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Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 OP
robinlynne Feb 2013 #1
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #2
robinlynne Feb 2013 #5
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #8
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #13
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #19
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #64
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #67
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #16
loli phabay Feb 2013 #26
DevonRex Feb 2013 #34
loli phabay Feb 2013 #38
DevonRex Feb 2013 #68
jberryhill Feb 2013 #35
Arkana Feb 2013 #18
LisaL Feb 2013 #3
DevonRex Feb 2013 #27
WCGreen Feb 2013 #55
sibelian Feb 2013 #4
broiles Feb 2013 #6
longship Feb 2013 #36
cbayer Feb 2013 #7
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #20
cbayer Feb 2013 #25
DevonRex Feb 2013 #37
backtoblue Feb 2013 #9
ellie Feb 2013 #10
LisaL Feb 2013 #11
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #24
backtoblue Feb 2013 #44
ellie Feb 2013 #31
mwdem Feb 2013 #17
magical thyme Feb 2013 #28
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #12
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #46
DonViejo Feb 2013 #57
magical thyme Feb 2013 #14
John1956PA Feb 2013 #21
NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #15
backtoblue Feb 2013 #22
SidDithers Feb 2013 #23
DevonRex Feb 2013 #29
jberryhill Feb 2013 #30
SidDithers Feb 2013 #39
longship Feb 2013 #45
LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #61
jberryhill Feb 2013 #32
Chorophyll Feb 2013 #33
loli phabay Feb 2013 #41
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #49
loli phabay Feb 2013 #52
NCTraveler Feb 2013 #40
SidDithers Feb 2013 #42
randome Feb 2013 #54
cali Feb 2013 #43
cali Feb 2013 #47
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #48
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #50
SidDithers Feb 2013 #51
KingFlorez Feb 2013 #65
seabeyond Feb 2013 #53
SidDithers Feb 2013 #56
seabeyond Feb 2013 #60
ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #58
cthulu2016 Feb 2013 #59
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #62
LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #63
madinmaryland Feb 2013 #66
SidDithers Feb 2013 #71
hootinholler Feb 2013 #69
myrna minx Feb 2013 #70
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #72

Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:51 PM

1. what? is this a joke?

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:52 PM

2. Pretty sure this is fake.

As fake as the fake zombie news alert in Montana.

"Confrimed?"

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:53 PM

5. The people speaking appear to be in Washington. I dont recognize those news anchors. They are not

local.

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Response to robinlynne (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:56 PM

8. Looks like CNN to me.

http://www.cnn.com/

CNN is still reporting that the body is in all likelihood Dorner's.


Fake.

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Response to robinlynne (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:03 PM

13. But that is Mayor Villain. Hoping this is not a photoshop.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:05 PM

19. Well you posted it, so you would know.

Seriously, this is about as insulting to our intelligence as the Sandy Hook conspiracy theorists.

Please self-delete.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:44 PM

64. I've edited the OP and included an apology. And also the police acts which prompted me to have

 

even a grain of belief that this could certainly be a possibility. Sorry.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #64)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:47 PM

67. I would suggest self-deleting the entire OP.

Glad you admitted that you were duped, but the entire thread makes us look bad, like Sandy Hook conspiracy peddlers or 9-11 truthers.

Or even worse, birthers.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:03 PM

16. Missed that, thanks. I'm all for this being a fake so that LAPD are not guilty of killing a citizen.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:09 PM

26. I think it was San bernandino sheriffs not lapd who pinned him down.

 

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:16 PM

34. Yep, it's their jurisdiction. I suppose CBI

could have taken over, but certainly not LAPD.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:19 PM

38. cbi would help and advise but probuably left the locals who know the terrain take the lead

 

This idea that the lapd ran the show dosent jibe. No sheriff is going to get rode roughshod over by another jurisdiction. Even the feds try to liase with locals as they want the local knowledge and manpower.

