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kpete

(71,980 posts)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:38 PM Feb 2013

Ex-Rep. Joe Walsh: I Can’t Afford Child Support Payments

Ex-Rep. Joe Walsh: I Can’t Afford Child Support Payments

IGOR BOBIC 6:13 PM EST, MONDAY FEBRUARY 11, 2013

Former Rep. and Tea Party darling Joe Walsh has filed a request in Cook County Circuit Court to cease paying child support payments because he is no longer employed, the Chicago Sun-Times reported on Monday:

In a Feb. 1 court filing entitled “motion to terminate child support obligation,” Walsh’s attorneys asked to change his support requirement, which under a previous agreement, was to continue until May.

“Joe’s employment has been terminated through no voluntary act of his own and he is without sufficient income or assets with which to continue to pay his support obligation,” the filing states. “Due to substantial change of circumstances, Joe requests that his child support obligation be terminated based on his present income and circumstances.”

At one point, the filing asks to amend his payments to be equal to 20 percent of his income — which presumably is 20 percent of zero.


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Ex-Rep. Joe Walsh: I Can’t Afford Child Support Payments (Original Post) kpete Feb 2013 OP
Good God man! Grab those bootstraps and pull yourself up! ( n/t ) Make7 Feb 2013 #1
But he is mythology Feb 2013 #26
Is that a legitimate excuse in Illinois? DollarBillHines Feb 2013 #2
Where I live laundry_queen Feb 2013 #27
How about people who are laid off? blueamy66 Feb 2013 #30
Oh it's YOU again. laundry_queen Feb 2013 #32
Go do some laundry. blueamy66 Feb 2013 #34
I've had this conversation with you before. laundry_queen Feb 2013 #35
^== This. GREAT answer. IdaBriggs Feb 2013 #42
+1 obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #40
Does the child stop needing food then? Shelter? Medical care? obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #39
It's like that in the US, too obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #38
Does it vary by state? laundry_queen Feb 2013 #41
Then he needs to take any job treestar Feb 2013 #3
Yeah, right blueamy66 Feb 2013 #31
I don't think Family Court will let him get away with no payments at all treestar Feb 2013 #43
I didn't think he was paying to begin with. Terra Alta Feb 2013 #4
No pity for him. At all. madamesilverspurs Feb 2013 #5
I'm one of those parents you mentioned tavalon Feb 2013 #19
So we're supposed to subsidize this deadbeat irresponsible parent? yardwork Feb 2013 #6
If he can't, pay jail him. Then bill him for his incarceration. Damned if the taxpayer will foot Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #7
bingo!!! rurallib Feb 2013 #14
Thanks for the welcome! :) Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #25
Man, can the tea party pick some losers, or what? sadbear Feb 2013 #8
Ha! He lost his job through no voluntary act of his own (except for his extremist nutjob positions). LonePirate Feb 2013 #9
I would say being a nasty, loud mouthed asshole was a totally voluntary act. Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #18
Does the mother get to do that, too? So the children will become homeless orphans? Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #10
There are lots of laid-off people who have Ilsa Feb 2013 #11
Exactly. He needs to be working 29 hours a week at Papa John's n/t arcane1 Feb 2013 #13
Sounds like Joe needs a dose of "personal responsibility" right about now arcane1 Feb 2013 #12
don't they get a pension for the rest of their life? n/t pepperbear Feb 2013 #15
I certain only if you serve for a decade or more. JRLeft Feb 2013 #16
I believe it takes five years before one is vested in their plan. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2013 #45
I do not get this at all tavalon Feb 2013 #17
The only way he paid his child support through 2012 was with taxpayer money! 0rganism Feb 2013 #20
from what I remember, he wasn't paying even then. niyad Feb 2013 #21
= loser underpants Feb 2013 #22
didnt his ex wife and kids stand next to him during most of the 2012 election lunasun Feb 2013 #23
God, WHAT a loser. Zoeisright Feb 2013 #24
. theKed Feb 2013 #28
Get a job, asshole ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #29
YOU LIE!!! Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #33
“Joe’s employment has been terminated through no voluntary act of his own" ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #36
As Judge Judy says obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #37
I hear WalMart needs greeters, what's the arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #44
 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
26. But he is
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:29 AM
Feb 2013

Of course those bootstraps are attached to the boots he's metaphorically kicking his kids with.

