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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:06 PM

Doesn't anybody else think that the water-drinking wasn't funny and all the fuss about it is stupid?

You just knew as it was happening that it would be an SNL skit, but they're often not funny these days. That this is the main focus of the media instead of Rubio's (in my view tired) talking points is typical and infantile, and were he a Dem people here would be saying so...

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Reply Doesn't anybody else think that the water-drinking wasn't funny and all the fuss about it is stupid? (Original post)
HomerRamone Feb 2013 OP
monmouth3 Feb 2013 #1
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #2
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #3
HappyMe Feb 2013 #4
Voice for Peace Feb 2013 #12
HappyMe Feb 2013 #14
Voice for Peace Feb 2013 #41
ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #5
Paladin Feb 2013 #6
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #8
HangOnKids Feb 2013 #21
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #28
Paladin Feb 2013 #30
HangOnKids Feb 2013 #48
Paladin Feb 2013 #58
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #36
LanternWaste Feb 2013 #45
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #49
HangOnKids Feb 2013 #52
LanternWaste Feb 2013 #53
Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #7
loyalsister Feb 2013 #9
LeftInTX Feb 2013 #54
HERVEPA Feb 2013 #10
ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #13
AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #31
ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #62
AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #64
ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #66
midwest irish Feb 2013 #11
HangOnKids Feb 2013 #24
midwest irish Feb 2013 #35
livetohike Feb 2013 #27
EC Feb 2013 #15
6000eliot Feb 2013 #16
Enrique Feb 2013 #22
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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:10 PM

1. It was made for SNL and it was funny as hell. Sorry, we all knew Rube was in over his head from

the get-go, the slide down for the water bottle and the expression on his face confirmed. He's a doofus child in a grown-up world.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:12 PM

2. Not that my heart is breaking for the Republicans,

but the insane priorities of the media often hurt the Democrats

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:13 PM

3. He should be grateful that people are focused on the water and not his lousy speech.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:14 PM

4. It was funny as hell.

It isn't as if what he had to say was a complete surprise. They are the same damn talking points which get hashed out all the time.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:20 PM

12. completely unrelated

as I was about to shut down my laptop I noticed your
hair on fire character running back and forth, and
wondered if that keeps happening even when my
computer goes to sleep.. and .. now my computer
can't get back to sleep for wondering about it.

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:23 PM

14. lol!



Tell your computer that my little hair afire guy does keep running back and forth no matter what.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:11 PM

41. he's the reason the laptop keeps overheating, methinks

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:14 PM

5. It stood out so much because what he was saying wasn't standing out at all. eom

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:15 PM

6. No Apologies For Using What's Available Against Political Enemies.


Howard Dean's presidential efforts were ended by one spirited holler. Why should we cut the Repubs any slack for Rubio's goofy, flop sweaty, water-reaching performance?

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Response to Paladin (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:17 PM

8. What happened to Dean was beyond disgraceful,

and two wrongs don't make a right...

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Response to HomerRamone (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:27 PM

21. Gee you now seem real upset about the Rubio Water Treatment

Thanks for your insight

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:37 PM

28. Thanks for your snideness

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Response to HomerRamone (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:38 PM

30. Yeah, I Anticipated Such A Response.


That whole "two wrongs don't make a right" thing hasn't worked for me in a long time, not in the context of competitive politics. If we are unwilling to get down in the muck and fight our political foes, we basically deserve what we get. The right wing in this country relies upon and takes continuous advantage of liberals who refuse to "get down on their level," because "two wrongs don't make a right." The stakes are simply too high for us to restrain ourselves on the basis of play-nice rules which were discarded years ago by our opponents. If you are not willing to fight hard and dirty for what you believe in, then stand aside and let the rest of us do what needs to be done.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #30)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:18 PM

48. You Rock!

The two wrongs argument is such a sad and tired canard. Thank you!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #48)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:52 PM

58. My Pleasure. (nt)

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Response to HomerRamone (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:46 PM

36. Rule number one of politics: There's no such thing as a clean fight.

I have no compunctions against tearing Rubio down - he brought this on himself.

It's not our fault he didn't adequately prepare, try making his speech in front of a mirror, have a speaking coach give him some advice like "Don't drink your water in the middle of a speech."

