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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:09 AM

Something weird just occurred to me about the Dorner case.....

Ok, so he killed two people in Irvine (Orange County) and one person in Riverside (Riverside County). He tried to hijack a boat in San Diego County, and burned his car in San Bernardino County.

Other than inserting themselves into the case for publicity and to exact vengeance on a former LAPD officer who accuses them of wrongdoing, what the hell is LA City or LA County or LAPD doing getting involved in this case???????

It's not their jurisdiction.

They REALLY need him to be dead, I think. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

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Reply Something weird just occurred to me about the Dorner case..... (Original post)
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 OP
niyad Feb 2013 #1
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #6
niyad Feb 2013 #10
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #13
juajen Feb 2013 #2
Raine1967 Feb 2013 #3
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #9
Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #4
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #11
Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #16
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #18
Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #19
GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #24
snappyturtle Feb 2013 #5
LisaL Feb 2013 #7
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #12
JI7 Feb 2013 #8
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #14
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #15
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #17
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #20
GObamaGO Feb 2013 #21
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #22
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #23
JI7 Feb 2013 #25
liberalmuse Feb 2013 #26
JuniperLea Feb 2013 #27
janlyn Feb 2013 #28

Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:11 AM

1. "hot pursuit"?? maybe??

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:18 AM

6. Well, but there was never a hot pursuit of him from any crime scene,

at least not one in the City of Los Angeles.

It's weird. But fits with the idea that they need to get rid of him because he knows a bit too much about their dirty policies.

They obviously have a dog in this fight. I just can't quite figure out which one (so to speak).

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:20 AM

10. from the VERY little bit I have seen about this case, "weird" is the mildest word for it.

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Response to niyad (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:26 AM

13. I guess we're sort of used to big police drama here.

Remember, this is the land of White Ford Bronco Slow Speed Pursuits with Football Stars Involved.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:13 AM

2. Very interesting point!

I will be watching this carefully. Something does seem a tad off, plus a one million dollar reward?

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:15 AM

3. That is interesting.

The LAPD decided to bring him up on charges -- I hadn't thought about this.

Is it really accurate to say that these murders occurred outside of LAPD jurisdiction?

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:20 AM

9. If I'm not mistaken, none of the murders were on LAPD turf, which is

limited to the City of Los Angeles.

They are meddling in Irvine's business. And Orange County Sheriff's Dept and Irvine PD have been absolutely mute through the whole thing.

Riverside indicted him today. Los Angeles can't indict him for squat.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:15 AM

4. I'd kinda like him to be dead myself.

Which is probably the only thing I have in common with the LAPD.

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Response to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:22 AM

11. I'd kinda like to see him afforded due process just like anyone else

in this country.

I believe he killed those people. He did a grievous wrong.

That doesn't excuse misconduct now or in the past by LAPD, and we shouldn't give them a pass on that sort of thing ANY MORE.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:33 AM

16. I'm not a jury

so I don't have to wait to weigh the evidence. I get to decide whether I think he's social chum or whether he is a burgeoning folk hero. Because my predilection has no bearing on his fate.

So 1) I think he's guilty. and 2) I think the world is better off without him in it.

I am perfectly comfortable with this.

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Response to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:41 AM

18. Well thank you so very much for injecting your personal opinion as to his

innocence or guilt into my thread about LAPD's behavior and misconduct.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:51 AM

19. I am fairly certain

That your opinion was not significantly diluted by my own. To the extant that your larger point suffered, well, you have my humblest apologies.

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Response to Shivering Jemmy (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:02 PM

24. Quite the hero ...

just so long as there's no risk to you personally.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:16 AM

5. I heard tonight on MSNBC (Ed Schultz, I think) that the LAPD is now sending

out SWAT teams to follow up leads.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:18 AM

7. He was fired from LAPD.

According to his manifesto, other LAPD members might be his targets.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:23 AM

12. I guess that's why the flap. Because they sure don't have any

other legitimate reason to be involved.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:18 AM

8. he was LAPD and has threatened LAPD , i don't think it's unusual

for larger police organizations to get involved in certain cases like this.



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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:27 AM

14. It could be something that comes about because of the California Law Enforcement Mutual Aid Plan.

As far as I can see there are 5 counties involved; Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Los Angeles. The first four are involved because of incidents that occurred within those counties, and Los Angeles I'm assuming because of the overt threats to its officers made in his "manifesto". While there are two Operational Areas involved, the Plan allows for cross-boundary assistance.

The Plan also blurs the jurisdiction.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:XsgbUeLwFNkJ:www.calema.ca.gov/LawEnforcement/Pages/BlueBook%2520%2520Revision%2520dy.2009.pdf+California+Law+Enforcement+Mutual+Aid+Plan&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjAN85KXGXyuMCXVW4bij0w5GIz7Hp8qV6-wChd-ml7CnEYn361ONYGW7QF2q6_Vr0HtoOle_kxDWBkyOCwmgOnCvLNv9gd43YN_Qt3sTgcsJ0oe_J65K-ND55Mn5Q8KJ5SnAyK&sig=AHIEtbTFd6klm8VCLY3GBOGZWNY4sTmE0Q

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:32 AM

15. That makes sense. But I still think their emotional

involvement is a bit unseemly. They are unable to conduct themselves as calm, rational professionals where he is concerned.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:39 AM

17. I get your point.

Things have seemed to calm down a little though. At least they're not shooting at Hispanic women and surfer dudes in trucks.

On a lighter note, some locals up here saw the video footage of Dorner buying the diving equipment that was shown on KNBC earlier today and are now claiming he's hiding in the lake.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:13 AM

20. The cop wounded in Corona was LAPD, working a protective detail for a targeted LAPD Captain

After that, there could be no doubt that his threats to LAPD were serious.

His FB screed threatened all LAPD cops and their families. And that went beyond his threats to specific LAPD targets.

His first two murders occurred in Irvine, but the victims were the daughter of a specific LAPD (retired) target involved in his LAPD Board of Rights case and her fiance.

Why shouldn't LAPD be involved?

And his ambush of two Riverside cops (one KIA, one WIA) went even beyond the more than 10,000 cops that were his targets--indicating his unpredictability.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:22 AM

21. I have been thinking that all along

It makes no sense.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:50 AM

22. The OC murders include the child of a LAPD Captain and his manifesto targets the LAPD

officers and their families.
So they are involved.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 03:12 AM

23. Here's another weird thing: Wasn't the young woman's fiancee a cop, too?

I could swear I saw pictures of him in uniform, but they never say he was a cop. Was he?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #23)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:34 PM

25. he graduated from the police academy just last summer but he was working as security for USC

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:36 PM

26. Bizzare case.

This sounds callous, and it's not meant to be considering the loss of life and people whose lives have been devastated by this madness, but my little brain will have to wait for the "Rolling Stone" article to come out before I understand it all. That being said, even my little brain doesn't understand why the LAPD wants in. My sorry guess would be testosterone, brotherhood and revenge.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:40 PM

27. Umm... maybe because his manifesto pokes at the LAPD?

Just a wild hair up my ass guess, but when some nutjob starts screaming about LAPD, and names a few by name, I'm pretty sure that makes this their business.

That this needs explained is a huge concern, seriously.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 06:46 PM

28. little to know coverage..

Of the 2 vehicles that were open fired on for being similar vehicles.according to what little coverage there has been neither of the two vehicles occupants were given any warning what so ever!!! And the last time I checked, even someone who is presumed as guilty, still has the right to due process

I sure hope those people who were fired upon sue the pants off of th PD'S involved.

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