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Sat Feb 9, 2013, 07:36 PM

‘Suicide Conservatives’

There used to be a political truism: Democrats fall in love, while Republicans fall in line.

That’s no longer true. Not in this moment. Democrats have learned to fall in love and fall in line. Republicans are just falling apart.

Last week, the opening salvos were launched in a very public and very nasty civil war between establishment Republicans and Tea Party supporters when it was reported that Karl Rove was backing a new group, the Conservative Victory Project, to counter the Tea Party’s selection of loopy congressional candidates who lose in general elections.

The Tea Party was having none of it. It sees Rove’s group as a brazen attack on the Tea Party movement, which it is. Rove sees winning as a practical matter. The Tea Party counts victory in layers of philosophical purity.

Politico reported this week that an unnamed “senior Republican operative” said that one of the party’s biggest problems was “ ‘suicide conservatives, who would rather lose elections than win seats with moderates.’ ”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/opinion/blow-suicide-conservatives.html?src=me&ref=general

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meow2u3 Feb 2013 OP
Isoldeblue Feb 2013 #1
creon Feb 2013 #2
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creon Feb 2013 #4
BainsBane Feb 2013 #5
unblock Feb 2013 #8
marions ghost Feb 2013 #7
KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #6

Response to meow2u3 (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 07:41 PM

1. They sound like Kamikaze pilots...



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Response to meow2u3 (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 07:44 PM

2. Overdone

I do not think that the GOP is falling apart. It may make some people happy to think that it is; but, I doubt it.

Almost half the American electorate reliably votes GOP; and, much of the South is safe GOP.

It remains strong at the state level.

I think,on most issues, the GOP is quite wrong. But, almost half the country does not think so.

I think that the GOP will regroup and remain a major political force.

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Response to creon (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 07:58 PM

3. i think almost half the country is there for the republicans' picking.

almost half the country wants to vote republican.
close to 30% would do so enthusiastically if they ran atilla the hun.
another 10% would hold their nose and vote for them anyway.
the remaining 10% is theirs to lose if they keep running the whackadoodle nutjobs.

most of the republicans i talk to are in that last 10%. why they can't just give up on the republicans i have no idea.

but unfortunately i have to agree, all they need to do is some small amount of housecleaning, some rebranding, and they're back in business.

as usual.

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Response to unblock (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:07 AM

4. correct

I think that your post is !00% correct.

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Response to unblock (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:09 AM

5. fewer and fewer all the time

Only 32% of Americans now identify themselves as Republican.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:50 AM

8. yeah but there are a lot of self-identified "independents" who always vote republican

they're just too embarrassed to admit that they're really republicans.

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Response to unblock (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:45 AM

7. brand loyalty

gotta stick with the team.

We have so few bonding experiences in this culture. Your sports team, your religion, your political party give some semblance of community. But that experience is always us vs them.

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Response to meow2u3 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:32 AM

6. Hmmm...What's A Corupt Rushpublican To Do???

On one side you've got Rover and all his big money buddies who will throw money at you if you play their tune. Or...you have the teabaggers who now play gatekeeper in the primaries in a lot of states...piss them off and face a challenger, real ugly campaign and a good chance of losing.

I'm pretty certain we'll see a lot of these slimeballs pretend to be rabid teabaggers while taking Rove's money...selling out the baggers in the end. The fun will be watching them all dance around...wearing each other out and making it easier for Democrats to beat them in 2014...

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