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Response to HomerRamone (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:15 PM

45. two contrasting bumper-stickers both pretending to be valid thought...

"and two wrongs don't make a right..." but yet we "fight fire with fire"

Hard to know what to do when surrounded by two contrasting bumper-stickers both pretending to be valid thought.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:21 PM

49. It is possible to believe in the first

and also the second UP TO A POINT. What's your "valid thought"?

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Response to HomerRamone (Reply #49)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:37 PM

53. My only valid thought is that it's difficult to take bumper-stickers seriously

My only valid thought is that it's difficult to take bumper-stickers seriously, as with those who choose to use them, and rationalize them as actual thought.

...up to a point, you see.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:15 PM

7. I agree. It's like the Dean scream

Better to focus on the stupid and hypocritical things he said.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:17 PM

9. I do

I take a medication that makes me thirsty. I always have water with me. Especially when I speak publicly. It's a ridiculous controversy.

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Response to loyalsister (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:37 PM

54. I've got the same problem

But I still think it's funny. It was the way it was executed. The water was out of reach. He knows it's going to be awkward, he doesn't know how to execute this eloquently. It ends up looking like something out of a cheesy stand up routine.

His mouth was very dry by the way. That part wasn't funny.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:17 PM

10. Not me. I think it's funny as hell.

Any chance to make fun of them is great. Any chance to derail Rubio is great.
This isn't a tea party. It's a war with victims (mainly poor and women).

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Response to HERVEPA (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:21 PM

13. I laffed my ass off as soon as it happened. eom

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:39 PM

31. No one coached him about



What to do on Television, obviously. Those who run the Republican party, haven't a clue, about how to behave on TV. Reaching nearly off camera for a bottle of water was a huge blunder, because it made him look awkward and unprofessional. Also, people will long forget the speech he made, but they will remember this moment.. Not because he needed a drink of water, but he had to go clear outside the box to get one. If you are going to drink, you have to look good doing it.

This all reminded me of something Chevy Chase would do, to get a few laughs, only with him, it would have been a full fall on his face kind of moment. Rubio didn't fall on his face, but as far as Television etiquette, he certainly did. It was unexpected, and not only that the expression in his face, was like the kid being caught grabbing cookies out of the cookie jar. HE KNEW he messed up! He knew it was awkward and I bet you it will never happen again.


Rubio: "Note to self, don't act foolish on TV" Lesson learned.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:50 PM

62. "If you are going to drink, you have to look good doing it." Absolutely, ma'am. I

joked immediately after that that was some Cary Grant move he made there for the drink of water:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2363351

And what he should have done instead:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2363566

It was fun too watching Twitter and the internet tubes light up faster than you can say "Rubio".


And let me take this opportunity, AsahinaKimi, to say how much I enjoy your posts. And that one with the blizzard pics the other was especially fun!

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Response to ChisolmTrailDem (Reply #62)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:07 AM

64. Oh hey thanks...

I was almost expecting him to do a full out Chevy Chase..and fall over the table reaching for it..That would have been classic.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #64)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:24 AM

66. Haha, classic indeed! Thankfully it was just awkward enough to make him famous for it, lol. eom

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:19 PM

11. Good thing about the water

 

The good thing is that style matters. Jindal got blasted a few years ago when he looked awkward in that SOTU rebuttal. That ended his chances and he WAS the next big star. No one remembers the words said (try to think of one sentence uttered by Rubio) but people remember the style and what they saw. This was the problem with Obama's first debate (he looked sluggish). This was the problem with Nixon v Kennedy. This is what people will remember and it means the Republicans have one less tool in their tool kit.

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:32 PM

24. Are the Repubs Gonna Bring Up Water boarding Again?

They have no tools but thanks for your ardent consideration. So happy you mentioned Obama looked sluggish, but he slugged the shit out of Romney didn't he?

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:45 PM

35. "but he slugged the shit out of Romney didn't he?"

 

Yeah, Obama destroyed Romney in the next two debates, thankfully. It was almost comical how bad Romney looked compared to the President. The consensus was that if you just listened to the first debate, Obama did well but those who watched it felt the other way. When Nixon debated Kennedy his gross, sweaty, jaundiced faced turned a lot of people away.

