Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:57 PM
OregonBlue (4,026 posts)
Really interesting stuff about Chuck Hagel we all should know
Groups who support Hagel’s nomination:
Veterans of Foreign Wars Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America AMVETS VoteVets.org Military Officers Association of America Non Commissioned Officers Association of the USA Vietnam Veterans of America The American Legion Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund Holding the rank of Sergeant (E-5), he served as an infantry squad leader in the 9th Infantry Division. Hagel served in the same infantry squad as his younger brother Tom, and they are believed to be the only American siblings to do so during the Vietnam War. They also ended up saving each other's lives on separate occasions. While serving during the war, he received the the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, two Purple Hearts, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge. Shards from a Viet Cong mine are still embedded in Chuck Hagel’s chest, 44 years after his infantry squad walked into a booby trap in the Vietnam jungle. Scar tissue marks the left side of his face from another mine explosion, barely a month after his first brush with death. Under President Ronald Reagan, Chuck Hagel was named deputy administrator of the Veterans Administration. In 1982, however, he resigned his post over a disagreement with VA Administrator Robert P. Nimmo, who was intent on cutting funding for VA programs. Nimmo had referred to veterans groups as "greedy", and to Agent Orange as not much worse than a "little teenage acne." And this is the guy Ted Cruz was calling a traitor!!
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20 replies, 2001 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| OregonBlue | Feb 2013 | OP | |
| riverbendviewgal | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
| SunSeeker | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Feb 2013 | #6 | |
| SunSeeker | Feb 2013 | #7 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Feb 2013 | #8 | |
| LibGranny | Feb 2013 | #11 | |
| Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | Feb 2013 | #16 | |
| OregonBlue | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
| Blue Idaho | Feb 2013 | #9 | |
| Cha | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
| mountain grammy | Feb 2013 | #4 | |
| OregonBlue | Feb 2013 | #10 | |
| 1-Old-Man | Feb 2013 | #12 | |
| mountain grammy | Feb 2013 | #13 | |
| Inuca | Feb 2013 | #15 | |
| mountain grammy | Feb 2013 | #18 | |
| Slit Skirt | Feb 2013 | #14 | |
| Inuca | Feb 2013 | #20 | |
| TwilightGardener | Feb 2013 | #17 | |
| Berlum | Feb 2013 | #19 |
Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:59 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
1. Ted cruz did not serve
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and he is joe mccarthy reincarnated.
I emailed John McCain and said he should be ashamed. I do suggest all you Americans do the same. |
Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:30 PM
SunSeeker (5,034 posts)
5. I would like to. What e-mail address did you use for McCain?
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An e-mail to Ted Cruz would be good too.
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #5)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:38 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
6. I went to his government senator website
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you can contact him that way.
I had to put in a USA zip code.( I lied) but put in all my address. I told him he should be ashamed. and his party. too Canadians really think he is terrible. and Obama is so great. |
Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #6)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:49 PM
SunSeeker (5,034 posts)
7. Too bad. I know that is how all the congressional sites are set up.
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They only want to hear from their own constituents--and the sites will divert you to your representative if you try to e-mail anyone else. That is why I was hoping maybe you had an actual e-mail address for him. My Senators are Feinstein and Boxer, and they are already voting the way I want them to.
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #7)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:53 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
8. There is a place for a certain state on his site...
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I did it with p utting in a NJ zip but my whole address and name.
http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm |
Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:22 PM
LibGranny (468 posts)
11. I shall do just that! In fact, I e-mail ol' McSane regularly!
Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:21 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (6,600 posts)
16. Another chickenhawk
Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:03 PM
OregonBlue (4,026 posts)
2. I emailed Harry Reid. He must rethink his "gentlemen's agreement". He is not dealing with gentlemen.
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He's dealing with Republicans and Teahadists.
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Response to OregonBlue (Reply #2)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:54 PM
Blue Idaho (1,096 posts)
9. Ther are only two possible conclusions one can draw...
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Last edited Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Either Harry is unwilling to change the long standing traditions of the Senate or he wants to keep things exactly as they are to protect his own self interests.
I'm beginning to think Harry likes things just the way they are. |
Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:55 PM
Cha (124,564 posts)
3. Impressive! Thanks OregonBlue
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Ted Cruz is an Idiot.
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Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:29 PM
mountain grammy (1,602 posts)
4. Thanks. Mind if I post this on my Facebook page? I've researched and know it's true.
Response to mountain grammy (Reply #4)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:13 PM
OregonBlue (4,026 posts)
10. Please spread it far and wide. Everyone needs to know what traitorous bastards these Teahadists are!
Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:36 PM
1-Old-Man (1,473 posts)
12. Didn't he also own the company who produced the voting machines that got him elected?
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Wasn't Chuck''s first election the first one in which the results were exactly the opposite of what the exit polls predicted they should have been?
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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:58 PM
mountain grammy (1,602 posts)
13. There are a few reasons this nomination is troubling
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and the fact Hagel, at the very least, bought that senate seat is one. His previously stated anti gay sentiments are another. That said, I think the President nominated him because he has the credentials to cut back the military. He will stand up to the brass. For this reason, I support his nomination. The military establishment needs some push back and I think Hagel will do it. And I hope he takes an axe to the military spending in the states his opponents represent.
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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:15 PM
Inuca (8,916 posts)
15. Sorry, but stating as a fact that
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at he very least, he bought his Senate seat is akin to Cruz saying that he has been paid by Iran or North Korea. It's not based on fact, just inuendo.
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Response to Inuca (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:39 PM
mountain grammy (1,602 posts)
18. As far as Cruz goes, he pulled the Iran and North Korea references out of his ass,
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not a whisper of truth or fact there. The money spent on Hagel's senate race did help get him elected, and that's a fact. But you're right, there's no evidence he "bought" his seat, and all talk of election rigging is inuendo.
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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:17 AM
Slit Skirt (1,789 posts)
14. That is exactly right....
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I notice how no one talks about THAT
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Response to Slit Skirt (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:49 AM
Inuca (8,916 posts)
20. Actually they do
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I saw quite a few tweets claiming that Obama stole both elections with Hagel's help. And no, I am NOT kidding (I wish I was...)
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Response to 1-Old-Man (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:37 PM
TwilightGardener (39,680 posts)
17. Here's something that sort of addresses it:
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"Stung by Nelson's barrage, Hagel countered with an ad in The Omaha World-Herald calling them "the most scurrilous and false attacks ever made in Nebraska politics." Not the forgiving sort, he has never quite forgotten his grudge against Nelson, who, for the last five years, has been the state's junior senator. Senator Nelson has since been heard to ask how it could be that he managed to get over a big loss while his colleague has yet to get over a big win.
In the blogosphere, where conspiracy theories enjoy a certain immortality, the scale of Hagel's upset victories in 1996 made him an object of suspicion after the Florida voting fiasco of 2000. Here was a virtual unknown who'd once been an officer of a company that made the voting machines on which most ballots were cast in Nebraska. But these were scanners, not digital counters; paper ballots survived, available for a recount that neither of his rivals sought. (When he ran for re-election in 2002, he won even bigger, capturing 83 percent of the vote, a Nebraska record. Out on the Web, suspicion lived on.) " http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/magazine/12hagel.html?pagewanted=all No one in Nebraska thought he stole the election, apparently. Not even Ben Nelson. |
Response to OregonBlue (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:40 PM
Berlum (3,701 posts)
19. Republican Chickenhawks are the only group against Hagel
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Republican Chickenhawks hate honorable US Veterans, as they show over and over and over.
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