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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:08 AM

Can someone answer a simple question about Dorner for me?

Why, if the LAPD is so desperate to neutralize this threat to their existence...why, if he is the greatest threat to the LAPD and its culture of corruption since, oh, A SHITLOAD OF BOOKS AND A FEW MOVIES AND GENERAL PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE, hasn't Dorner simply dropped a massive dossier off at FBI and DOJ headquarters, made a few long phone calls, a few videos loaded with names and evidence (psst - most phones can even do it in HD, for the love of Mike), and otherwise set out on a path to publicly name and shame the entire force?

He wrote A FUCKING MANIFESTO WITH AS MANY REFERENCES TO CHARLIE SHEEN AND MIA FARROW AS REFERENCES TO ACTIONABLE WRONGDOING BY SPECIFIC MEMBERS OF LAPD. If you had info that could bring down a criminal institution and you were writing the words the world would remember you by, would you waste five goddamned fucking seconds writing, "Itís kind of sad I wonít be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III"??????

Here's what I think: the whole LAPD-as-desperate-to-silence-Dorner is a stupid canard from weak minds bored with what is currently in cinemas. The dashing hero whom so many would love to picture narrowly eluding cops with scads of sensitive documents on thumb drives is really nothing more than a psychotic cowardly fucking murderer sad that he might not get to see a third helping of dick and fart jokes.

YouTube, Reddit, Tumblr, Blogspot, Google+, Facebook, Twitter: all places where a fugitive with information can expose anyone in the world without censorship. What, is Wikileaks too busy to take a call from Dorner? Kos not taking any new registrants? Is the ACLU suddenly DesiLu?

Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are: narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous, delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear. The only difference is that instead of kicking the tires at Fletcher Jones for fun, Dorner KILLS people. He has nothing to say, or he'd be saying it.

("Hi, Farrar, Straus, and Giroux? My name is, um, Dristopher Corner. I'm calling from a secure line. I have an expose of the LAPD that will blow the doors off the place. I expose corruption, racism, brutality, the whole nine yards. It's huge. I'm looking for a deal. I have a 20-page treatment already, with PLENTY of refs to celebs - real Q-list stuff....oh, you have a editor just for exposes on the LAPD? Sure, I'll hold.")

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Reply Can someone answer a simple question about Dorner for me? (Original post)
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 OP
ellisonz Feb 2013 #1
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #3
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #2
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #4
GObamaGO Feb 2013 #5
MrScorpio Feb 2013 #23
davidn3600 Feb 2013 #6
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #7
dkf Feb 2013 #11
Make7 Feb 2013 #8
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #9
jberryhill Feb 2013 #10
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #12
jberryhill Feb 2013 #15
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #16
jberryhill Feb 2013 #18
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #21
jberryhill Feb 2013 #25
GObamaGO Feb 2013 #34
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #37
jberryhill Feb 2013 #44
rightsideout Feb 2013 #13
lame54 Feb 2013 #14
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #17
slackmaster Feb 2013 #19
flamingdem Feb 2013 #20
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #22
Johonny Feb 2013 #24
slackmaster Feb 2013 #29
GObamaGO Feb 2013 #28
bernynhel Feb 2013 #26
liberalmuse Feb 2013 #27
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #30
ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #32
KamaAina Feb 2013 #42
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #46
GObamaGO Feb 2013 #35
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #39
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #40
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #41
2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #31
RandiFan1290 Feb 2013 #33
EOTE Feb 2013 #36
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #38
zappaman Feb 2013 #43
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #45

Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:10 AM

1. This is a simple question?

Could you please restate it in a short sentence?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:12 AM

3. LOL!

...ah...sorry...

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:11 AM

2. Welcome to DU!

 

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:13 AM

4. The man murdered people so he is bad in my book.

The LAPD has many problems that should be looked into. The two opinions can exist.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:16 AM

5. The ideas that Dorner is an evil murderer

and that the LAPD is corrupt to its core are not mutually exclusive ideas.

Those ideas having been expressed, I am far more afraid of law enforcement harming me while he is at large and I am out and about, than I am of him harming me.

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Response to GObamaGO (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:14 AM

23. Damn Skippy. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:30 AM

6. It's not exactly breaking news that the LAPD is corrupt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:32 AM

7. All of Dorner's allegations are already on record

The notion that he has some smoking gun testimony to give is ludicrous.

Dorner's allegations are on record in his Board of Rights proceedings, his subsequent appeal, his FB screed, and whatever was on the disc he sent to Anderson Cooper (likely a rehash).

If I understand it right, the idea is that he went through his BoR withholding secrets that could bolster his case and then waited more years to finally spew 11,000 words on the subject--but still withheld secrets?

I think we're in CT territory here.

The overkill incidents with LAPD cops are cited as an attempt to silence him "for what he knows." Like cops never reacted like that toward cop-killers.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:08 AM

11. The point being he isn't the source of a whole lot of info on police brutality.

 

He has one case, where he tackled the schizophrenic Gettler, Evans tased him and the only dispute is if there was one, three, or no kicks in addition.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:41 AM

8. "Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are:"

 
Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are: narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous, delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear.

I didn't realize most people in Southern California are like that. What an eye opener!