As a 15 year old kid my dad told me that he had a bottle of champagne in the fridge for when I turned 18 and his child support payments would stop. So Walsh can go clean a portopottie with his toothbrush for all I care.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
27. Where I live
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:36 AM
Feb 2013

(not in the US BTW) you can't just quit your job and then ask for support payments to be some percentage of your non-existent salary. The judge will take into account how long you've worked, what your average salary was, what the local unemployment rate is etc. I have a few friends whose ex's tried to go from 6 figure salaries to pumping gas to claim poverty so they didn't have to pay, and the judges never fell for it. (My ex once threatened the same thing.)

Plus, if some deadbeat decides not to pay, his wages get guarnished. If he refuses to pay still, (quits, tries serial jobs to stay a step ahead of the judge) his driver's license gets taken away. Somehow, the law has to make it NOT worth it for a non-custodial parent to skip out on their obligations.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
30. How about people who are laid off?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 04:11 AM
Feb 2013

Should their drivers licenses be yanked as well? Cause that will really help them get a new job. Or how about those that are so sick that they can't work anymore? Oh yeah....let's garnish the hell outta them too!

And it really makes sense to garnish support against the big, fat $200 a week in unemployment one gets in AZ. That way one can't afford gas or rent or food.

Sensible adults should be able to come to sensible agreements...which includes not putting either parent into the poor house.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
35. I've had this conversation with you before.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:27 AM
Feb 2013

We know you're bitter that your husband has kids from a previous marriage. Don't take it out on them.

So, let's just pretend I've never explained this to you before....

If someone is laid off and getting unemployment benefits, then they pay the same percentage as before. If the ex was getting 50% of the salary, then they are now getting 50% of the benefits. Now, judges here take this on a case by case basis. If a spouse is ill and on disability, then the ex gets a percentage of that too. The reasons are: the children need to be looked after and if the parents were still together, that money would be going towards the kids, and that kids shouldn't suffer because of the split. I looked it up and they are even more strict than I thought - if someone refuses to pay they can:

•Garnish income tax refunds, GST rebates, Canada Pension Plan income, and Employment Insurance payments;
•The debtor may have his or her driver’s licence, registration, licence plates, or abstracts restricted or suspended;
•Recreational licences for fishing and hunting may be restricted;
•Passports can be revoked;
•Failure to make child support payments may be registered as bad debt and affect credit;

They can also seize assets or prevent a remortgaging. There can also be fines etc.

Keep in mind, that if someone loses their job not of their own doing, support payments will be adjusted accordingly. However, it's on a case-by-case basis with each judge, but all support payments have to follow federal guidelines. If someone quits simply to avoid paying payments, the judges generally can tell and will not take it lightly.

Go do some laundry - LOL, you're so original.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
42. ^== This. GREAT answer.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:51 AM
Feb 2013

No sympathy for a girlfriend of a guy with kids. Kids *ALWAYS* come first. You pick a man with a previous life, prepare to be second class for the rest of yours. (And the same goes with the sexes reversed.)

obamanut2012

(26,063 posts)
39. Does the child stop needing food then? Shelter? Medical care?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:35 AM
Feb 2013

Why does the other parent have to take up the slack?

They don't.

Oh, wait. It's YOU again. You don't agree with child support payments.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
41. Does it vary by state?
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:46 AM
Feb 2013

I was under the impression states varied widely on this issue but I definitely could be wrong on that and am curious at how much it varies state to state. The thing with Canada is while it's technically a provincial thing, there are federal guidelines that must be followed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
3. Then he needs to take any job
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
Feb 2013

that he can get, that pays at least something, and the payments will be adjusted accordingly.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
43. I don't think Family Court will let him get away with no payments at all
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:48 PM
Feb 2013

There are going to attribute income to him if they think he is capable of earning it.