Although I dont think republicans have any possibilities to win nationally any time soon, I dont want to take any chances because of 2000 and 2004. Anytime they shoot themselves in the foot (the water drinking and face swatting of Rubio and their civil war with the tea party) it helps us out. Rubio will be remembered for messing up his big moment when he was to be formally revealed to the country. His awkward hand gestures and drinking is the legacy of that moment. Republicans now have to resort to plan B. This is a good thing.

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:36 PM

27. Welcome to DU!

I was going to post something similar. It is what people will remember. Rubio's big national exposure went down the drain.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:23 PM

15. People who dry up that badly

do it because they are being insincere and the words are sticking in their throats. It happened to Paul Ryan at the debate too...remember him guzzling water?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:24 PM

16. How often does the SOTU rebuttal get press like this?

He's getting talked about way more than if he hadn't taken his big gulp. Also, for me the moment signifies how unready for the world stage this particular politician is.

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Response to 6000eliot (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:30 PM

22. +1

what in the world would anyone have to say about Rubio were it not for that moment?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:25 PM

17. OK

I just watched it and didn't think it was that bad, but the water should have been closer to where he was speaking and maybe it should have been in a glass. Other than that, I got nothin'.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:26 PM

18. Nope.

"and were he a Dem people here would be saying so..."

Nice try, but, yet again, nope.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:26 PM

19. The "savior" made a fool of himself.

And that's good if you're hoping that they become a permanent minority.

It doesn't matter if it was funny or not.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:27 PM

20. Drink of water...teleprompter.....this is who we are now

Republicans have made fun of Obama for years for using a teleprompter knowing damn good and well that it standard practice.......So i see this drink of water business as more of the same.

It is stupid, and silly, and completely irrelevant in every way......

But this is who we are these days.

Not proud of it, but it is hard to deny....

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:31 PM

23. Boehner also took a few sips as Obama was talking, and Boehner wasn't even speaking.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:34 PM

25. Its was pretty sad, but we shouldn't go 'grammar nazi' over it n/t

 

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:35 PM

26. It wasn't the water that was funny

it was his facial expression and movements. He looks like a kid caught doing something he shouldn't.









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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:37 PM

29. i'm just glad it happened to a republican for a change.

usually they reserve this kind of superficial, silly smear for democrats.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:40 PM

32. haha, Yes! It looked like an SNL skit, a good one.

I thought it was SO funny. I laugh every time I think of it.

Besides, they're so irrelevant these days, who cares what he was saying? It was just more of the same crap that lost them the election in 2012. They're idiots and it seems they will continue to be. I think that point is coming across loud and clear in the media today. So why not enjoy the funny?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:40 PM

33. It wasn't the drinking; it was the awkward lunge

The water's seven feet to your left, and you're on camera, live. Do you just work up some spit and deal with it, or do you hurl yourselv across the room for that bottle of water?

Rubio chose poorly.

That said, I don't think it's goofy enough to overshadow the SOTU.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:42 PM

34. I thought it was humorous because it came across as amateurish flopsweat

on Rubio's part, undermining his (and the GOP's) credibility.

But, yeah, too much is being made of it, imo.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:47 PM

37. I think all the focus on it is just weird.


But there you go.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 02:48 PM

38. I thought the mouth licking was kind of funny.

But I don't really see why it should be so hilarious, no.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:05 PM

39. It's not about funny. It's about Rubio being a not-ready-for-prime-time politician.

The moment I saw that lurch to the water with his eyes on the camera, I knew he was dead meat. Something was transmitted through the airwaves that spoke louder than his pitiful lies. Lies such as still living in the same old neighborhood, poor thing. Yet he just put that house on the market for $650,000! He's a crook who lived off his campaign money, and moralizes with the best of the hypocrites. The look in his eyes as he went for the water bottle betrayed him more than words could do. Anyone who wasn't a hack would have said, "Excuse me," walked over to the water, taken a drink, and gone on. He made it way more than that. It was more that inelegant, more than awkward ... it was creepy.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:07 PM

40. It's the water-drinking in a 15-minute speech, when the President went almost four times that

without a break.