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #38)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:48 PM

68. My experience with the feds is

All the agencies do pretty well with that - except the FBI will swoop in at the last second if there's credit to be taken. They'll disappear completely after they fuck something up. Never fails. Yeah, I was in one of those other agencies.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:16 PM

35. I believe Dorner was a citizen


So, I don't see what this alleged report has to do with that.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:05 PM

18. The font in the CNN crawl doesn't match their usual font. It's fake.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:53 PM

3. Or maybe the body is that of an alien form outer space?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:09 PM

27. I bet that's it. And Obama is covering up his alien invasion!


Just in case somebody needed the sarcasm tag.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:31 PM

55. Where is Art Bell when we need him most...

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:53 PM

4. Which channel is that supposed to be? nt

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:53 PM

6. WTF! How bad can the LAPD fuck up?

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Response to broiles (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:17 PM

36. Please! Not LAPD!!

Big Bear is in San Bernadino County. LAPD have no jurisdiction there (nor in Torrance, where those two paper delivery women were shot at).

What happened near Big Bear was local/county LE, not LAPD.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:55 PM

7. Do you have a link for this image?

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Response to cbayer (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:05 PM

20. It's via twitter. Obviously just someone taking a photo or film of their tele.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:08 PM

25. Well, that's a very interesting link there, but it doesn't seem to have

anything to do with your OP.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:19 PM

37. Yeah, a Bing search? WTF? It sure isn't a twitter link.

Maybe one is being generated...

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:58 PM

9. Fire, did you take this pic or find it on the web?

Could you provide a link to this if you can? Thanks!

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:59 PM

10. Confirmed is spelled wrong onscreen

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Response to ellie (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:02 PM

11. Doesn't everybody spell it like that?

Confrimed.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:08 PM

24. Even if this turns out to be a fake, it's been worth it solely for the new word.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:23 PM

44. Fire, I would delete this before someone believes it or reposts it as fact.

It looks fake, no one can find a reputable link to back it. I think maybe you should take it down before the hounds come after you...

Just my thoughts, though.


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Response to LisaL (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:14 PM

31. It makes me think it is not real

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Response to ellie (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:04 PM

17. Must be Fox then...

They've gotten many things wrong.

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Response to mwdem (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:10 PM

28. catering to their teaparty base

who would think they were effete, intellectual snobs if they didn't have at least one misspell...

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:02 PM

12. I'd have to think that knowingly posting this false image is a PPR-ible offense

It certainly demonstrates a rather shocking contempt for everybody on this board, and does not account well of one's character.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 PM

46. I do not know that it is fake. I did qualify that it is unconfirmed. How about flippantly calling

 

for a PRR being a PRR offence as well?

LAPD have been shooting to kill since the first minute of this debacle, unloading 64 bullets at two women, and shot up two more suspects, all of whom utterly failed to be a 280 pound black man (heavily armed). They purposely burned the cabin without knowing anything about who might be inside. It is unfortunately possible that this is true, and in my experience of LAPD, they'd work to cover it up if it were.

:/

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #46)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:39 PM

57. Fire, your assertion is wrong...

read comment 36, above, just below comment 6

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:03 PM

14. without a link, I expect fake

But it also wouldn't be the first time a typo appeared on teevee...rare but not impossible

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Response to magical thyme (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:06 PM

21. The URL to the posted image is at someone's Flickr account.

The image strikes me as being a hoax.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:03 PM

15. Evidently this unnamed station knows something all the others don't nt

hope I don't need the sarcasm tag

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:06 PM

22. Bones of a 6 foot tall man vs. bones of a (presumably) smaller female...

Measuring a femur bones, etc. should immediately tell this person's height and structure.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:06 PM

23. Preserving for posterity...

"Police: Charred remains not Dorner; body found confirmed to be female"

This is so far unconfirmed and may be a news agency flub. However, considering how LAPD have been shooting to kill without bothering to make positive ID, this is unfortunately possible. (64 bullets at two women, for example.)





Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:10 PM

29. Thank you, Sid.

Preservation is always best.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:14 PM

30. "confrimed"?


Although news network chyron writers are not always the sharpest knives in the chandelier.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #30)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:20 PM

39. "Confrimed" was too good. I had to use it as the name of my copy of the the image...



Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 PM

45. Wasn't the two women incident in Torrance? Not LA?

If that's so, it wouldn't be LAPD, would it?

