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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:42 AM

US Killed Hundreds of Children in Afghanistan, Says New Report -- US Rejects Report


AlterNet / By Alex Kane

US Killed Hundreds of Children in Afghanistan, Says New Report -- US Rejects Report
A United Nations committee says the US military is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of children in Afghanistan over the past four years.

February 11, 2013 |


A United Nations committee has accused the United States government of being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of children in Afghanistan over the past four years. But the committee’s report was quickly rejected by the U.S.

The UN Committee on the Rights of the Child reported that it was “alarmed” by reports that hundreds of children died as a result of the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan because of a “reported lack of precautionary measures and indiscriminate use of force,” the Los Angeles Times reported over the weekend. The UN report also condemned the arrest and detention of children in Afghanistan.

But the U.S. military said “the reports were unsubstantiated and cited figures from the U.N. Assistance Mission in Afghanistan showing that the vast majority of civilian deaths and injuries in Afghanistan over the last several years were caused by insurgents.”

In response to the UN report, Human Rights Watch called on the U.S. to “promptly carry out the recommendations of a United Nations committee of experts to improve protection of children abroad from armed conflict.” ................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-killed-hundreds-children-afghanistan-says-new-report-us-rejects-report



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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:46 AM

1. Which UN figures are correct? Find out tonight...

... on "Inkblot DU: Bias Confirmation in Action!!"

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:50 AM

2. Yes. The death of children is always a laughing matter

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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:57 AM

3. they both are correct

just look at the wording

One of them counts the deaths from "the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan"

Thus, it counts the deaths caused by insurgents as also part of the "US led war".

"But the U.S. military said “the reports were unsubstantiated and cited figures from the U.N. Assistance Mission in Afghanistan showing that the vast majority of civilian deaths and injuries in Afghanistan over the last several years were caused by insurgents.”

Clearly if the US would just get the fuck out, then all those children could live happily ever after under the Taliban.


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Response to Robb (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:00 PM

4. What would be an acceptable number for children killed and maimed

in their own country?

For me, it's 0. I'm sure if this was in the U.S. you'd agree.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:05 PM

5. Afghanistan confirms UN report on children deaths in US operations

Inconvenient truths and inconvenient timing for Obama's drone push.

Afghanistan confirms UN report on children deaths in US operations
By MEENA HASEEB - 09 Feb 2013, 9:42 am

The government of Afghanistan confirmed UN report regarding children deaths and said civilians casualties during NATO troops operations specifically US troops has been one of the controversial issues during the past ten years.

Presidential palace spokesman Aimal Faizi in an interview with the Radio Free Europe (RFE) said, “We agree with the UN report and confirm that innocent kids have been killed during coalition forces operations specifically US troops operations during the past ten years.”

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In the meantime presidential palace spokesman Aimal Faizi said war against terrorism was not properly done which has led to civilians and children casualties.

Civilians casualties has been one of the main controversial issue between the Afghan government and coalition security forces. President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly criticized civilians deaths and called on coalition forces to take strict measures for the immunity of civilians during the operations.

http://www.khaama.com/afghanistan-confirm-un-report-on-children-deaths-in-us-operations-1348



The UN committee on the Rights of the Child has reported that hundreds of Afghan kids have been killed by US air strikes since 2008. The report also says many others have also been detained. The report has now become a hot debate here in Afghanistan. The US military did not want the Afghans know about this. Therefore they quickly denied that their attacks caused these deaths.

But the report has raised concerns in Kabul. Emal Faizi is the spokesperson for President Karzai. He has admitted that children are the main victims of the U.S led conflict. He has also called on the US to avoid harm to civilians. Other right groups also have the same demand.

It was mostly drone attacks that have reportedly caused these deaths. Last year, Washington launched 447 drone strikes in this country and most of them hit residential areas. But the U-S is still refusing to stop these strikes.

