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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 08:57 PM

Audio Catches Cops Shouting ‘Burn This Motherf*cker!’ During Dorner Siege - RawStory

Audio catches cops shouting ‘Burn this motherf*cker!’ during Dorner siege
By David Edwards - RawStory
Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:30 EST



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Scanner audio apparently broadcast by the Los Angeles CBS affiliate KCAL on Tuesday captured angry officers yelling to “burn this motherfucker” prior to a cabin fire that is thought to have burned the body of fugitive ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner.

In a video recording posted to YouTube on Tuesday, the anchor pauses to let the viewer hear the mostly-inaudible scanner traffic.

“Do it right now,” one voice says. “Fucking burn this motherfucker!”

“Police officers, understandably upset,” the anchor explains.

A separate recording of scanner traffic — which has not been verified — features officers talking about going forward “with the burn.”

“All right, Steve, we’re gonna go — we’re gonna go forward with the plan, with — with the burn,” a male voice on the recording instructs. “We want it like we talked about.”

“Seven burners deployed and we have a fire,” the voice later adds.

“Copy,” a female voice replies. “Seven burners deployed and we have a fire.”

“Guys, be ready on the number four side. We have fire in the front. He might come out the back,” a male voice says.

As the Modesto Bee noted last year, there is one type of incendiary tear gas canister call a “burner,” which can start fires when deployed.


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Link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/13/audio-catches-cops-shouting-burn-this-motherfcker-during-dorner-siege/

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Reply Audio Catches Cops Shouting ‘Burn This Motherf*cker!’ During Dorner Siege - RawStory (Original post)
WillyT Feb 2013 OP
PDJane Feb 2013 #1
WillyT Feb 2013 #6
joshcryer Feb 2013 #2
Electric Monk Feb 2013 #3
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #15
MjolnirTime Feb 2013 #4
Zoeisright Feb 2013 #17
Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #5
WillyT Feb 2013 #8
nc4bo Feb 2013 #7
WillyT Feb 2013 #9
fascisthunter Feb 2013 #11
WillyT Feb 2013 #13
fascisthunter Feb 2013 #10
lonestarnot Feb 2013 #12
ReRe Feb 2013 #14
frylock Feb 2013 #16

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:00 PM

1. he was not going to get a day in court. The complaints he made

were the same complaints that critics of the force have been making for years.

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Response to PDJane (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:31 PM

6. Yep...

Following the Rampart Division C.R.A.S.H. scandal of the late 1990s - early 2000s, the United States Department of Justice entered into a consent decree with the LAPD regarding numerous civil rights violations. Mayor Richard J. Riordan and the Los Angeles city council agreed to the terms of the decree on November 2, 2000. The federal judge formally entered the decree into law on June 15, 2001. The consent decree is legally binding, and lasted until July 17, 2009, when U.S. District Court Judge Gary Feess terminated it. Under the terms of a transitional agreement approved by Feess, the Board of Police Commissioners and the Office of Inspector General, which monitors the department on behalf of the Board of Police Commissioners, will assume responsibility for keeping tabs on the department's efforts to fully implement a few still-incomplete or recently finished reforms. If lawyers for the U.S. Department of Justice are not satisfied with the oversight by the LAPD's Inspector General, the agreement allows them to object and bring the department back before Feess.

The Rampart scandal mainly surrounded the unethical and illegal actions of members of the LAPD's anti-gang unit, Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums (CRASH). In particular, Javier Ovando, an unarmed teenager, had been shot and paralyzed by then-officer Rafael Pérez. After the shooting, Pérez planted a gun on Ovando and claimed self-defense. Ovando was sent to prison, although later he was exonerated and released. By 2001, the resulting investigations would lead to more than 75 officers being investigated or charged and over 100 criminal cases being overturned due to perjury or other forms of misconduct, much based on the plea-bargain testimony of Perez.

The DOJ-LAPD consent decree places emphasis on the following nine major areas:...


Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Police_Department





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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:02 PM

2. Whether it was police acting on their own or orders...

...this needs to seriously be investigated. All who acted this way need to be held accountable. They should have been trained on the difference between tear gas canisters and if they intentionally shot incendiary ones indoors they should be locked up.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:07 PM

3. The cops clearly didn't want Dorner "dead or alive". They wanted him dead.

k&r

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Response to Electric Monk (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:00 PM

15. I grates on me to defend cops...

but this guy proved he wasn't going to be taken alive.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:16 PM

4. Seven Burners and they got a fire alright. That's just as cold as what Dorner was doing.

 

What if there had been others in that basement?

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Response to MjolnirTime (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:53 PM

17. Oh my god what a stupid post.

Taking out a guy who was murdering people in cold blood is the same thing? Christ on a crutch, logical reasoning isn't your strong suit, sparky.

They obviously knew no one else was in the house.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:26 PM

5. Hey, Willy. I think you'll appreciate this by Max Blumenthal

His report matches the above description and he goes further to point out the LAPD lies and media complicity.

In the hours after the standoff, however, the police cover-up remained unchallenged thanks largely to local media complicity. An initial Los Angeles Times report recounted the incident in a passive voice, claiming “flames began to spread through the structure, and gunshots, probably set off by the fire, were heard.” Similarly, LA’s ABC affiliate, KABC, quoted Bachman’s vague comment about “that cabin that caught fire,” failing to explore why it was aflame or who torched it.

Today, the Los Angeles Times reported claims by anonymous “law enforcement sources” that the sheriffs used “incendiary tear gas” to flush Dorner out of the cabin. The sources claimed the deputies who had besieged the cabin were under a “constant barrage of gunfire” and that, “There weren’t a lot of options.”

This is almost certainly a lie. The only mention by a deputy at the scene of a gunshot from inside the cabin was the “single shot” that occurred as soon as the “burners,” or incendiary teargas munitions, were deployed. After that point, deputies made constant mention of ammunition exploding inside the cabin as a result of the intense heat of the fire they set, but said nothing about any shots fired at them.

If there were a “constant barrage of gunfire,” it would have been the main source of concern among the police at the scene. Instead, they were preoccupied with ensuring that the fire burned the cabin completely without spreading into the surrounding woods.


http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/how-law-enforcement-and-media-covered-plan-burn-christopher-dorner-alive?page=0%2C1



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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:39 PM

8. Thank You For That !!! - And Yeah... We All Knew It Was Gonna End Something Like This...

I particularly watched in wonder...

As many "news" correspondents asked the question, "If you could speak to Dorner right now, what would you advise him to do ???"

And every one of the "police" spokesmen... went on to give good and serious surrender advice...

Problem was... all power had ben cut to the "cabin"...

He could NOT hear their advice... whether he would have followed it or not.

That bit of theater was aimed at the rest of us.




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:38 PM

7. Dorner sympathizers....

I predict anyone discussing any of this will bear the label and it will come from their fellow DUers.

They will be mocked, chastised, criticized for daring to ask questions.

Is deploying 7 of these devices typical SOP? Overkill for the desired effect?

Not a sympathizer, I just want to know the truth.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:02 PM

9. Me Too...

I cherish the truth...

And anything less...

Is cynicsm.




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Response to WillyT (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:05 PM

11. well, this website gives them the impression it is justified

a post not too long ago by somebody here with lots of pull made that mistake.

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:09 PM

13. After Rodney King... I Cannot Allow This Guy's Complaints To Go UnHeard...

The LAPD has one SHIT history.

Dorner was a symptom... revealing the disease.


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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:03 PM

10. sounds like a thug with a badge of courage

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:07 PM

12. Whoopsie again.

busted.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:36 PM

14. Thanks again, WillyT

K&R

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:27 PM

16. say what you will about emotions, and i'm sure they were running high..

but this is the same mentality of someone that will beat a person within an inch of their fucking life for not complying with orders quickly enough. the same fucker we entrust to "protect and serve."

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