Terra Alta

(5,158 posts)
4. I didn't think he was paying to begin with.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:44 PM
Feb 2013

In any case, his deadbeat ass should either get a job, or go to jail.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
5. No pity for him. At all.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:53 PM
Feb 2013

I know way too many parents who bend over backwards to make sure their kids have enough -- enough food, clothing, school supplies, shoes, toys, medicines, roof over their head, heat in the furnace, love, encouragement, emotional support -- even those who are separated from their kids, they still make sure the children come first.

Walsh is one of the stereotypical good-old-boy deadbeats, blames his ex for all his own failings, thinks that supporting his offspring means she lives in luxury; thinks if he's out of the house he has no responsibility, that he shouldn't be required to meet his obligations.

Hey, asshole: Quit punishing your kids because you can't grow the hell up enough to take responsibility for your own life.


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tavalon

(27,985 posts)
19. I'm one of those parents you mentioned
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:29 PM
Feb 2013

I have no sympathy for this piece of shit who hasn't bothered to grow up and take personal responsibility.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
6. So we're supposed to subsidize this deadbeat irresponsible parent?
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:56 PM
Feb 2013

Such hypocrites Republicans are.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
7. If he can't, pay jail him. Then bill him for his incarceration. Damned if the taxpayer will foot
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:58 PM
Feb 2013

his bill. If he can't pay his jailing bill. Add more time, till he pays. This is his responsibility. Guess he shouldn't of had kids he couldn't afford.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
18. I would say being a nasty, loud mouthed asshole was a totally voluntary act.
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:28 PM
Feb 2013

He can get a job at McDonalds...oh wait...they wouldn't want him.

He knew his job as representative could be short or not permanent..so why wouldn't a responsible planner save for his unemployment? Yeah! The tea Party knows how to pick em. He should do what ever he preached all the other unemployed people do..and no food stamps.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. Does the mother get to do that, too? So the children will become homeless orphans?
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:21 PM
Feb 2013

If he wasn't able to provide for children, he should've kept his pants zipped.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
11. There are lots of laid-off people who have
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:48 PM
Feb 2013

To take whatever job they can get to feed their kids or just survive, Joe.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
45. I believe it takes five years before one is vested in their plan.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:26 PM
Feb 2013

Considering the big-mouthed rodent fornicator with anger-management issues only "served" one term, he's pretty-much S.O.L. on that score.

At that, two years is probably more than he'd last at a McDonald's. Can you imagine putting someone like him in a customer-contact position?

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
17. I do not get this at all
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:27 PM
Feb 2013

I am recently estranged from my husband. We aren't as of yet officially divorced. I willingly pay half of my paycheck for my (step)child as he has autism and has a lot of medical and dietary needs. If I had an official piece of paper, it would probably say I owe less than a quarter of that, and I would still pay what I'm paying. I do it because it's the right thing to do. I left my husband, not my child.

I'm aware that sometimes circumstances make support payments hard, but I have difficulty believing a congresscritter would qualify for that. He makes a heck of a lot more than I do.

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
20. The only way he paid his child support through 2012 was with taxpayer money!
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:32 PM
Feb 2013

What a hypocrite. 'Nuff said.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. didnt his ex wife and kids stand next to him during most of the 2012 election
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:06 AM
Feb 2013

calling Tammy Duckworth a liar etc. about the support issues?? He really threw them all under the bus once he didn't need them anymore for political eye candy

Bet he is pulling unemployment too whch would not be an issue if he didnt label people on it as unwilling to work and voted against extensions
Walsh has been married twice, and has five children!!

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
24. God, WHAT a loser.
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 12:08 AM
Feb 2013

How exactly are you feeding and sheltering yourself, you fetid pig? Whatever money you're using for that you can use to support your spawn.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
36. “Joe’s employment has been terminated through no voluntary act of his own"
Tue Feb 12, 2013, 10:29 AM
Feb 2013

snerk

I think thousands of constituents would disagree with that one, Joe...

Support Your Children.

arthritisR_US

(7,286 posts)
44. I hear WalMart needs greeters, what's the
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:54 PM
Feb 2013

problem Joe? Come on mate, you can't expect the oversized government to pay for your kids now, right?

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