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Response to Make7 (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:44 AM

9. Gag me with a spoon!



From a Valley Boy well before they they came up with those terms.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:54 AM

10. Pretty much, except for the broad brush smear of SoCal folks


But, yeah, he's like the guys storing ammo & dried food and waiting for the SHTF, RAHOWA, whatever crusade they believe gives them an excuse to kill people and feel justified about it.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:09 AM

12. You mean we're not all "narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous...

... delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear"?

Why, when I get off the slopes I've a mind to come over and have one of my employees thrash the person who said that!

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:28 AM

15. Oh, wait, it said "most" people in Socal

As long as it didn't say "all", that's fine.

I met someone in Culver City a couole of years ago who was okay.

He might have moved, though.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:44 AM

16. I knew that guy. He had an unfortunate accident at his coffee enemateurist's.

Culver City just isn't the same without him. R.I.P.

Anyhoo...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:06 AM

18. You know....


You're not helping your case by demonstrating your knowledge that there is actually a word for a person who does that.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:28 AM

21. What? You don't have a personal coffee enemateurist?

You're on shaky ground here, cuz. I'm beginning to re-think our friendship.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:39 PM

25. With friends like you, who needs enemas?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:47 PM

34. This exchange just made me snort my tea!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:01 PM

37. LOL

You guys are hilarious

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:30 PM

44. Don't forget to tip your waiter!

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:57 AM

13. His Marketing Skills aren't as good as his Marksmanship Skills

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:03 AM

14. You want us to answer your rhetorical question?...

By the way - this is also rhetorical

you don't have to answer it

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 09:48 AM

17. Easy there Turbo... I LIVE in Big Bear.

Other than what you said about hanging out in Big Bear, your opinion is SPOT ON. Anyone with half a brain knows LAPD's history and Murderin' Christopher had five years to tell the world.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:09 AM

19. That's one major fucked-up stereotype you're peddling, Dreamer.

 

"...the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are: narcissistic, celebrity-obsessed, vain, self-righteous, delusional, Facebook-centric, and hanging out at Big Bear."

I suspect you rely too heavily on your television for information about the world.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:20 AM

20. Here's a documentary about Southern Californians

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:01 AM

22. Actually, I rely on my multiple years as a SoCal resident, thanks.

Go walk around the Beverly Center, South Coast Plaza, Calabasas, or the Grove,
and get back to me.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 11:36 AM

24. because the vast majority of SoCal can afford to regularly shop at those high end places



The climate of the Grove and South Coast Plaza are totally different.

My finding in life are people where ever I lived are about as vain, self-centered and interested in celebrities. It is just their taste in fashion and who they consider a celebrity that is different. To think the people of SoCal are some how magically different than anywhere else is laughably naive. Sorry but it is true. I've been in third world villages seeing women as obsessed with fashion and make-up as the would be starlets of Hollywood. The world and its people simple are not so different as we pretend they are.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:02 PM

29. I live in South Park and work in La Jolla

 

Both perfectly nice places with decent people.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:00 PM

28. Thank you!

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:47 PM

26. Is someone freezing their ass off in the NE (or anywhere else) really just jealous of us in So Ca?

Me thinks it so.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:53 PM

27. Because he's cray cray?

Seriously. He knocks "Anonymous" but they don't kill people in cold blood, do they, now? I have to agree with some of his screed on popular entertainers. He's obviously up on menial celebrity gossip. OMG, did I just out myself as a Dorner supporter?

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:15 PM

30. Delete this post which insults all SoCal residents - before it gets deleted for you.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:35 PM

32. Unfortunately, it will probably stand...

just like all the nasty posts about the South

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Response to ScreamingMeemie (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:25 PM

42. Here in Northern California

we often call SoCal "the South". Truth.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:39 PM

46. And here in Southern California we refer to Northern California as....

well nothing....we don't really think or talk about them

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:49 PM

35. Apparently we are all vain, narcissistic millionaires

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:06 PM

39. I said "most" not "all." nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #39)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:11 PM

40. "Most" is equally insulting and offensive. Where's your apology?

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #40)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:12 PM

41. I don't owe one. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:34 PM

31. rinse, repeat

same ol, same ol.

Got anything new?

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:44 PM

33. And you complain about "South bashing"

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:54 PM

36. Nah, they're not desperate the kill Dorner.

Shooting 90 bullets into random trucks is just SOP for the LAPD. And pulling people over, letting them go and then ramming their vehicle and shooting them is SOP too. Nah, the LAPD are TOTALLY cool, they're just following the book on this case. Every single person in the LA area is on edge because they DON'T believe a member of the LAPD is going to shoot them without a moment's notice. Are you for real?

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:03 PM

38. "Face it, folks, the guy is pretty much what most people in SoCal are"

So you're saying we're all pretty much Chris Dorners here in SoCal?

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:27 PM

43. Aye yi yi

I did not know Dorner and I had so much in common!
Well, besides me not being a murderous fucking lunatic...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #43)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:31 PM

45. We are all murderous lunatics apparently

Maybe that's why the LAPD is pumping loads of bullets into innocent people's trucks.

Maybe those women delivering newspapers weren't so innocent after all, at least according to the OP.

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