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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:57 AM

 

Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez lifetime winner. Charlie Sheen lately Losing.

I love Martin Sheen (born Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez)

What a handful his son Charlie is, don't you think?

Martin a man of peace

Charlie backing a mass killer with no concern for life, and for peace.

Charlie- LOSING.
(and edited to note- Charlie's stock phrase in the biz is "Winning". Sorry Charlie, don't think you are winning lately.

but bless Martin Sheen.
Fathers lives are tough sometimes, that's for sure.

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Reply Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez lifetime winner. Charlie Sheen lately Losing. (Original post)
graham4anything Feb 2013 OP
Enrique Feb 2013 #1
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #4
graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #8
graham4anything Feb 2013 #9
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #2
graham4anything Feb 2013 #5
SQUEE Feb 2013 #10
graham4anything Feb 2013 #15
SQUEE Feb 2013 #16
graham4anything Feb 2013 #17
SQUEE Feb 2013 #3
monmouth3 Feb 2013 #7
Sheldon Cooper Feb 2013 #11
patricia92243 Feb 2013 #12
eShirl Feb 2013 #14
CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #13

Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:00 AM

1. what's Emilio

chopped liver?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:22 AM

4. ...

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:28 AM

6. Martin Sheen should have won the Oscar for this movie.

 

btw, Speaking of Brando, remember when Johnny Depp could act, back when he and Brando were in a movie together. Depp is such a characture of himself now, how many Pirate movies has he made?
When was the last time he actually acted? He is stuck in the Robert DeNiro syndrome.
One movie the same as the last 20.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:15 AM

8. It nearly killed him

Talk about putting your heart into a role.

And speaking of Depp, he was in 'Platoon' with Charlie Sheen.

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Response to pinboy3niner (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:25 AM

9. Yeah, I remember Martin's heart attack. Put everything into that role.

 

And yeah, Platoon, odd that both Charlie and Depp are now more celebs than actors, and both were great actors.
charlie likes publicity, Johnny has a persona that doesn't, however, he does, like yesterday introducing an act on the Grammy's.(yes, I know he is a musician too).

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:16 AM

2. You know, Martin is a very good man, and as such he would not feel he is winning while his son

is losing. In that regard, this OP does not bless Martin, it exploits his name and his family, and this is not blessing nor is it affection.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:24 AM

5. Charlie Sheen is known for the phrase WINNING. Losing is the opposite of Winning.

 

and officially, this is being labeled now an act of terrorism, as it should be.

Maybe it would be correct that
Martin Sheen is a winner
Charlie Sheen is a misguided loser.
One doesn't back a mass murderer even if he has severe mental health problems and if I were on the jury, I would rule not guilty by reason of insanity.

but what he is doing is indeed wrong. You don't kill people and think its a good thing.
That is real zimmerman thinking

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:57 AM

10. Again with the rhetoric..

He is not a mass murderer, he is definitely a terrorist (but not for the reasons you believe) being that the objective is political in nature and this is an attempt to wage an asymmetrical campaign.
And Zimmerman? he was a bumbling fool and not anymore relevant to this discussion than Stephen Jones.

He is not insane, he can tell right from wrong, and is still lucid, organized in his thinking. He is just values his "honor" and idea of himself more than his or other peoples lives. Evil fits him more than insane.

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Response to SQUEE (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:18 AM

15. Actually, when one kills more than 2, that makes it a mass murderer. (and serial killer).

 

actally, he is the personification of the character Harry Chapin wrote/sang about for his play
"The night that made America Famous" in the song "Battlefield Bummer" (aka just "Bummer").
(c) Harry Chapin
"and just like the man from the precienct said
put him away, better kill him instead
a bummer like that is better off dead
some day they're gonna have to put a bullet, in his head"


Zimmerman was NOT a bumbling fool. He was a cold calculated asssassin, coward style, stalking and shooting someone just to watch him die for his perceived being what zimmerman hated.
Zimmerman is relevant, because if he gets off free, he will do it again and again and again.

the rest is your opinion, happy to read it.

Stephen jones is a conspiracy theorist, who gladly should be forever mocked.

And this is though akin to the person who stalked shot and killed the doctor in a church.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:38 AM

16. Stephen Jones is a random name from my desk...You meant Alex perhaps?

Not mass murder, which actually implies military or political body.
nor a serial killer, not even a spree killer, though that would most likely be the closest.

As for your characterization of Zimmy, well, you should write for True Crime. Examine the evidence, an idiot with false courage and misplaced sense of authority. He violated so many tenants of safe carry, and let himself get in an avoidable situation. All else is hyperbole and rhetoric. The law will decide and we can judge as soon as we have all the facts whether manslaughter(my vote) or murder, or even not guilty.

And as for Chapin's song, you have again crated an idealized and overblown characterization of a bad actor based on media hype, you know the un trusted and lying CORPORATE media.

there are 3 things with this guy, he is really an efficient and disciplined urban guerrilla, or his sorry ass is dead in the snow, OR he has just had enough luck to get by, and LAPD and EVERYONE ELSE is over-thinking his skills and martial acumen.

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Response to SQUEE (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:43 AM

17. Alex yes.

 

I just wrongly assumed you were talking about conspiracy theorist loon Alex Jones.

the doctor killer took weeks to be aprehended
and Ted K. though tamer, took years

(not to mention OBL himself took 10 years and a whole new administration to bring to justice).

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:22 AM

3. how exactly is he backing a "mass killer"

Using the guys obvious interest in him, he mentioned him in his manifesto, to appeal to him?
Now Charlie is indeed a piece of work, and we do not know his motives, but I do not see him wearing a "go Dorner go" shirt

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Response to SQUEE (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:09 AM

7. I agree with you. When he told the guy "call me" I got the impression it was to

talk him down.

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Response to SQUEE (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:03 AM

11. Exactly.

Dorner favorably mentioned Charlie Sheen by name in his manifesto. It seems very unlikely that Dorner would respond to Sheen's overture, but what if he did? It's a very remote possibility, but if it worked, that would be great. If it doesn't work, no harm done. But because he reached out, he's now 'backing' Dorner? Jeez the hyperbole around here.

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Response to SQUEE (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:08 AM

12. That is certainly the way that I understood what Charlie Sheen was saying.

I thought he was trying to be helpful in any way he could.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:11 AM

14. Perhaps he was even asked to do this by the people hunting for Dorner.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 10:09 AM

13. Charlie Sheen has a movie coming out. This is nothing but bullshit PR

Keeping his name in the news no matter how bad it makes him look.

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