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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:11 PM

The best explanation I've seen of why saving the Post Office is so important

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/48049/you-should-be-outraged-by-what-is-being-done-to-our-postal-service

by Dave Johnson

You are probably hearing that the Post Office is “in crisis” and is cutting back Saturday delivery, laying people off, closing offices, etc. Like so many other “crises” imposed on us lately, there is a lot to the story that you are not hearing from the “mainstream” media. (Please click that link.) The story of the intentional destruction of the US Postal Service is one more piece of the story of crisis-after-crisis, all manufactured to advance the strategic dismantling of our government and handing over the pieces to billionaires.

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Republicans have hamstrung the Postal Service, forcing it into “crisis” and are now “solving” the crisis by working towards dismantling and privatizing it. Here is how it works:
1.Require the Postal Service to “break even.” (Again: the Department of Defense is not required to break even.
2.Require them to serve all areas of the country. (Which is a service to democracy and should continue.)
3.Keep them from raising or lowering rates as needed.
4.Keep them from using their competitive advantages to compete with private businesses.
5.Require them to pre-fund 75 years of health benefits.
6.When the Postal Service has the inevitable resulting financial “crisis” complain about government and unions and demand their buildings be sold, employees laid off and the service be dismantled and given to private companies.

If you don’t see the pattern yet, try this:
1.Cut taxes,
2.Double military spending,
3.Obstruct all efforts to fix things,
4.Wait a few years, then scream loudly about a “deficit crisis” and say we have to severely cut back on government — the things we do to make our lives better.

This is not the way an informed democracy is supposed to operate.

MORE: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dave-johnson/48049/you-should-be-outraged-by-what-is-being-done-to-our-postal-service

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HomerRamone Feb 2013 OP
Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #1
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #4
Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #2
HomerRamone Feb 2013 #3
Stargazer09 Feb 2013 #5
frazzled Feb 2013 #6
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #9
niyad Feb 2013 #7
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #8

Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:14 PM

1. So, saving the Post Office is important only to stick one to the GOP?

I think the OP's title is a bit misleading.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:20 PM

4. Where did you get that?

The importance is in stopping the privatization of everything. Democrats are not wholly innocent in this process...

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:19 PM

2. The best discussion of it I've heard was from Randi Rhodes

She spoke about all of the infrastruction that the post office has that the private sector is salivating to gain control of. Prime real estate, the largest vehicle fleet in the country, etc.

I don't want to only have UPS and FedEx as my choices. Her advice: try to use USPS whenever possible!

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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:24 PM

5. I love our postal service

I belong to an international forum that discusses goods being shipped from the US to other countries. Mind you, these are relatively small items that are part of a craft subscription, with a new surprise package being sent out every other month. Not worth a huge amount of money, just something fun for the recipients.

It often takes weeks, sometimes even months, for people in other countries to receive their packages, and it's not due to extended delivery times. It's due to customs. The packages get stuck there, and somebody eventually decides how much to charge the recipient for their mail. Sometimes, customs lets the package get delivered without fees. Sometimes, an identical package gets levied a fee that's more than the value of the package. If the customs people are feeling lazy, there are no punishments for them. Just unhappy customers waiting for their mail.

When I order items from other countries, the postal service delivers it without delays, without holding it for ransom, and without any hassles.

What's not to love?

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:27 PM

6. The USPS is important to save because of its service

I have a post office branch two blocks from my home, so I use it frequently. Its Priority Mail service is still the best way, imo, to mail a package reliably and cheaply. They can also sell me stamps, packing materials (aside from the free priority and express boxes and envelope mailers), have a nice assortment of greeting cards, and will give me cash back on a debit card. At the larger branches that are not very much farther, they have passport application centers and other services.

I love the older ladies who work at my P.O.: they're smart, efficient, and friendly. It's nice to chat with them. I can send a package from Chicago to Southern California for under $8 and be assured it will always arrive within 2 days.

Go to your local FedEx location (usually connected with a Kinko's) and there are rude teenagers there who don't always know what they're doing, and you'll be hard pressed to understand why the fee is so high.

I propose that to "save" the Postal Service we start a campaign urging the big Internet shippers like Amazon to send a certain amount of their shipments via USPS instead of UPS. There's no reason why the postal service can't get some of that business. A few years ago I ordered 60 yards of upholstery fabric from a small business in North Carolina, and they sent this huge, heavy 5-foot-long package via the US Postal Service; it arrived beautifully and on time at our upholsterer's shop.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:05 PM

9. Truly a modern miracle of massive system design and efficiency. n/t

 

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:40 PM

7. k and r

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Response to HomerRamone (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 02:56 PM

8. One of the very few great things left in America and they want to destroy that, too. K&R

 

I insist on USPS delivery when I buy online.

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