US forces are now leaving Afghan villages and prefer to stay inside their major military bases here. They are planning to limit their ground operations and rely much more on drone attacks instead. So it is very hard to expect a decrease in civilian deaths in this war ravaged country in coming months.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/02/11/288458/usled-foreign-forces-reject-un-report-over-killings-of-afghan-kids/

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:09 PM

6. Oh, don't be silly. Our military never, ever, kills children...except when they do.

And, they only carry guns as fashion accessories.

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy." Mohandas K. Gandhi

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:20 PM

7. ACLU: Obama Administration recently underwent its first U.N. treaty body review

U.S. Violating Human Rights of Children, Says U.N. Committee
By Allison Frankel, ACLU Human Rights Program at 11:41am

The Obama Administration recently underwent its first U.N. treaty body review, and the resulting concluding observations made public yesterday should be a cause for alarm
. The observations, issued by independent U.N. experts tasked with monitoring compliance with the international treaty on the rights of children in armed conflict (formally known as the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the involvement of children in armed conflict or "OPAC"), paint a dark picture of the treatment of juveniles by the U.S. military in Afghanistan: one where hundreds of children have been killed in attacks and air strikes by U.S. military forces, and those responsible for the killings have not been held to account even as the number of children killed doubled from 2010 to 2011; where children under 18 languish in detention facilities without access to legal or full humanitarian assistance, or adequate resources to aid in their recovery and reintegration as required under international law. Some children were abused in U.S. detention facilities, and others are faced with the prospect of torture and ill-treatment if they are transferred to Afghan custody.

By ratifying OPAC in 2002, the U.S. committed to guaranteeing basic protections to children in armed conflict zones, and to submit periodic reports on the implementation of its treaty obligations to the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child. We wrote about the latest U.S. report, released in November, which revealed that over 200 children have been held in U.S. custody in Afghanistan since 2008, some for lengthy periods of time. During its review of the U.S. on January 16, the Committee posed critical questions about the treatment of children by the U.S. military and issued recommendations to remedy these human rights violations.

These recommendations include taking "concrete and firm precautionary measures to prevent indiscriminate use of force" particularly against children, and ensuring all allegations of unlawful use of force are "investigated in a transparent, timely and independent manner" and that "children and families victims of attacks and air strikes do always receive redress and compensation." In regard to the detention of juveniles, the Committee urged the U.S. to ensure that all children under 18 are detained separately from adults and guaranteed access to free and independent legal assistance as well as an independent complaints mechanism. Importantly, considering the previous U.S. response to the Committee revealed that the average age of children detained by U.S. forces is only 16 years old and the average length of stay for juveniles in U.S. military custody has been approximately one year, the Committee recommended children be detained only "as measures of last resort and for the shortest possible period of time and that in all cases alternatives to detention are given priority."

The Committee also stressed that allegations of torture and other forms of mistreatment must be investigated and the perpetrators brought to justice, and that no child should be transferred to Afghan custody if "there are substantial grounds for the danger of being subject to torture and ill treatment." The Committee specifically mentioned the case of Omar Kadr, a former child soldier who was detained by U.S. forces at the age of 15 and was subjected to torture and a systematic program of harsh and highly coercive interrogations at the American prisons at Guantánamo Bay and Bagram.

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http://www.aclu.org/blog/human-rights/us-violating-human-rights-children-says-un-committee



Cue the racist apologia that their children are not like our children.

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:29 PM

8. Makes you wonder who the real evil empire is.

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Response to Initech (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:27 PM

9. Depends what the meaning of is is

Perpetual peace by perpetual war

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:28 PM

10. So tell me again ...who is the real gun nut? n/t

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:32 PM

11. "It was mostly drone attacks that have reportedly caused these deaths."

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 01:35 PM

12. these prolifers need to pay for these lies and murders

 

They need to be shamed for what they have done.

We need to Shame them every day until they apologize for what they have done.


And Obama? End this war now! End all the bullshit wars and drones now! Why are we continuing anything Bush has done?

Why are we still spending double the pentagon budget when Bush took office? with the wars supposedly over(almost over) ?

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