There were also the weird hand gestures and the flopsweat.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:12 PM

42. Sorry it's a funny video!

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:13 PM

43. I think it was oddly funny, and I also think there hasn't really been much of a fuss...

I think it was oddly funny, and I also think there hasn't really been much of a fuss...

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:15 PM

44. Yes. I have no idea what all the fuss is about.

He got thirsty. He drank. He was nervous.

So fucking what?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:15 PM

46. yes and yes

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:16 PM

47. No I thought it was hilarious.

Been laughing about it all day!

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:22 PM

50. It's just not the water, a little before.................

he grabbed for the water, he was wiping away spittle from the corners of his mouth.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:23 PM

51. nope

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:40 PM

55. If it wasn't for the occasional humor, real or imagined, politics would be even more disgusting.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:48 PM

56. Krugman would agree: Marco Rubio Has Learned Nothing (government's role in the housing crisis)

Because his party has learned nothing.

OK, back up: this morning the papers and the web are full of nuance-sniffing, as people try to find omens in the SOTU and the GOP response. I donít think I can add anything useful to all that. But there was one important point in Marco Rubioís remarks that I donít think has been highlighted. Itís true, as Andy Rosenthal says, that Rubio mainly reminded us that Republicans donít like government or taxes; surprise! But he also reminded us that Republicans donít like reality.

Hereís the passage:

This idea Ė that our problems were caused by a government that was too small Ė itís just not true. In fact, a major cause of our recent downturn was a housing crisis created by reckless government policies.


This really isnít about the GSEs, itís about the BSEs ó the Blame Someone Else crowd. Faced with overwhelming, catastrophic evidence that their faith in unregulated financial markets was wrong, they have responded by rewriting history to defend their prejudices.

This strikes me as a bigger deal than whether Rubio slurped his water; he and his party are now committed to the belief that their pre-crisis doctrine was perfect, that there are no lessons from the worst financial crisis in three generations except that we should have even less regulation. And given another shot at power, theyíll test that thesis by giving the bankers a chance to do it all over again.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/marco-rubio-has-learned-nothing/

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:48 PM

57. Rubio, as a politican, does not mean to do well by me, as a person.

So I will laugh at whatever I want to.
He is an opportunistic and entitled-feeling liar, and I think this water thing is lucky for him because it may humanize him to some.
But not to me, I live in Florida.
Rubio has ventured outside his Jeb-built bubble, and found that the world outside is as harsh and unforgiving to him as the GOP is towards the poor.
He will get lots more mileage out of this as he scurries around the media.
In my opinion, fussing about the fuss is misplaced.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:53 PM

59. Definitely a 'who gives a shit' moment, but...

I admit, I finally watched it and it was pretty damn funny.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:55 PM

60. Nope. Taking a mere sip of water is grounds for ridicule.


That's how it is now.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:57 PM

61. Rubio and Ryan just might have diabetes. We have no idea. But that is a symptom I think

 

Excessive fluids may or may not be the sign of something.

Maybe Rubio knows he isn't going to be on the national ticket, so maybe he wants to broaden his image to do a Sarah.

We have no idea.

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:56 PM

63. No.

Anything to make fun of repukes and show their "heroes" up to be completely incompetent dickheads is fine by me.

Plus the fucker lied constantly in his "speech".

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:10 AM

65. To me it wasn't the water, it was the REAACH for the water

that was funny

That said, I'm surprised it became as big a deal as it did. I guess in our age anything can become a "trending topic."

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 12:46 AM

67. I am sorry, but it was ridiculous!

Yes, I laughed. It was really the look on his face as he was trying to sneak it. It should have been within easy reach of him, and he should have just taken a drink. He was thirsty. But, it certainly was funny. How could he think the camera was not on him at all times?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 06:04 AM

68. agree totally. infantile. on a level with 'the dean scream' and all similar attentions to

 

politician's personalities and personal quirks rather than their backers and their policies.

encourages people to view politics in terms of personalities and to attack people at a junior high school level -- because they wear funny shoes, have big noses, don't know not to drink water during speeches, and similar irrelevant stuff.

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