mayer, suing Obama on the grounds that this bill is unconstitutional, argues that the language in a bill is what defines the law. Section 1021 provides sweeping powers of detention through incredibly vague and undefined terms.

If a U.S. Citizen is arrested, he or she must be given his or her Miranda rights. NDAA speaks of "capturing" citizens, an undefined term, and overturns hundreds of years of domestic law. It permits the U.S. military to seize U.S. citizens, to hold them in military facilities including offshore penal colonies, until the end of hostilities, whenever that is, with no right to due process of any kind. Never has the U.S. military had the authority to arrest a U.S. citizen while civil law still exists, until NDAA.

Trey said, "I learned that I could go to the hearing through the Occupy Movement. I'm not on the street screaming about injustices, but I consider myself to be part of Occupy. All Americans are. This is the only way things are going to change for US.

I thought our country was going through tough financial times. How is it even financially responsible to enforce NDAA all over the world, as the U.S. seems to become self imposed international law by these kinds of actions? The NDAA is a travesty to all humanity on the planet. Now we really are the World Police."

Conservatives, Liberals and Progressives alike should stand in outrage against the autocracy established in this bill. What happens in the outcome of this appeals case matters not only in current politics and law, but matters as a stepping stone to future infringement of our liberties in the U.S.. There is a huge force of anti privacy laws being passed now. Will we be Americans like Trey Walter Kindred, and stand up for our individual freedoms and fight for our Constitution? Or will we sit silently, out of fear or lack of attention to these issues, and allow our silence to be the consent of our undoing?

http://opednews.com/articles/NDAA--A-Youn-Man-from-Vir-by-Marianne-Hoynes-130213-835.html

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Reply NDAA Nooz: A Youn Man from Occupy Virginia Speaks Out For 1st & 5th Amendments of US Constitution (Original post)
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 OP
Marianne Hoynes Feb 2013 #1
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #3
Marianne Hoynes Feb 2013 #7
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #11
Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #9
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #10
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #2
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #4
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #5
99th_Monkey Feb 2013 #6
Marianne Hoynes Feb 2013 #8
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #12

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:17 AM

1. Clarification from the Author of this Article

Thanks for sharing my article. To be clear, Trey is NOT a lifelong Democrat. He is an independent. He did NOT vote for Obama in 2012, only in 2008. Soon after Obama was elected, Trey was horrified by Obama signing the Patriot Act. He was horrified by Obama selling out the American people to Big Insurance, under the guise of a health care bill. Trey is totally plugged in, totally aware of the truth of American politics. He is a fine example of the kind of American we all need to be, if we truly intend to take our country back from the large Corporations who hold all of the influence.
Kind Regards and thanks for sharing,
Marianne Hoynes

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Response to Marianne Hoynes (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 03:58 PM

3. The article and the OP are TWO separate pieces of writing

written by TWO separate people.

I wrote the OP text, and Trey wrote the article.

These TWO separate pieces of writing are separated by

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Hope this helps clarify the post. Sorry for any confusion
on your part.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:46 AM

7. Clarification for 99th Monkey

HI! I am the author of the article. I interviewed Trey Kindred at length for this piece, and the correction I made about him not being a democrat, and about him not voting for Obama in his second term because Obama quickly showed hsi true colors after he was elected the first time,and signed first the Patriot Act, and then this current NDAA bill, as well as selling us out on health care reform, are all reasons why reasonable people could not vote for Obama in the last election, Trey included. Read the article again, where it states who the author is. That will help clear this point up. Again, thanks for sharing my article.

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Response to Marianne Hoynes (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:39 PM

11. I get it now. U R correct. Thanks for the great article. nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:12 PM

9. I don't think Marianne is confused, at all...

You said this:
Like Trey, I'm a lifelong
Democrat and a long-time Obama supporter, who voted for him in both 08 & 12.


Marianne pointed out that Trey is #1) not a lifelong Democrat and #2) did not vote for Obama in 2012.

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:38 PM

10. Ah - that helps. Thank you. nt

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:39 AM

2. People here will have a problem with Obama being called "evil", but I have no other word for NDAA.

 

I cannot figure why he first signed it on New Year's Eve, and then either sent or allowed government lawyers to overturn the subsequent ruling of its being unConstitutional (Chris Hedges v. Obama), then signed it AGAIN for another year. What is going on here.

NO president needs these powers. This is America, or was

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:04 PM

4. Personally

I think Obama has been "talked with" by the Dark Side,
maybe shown the Zapruder film a few times, and asked
"any questions?"

He has a lovely family too, which he loves very much,
and I can't say I blame him really.

These are sad and frightful times for our nation, to the
extent that it still even exists as a "democracy" at all.

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:22 PM

5. No one interested in being president, operating at those levels, could not already understand

 

this very, very clearly.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 06:28 PM

6. Yes.

Abraham, Martin, Bobby & John, or so the song goes.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:00 PM

8. One of the most disturbing things i have ever heard

Hi Fire, I wrote the original article on OpEd News, and I was at the Second Court of Appeals trial a couple of weeks ago. I can tell you, that the President and his attorney are SPECIFICALLY fighting the part of NDAA which allows for military control over civil authority (not seen since before the signing of the Magna Carta) and indefinite detention of US Citizens both in the US and abroad. Chris Hedges speculates that the reason Obama is fighting so hard for this, is because it would cover up crimes he has already committed, and if this part of the law is considered unconstitutional, he will be in contempt of court. Hedges, you might know, was embedded with the Taliban, and got an amazing perspective on his reporting of our actions in this long, unending "war on terror". He believes that many Pakistani Americans, holding dual citizenship, are indeed now being held in indefinite detention without having been given their rights as US citizens. Thanks to Obama we no longer live in a time when we arrest people. we just kill with impunity. This law removes the checks and balances of our former Republic and turns it into... well, i'll let you draw the conclusion. Thanks for the comment.

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Response to Marianne Hoynes (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:37 PM

12. Thank you for the clarification and the background. I was for the most part unfamiliar with

 

Chris Hedges prior to the advent of OWS. A very interesting angle on the Pakistani Americans. And the case is Hedges etc. V. Obama, so I'll have to accept that it is Obama directly working to sustain section 1021 which Chris had managed to have ruled UnConstitutional. !!

Thank you for writing about something about which the majority of Americans have never heard, and of course, there is good reason for media to not discuss it.

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