Just trying to get that straight.

And Big Bear was certainly not LAPD either, since it isn't even in LA county.

I guess people assume that LAPD has jurisdiction where they don't, an honest mistake. But it would be better to be factual, I think.

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Response to longship (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:41 PM

61. It was in Torrance. The detectives who shot at the women were LAPD.


http://laist.com/2013/02/07/police_shoot_motorists_mistaken_for_dorner.php

Two women delivering newspapers in a truck were struck by gunfire by L.A. police detectives from the Hollywood division.


One wonders why they were in Torrance shooting at the locals.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:15 PM

32. "Confrimed"?

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:16 PM

33. "Confirmed." "Not Confirmed" "Source ... could be fake"

Why post it?

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Response to Chorophyll (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:21 PM

41. shock value and a chance to blame lapd perchance

 

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Response to loli phabay (Reply #41)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:25 PM

49. Because in the trend of their shooting up everything in front of them it may well be true

 

and they'd work to cover it up if so. I certainly don't want it to be true.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #49)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:29 PM

52. and yet you dont get that it was sheriffs deputies that got him not the lapd

 

Wasnt it also another dept that shot the women. Yeah you hate the lapd we get it but you are allowing it to colour your perceptions over a cliff.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:21 PM

40. Should be posted here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1135

Or not posted at all.

Might not be the remains of Dorner. But this isn't even really creative speculation.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:21 PM

42. Personally, I think it's irresponsible to post something like this...

without confirming it's validity.

But that's just me.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:29 PM

54. No, it's not just you.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:23 PM

43. this is disturbingly irresponsible. fucked up.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 PM

47. If you had a shred of decency you'd delete this dog shit that you've posted.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 PM

48. It's fake. LINK to actual CNN interview video:

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:26 PM

50. GAH! Thank you!

 

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:27 PM

51. Shocked. Shocked I am...



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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:44 PM

65. Some probably don't care

It fits the whole conspiracy narrative, so it will be used as fact by some people. It's pathetic that people would make up things like this.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:29 PM

53. you know it is fake. why the fuck ate you not self deleting, but letting it stand.

totally irresponsible.

i read this thinking wtf.... and then had to go elsewhere to find they have not given that info. you are wasting peoples time and trust of the info on du.

you know it is a lie... delete

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:33 PM

56. And I wonder about the 2 posters that would rec a now confirmed fake story...



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Response to SidDithers (Reply #56)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:41 PM

60. should be against SOP, and lovked. purposeful lie in a heated event. wrong on every level. nt

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:40 PM

58. It wouldn't be untoward to change the thread title to "Whoopsie!"

or possibly even delete the whole thing.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:41 PM

59. This should be self-deleted

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #59)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:44 PM

62. The OP wants it to be true, clearly. nt

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #63)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:46 PM

66. "I read it on the internets, so it must be true"

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #63)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:49 PM

71. You know you've fucked up when godlikeproductions thinks you're a Troll...

Re: Remains are NOT DORNER!!!!
Look at the picture the Troll misspelled confirmed.





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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:48 PM

69. Could be someone poisoning the well

Now the gullible will pick this up and the Dorner case will become woo.

Who tweeted it? Where did the shop job originate?

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:48 PM

70. I recommend that you delete this post. Please.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:49 PM

72. Self-deleting, here is why:

 

Original OP content:

Edit: pinboy3niner finds it to be a fake, thank you and apologies to all:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2368309

After LAPD shooting 64 bullets at two women, then shooting up two other suspects, all of which was done without making any positive ID, then police telling media to stop live coverage including to stop tweeting...! then deleting those tweets, and mainstream media saying they didn't know how the cabin fire started yet some broadcast the scanner feed which clearly shows cops calling for the burn plan, this was most certainly a possibility. I apologize to the forum and ask mods to lock the thread.

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This is so far unconfirmed and may be a news agency flub. However, considering how LAPD have been shooting to kill without bothering to make positive ID, this is unfortunately possible. (64 bullets at two women, for example.)

The source is Twitter. This could certainly be a fake.

(deleting link)

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