Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:31 PM
cleanhippie (14,481 posts)
LA Catholic archdiocese considering “massive” fundraiser to pay for child-rape settlementsWho doesn’t want to pony up big dollars to bail out the financially-troubled archdiocese after their reported $660 million settlement with 562 victims of sexual abuse by Catholic priests? It’s for a good cause, right?
Sure, the archdiocese appears to have ignored reports of potential pedophile priests. And the Catholic church overall still hasn’t fessed up to its crimes. And sure, some Catholic leaders blames the kids. And they some cardinals attack the victims outright. But who could possibly feel like they’re funding the sins of the church when they hand over money to an organization that has consistently lied and obstructed authorities from finding out the truth about the systematic rape of children? I mean sure, there’s that little issue of the Catholic church even being involved in modern-day slavery and holding firm on bigotry, but besides that, they’re really a great bunch of people once you get to know them, and hand them all your money so that they don’t have to feel the pain of their sins. Just because the LA archdiocese is still holding back on providing the full details of their decades of child rape doesn’t mean that they haven’t learned any lessons from their severe failings. I mean, who hasn’t helped to cover up rape, especially the rape of children? Catholic priest in handcuffs pedophilia sex abuse child Remind me again why anyone gives the Catholic church money these days for anything, let alone to help the church minimize the damage from its horrific sins on this matter? http://americablog.com/2013/02/los-angeles-catholic-archidiocese-fundraiser-child-abuse.html This story goes well beyond just the religious viewpoint. This is criminal behavior, and they now want to get others to pay for it.
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| cleanhippie | Feb 2013 | OP | |
| Moonwalk | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
| dlwickham | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
| cleanhippie | Feb 2013 | #4 | |
| RKP5637 | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
| Walk away | Feb 2013 | #27 | |
| Moonwalk | Feb 2013 | #28 | |
| Tierra_y_Libertad | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
| LAGC | Feb 2013 | #6 | |
| cleanhippie | Feb 2013 | #8 | |
| libtodeath | Feb 2013 | #12 | |
| RKP5637 | Feb 2013 | #7 | |
| Squinch | Feb 2013 | #9 | |
| liberal_at_heart | Feb 2013 | #11 | |
| Squinch | Feb 2013 | #13 | |
| liberal_at_heart | Feb 2013 | #10 | |
| dballance | Feb 2013 | #14 | |
| cleanhippie | Feb 2013 | #17 | |
| dballance | Feb 2013 | #18 | |
| AngryOldDem | Feb 2013 | #19 | |
| dballance | Feb 2013 | #20 | |
| WinkyDink | Feb 2013 | #15 | |
| TeamPooka | Feb 2013 | #16 | |
| DreamGypsy | Feb 2013 | #21 | |
| muriel_volestrangler | Feb 2013 | #23 | |
| cherokeeprogressive | Feb 2013 | #22 | |
| BainsBane | Feb 2013 | #24 | |
| Wounded Bear | Feb 2013 | #25 | |
| peacebird | Feb 2013 | #26 | |
| mulsh | Feb 2013 | #29 |
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:45 PM
Moonwalk (1,245 posts)
1. Will they hold a bake sale?
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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:49 PM
dlwickham (732 posts)
2. I was hoping lap dances
Response to dlwickham (Reply #2)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:59 PM
cleanhippie (14,481 posts)
4. Thats a side gig the nuns are running.
Response to Moonwalk (Reply #1)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:16 AM
Walk away (4,593 posts)
27. Nope! It's back to the Middle Ages and selling Graces!
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Buying Graces is coming back! This way the child raping church can pay it's way out of it's earthly problems and your average catholic can pay off their sins pre-death and without that pesky penance. Skip purgatory and go straight to heaven!
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Response to Walk away (Reply #27)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:53 AM
Moonwalk (1,245 posts)
28. You're Right! Go for the Classics...
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It's so retro, it's hip.
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:54 PM
Tierra_y_Libertad (36,269 posts)
3. If they were a bank they could get a Get Out of Jail Free card and a bailout for their crimes.
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:02 PM
LAGC (4,540 posts)
6. Disgusting.
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Can this church sink any lower?
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Response to LAGC (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:06 PM
cleanhippie (14,481 posts)
8. It could, but the people that support it keep it afloat.
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Seems like at some point, some of the blame needs to get shifted to them.
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Response to LAGC (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:16 PM
libtodeath (1,081 posts)
12. Mhy thoughts too and we all get to support it because they pay no taxes
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:05 PM
RKP5637 (25,592 posts)
7. They could have a kissing booth and the upper echelons could give one a
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French kiss!
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:10 PM
Squinch (3,055 posts)
9. OK, but I still like the "nuns on the bus" smacking Paul Ryan around.
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You have to give them that one.
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Response to Squinch (Reply #9)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:15 PM
liberal_at_heart (3,603 posts)
11. I did love the nuns on the bus
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Some American nuns came under fire from the Vatican for being too Americanized and not being strict enough.
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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #11)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:17 PM
Squinch (3,055 posts)
13. Very true. And THAT made me like them all the more.
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:14 PM
liberal_at_heart (3,603 posts)
10. could we dunk them or shove a pie in their face or how about shoot an apple off their head?
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:32 PM
dballance (3,731 posts)
14. If Anyone Gives Them Money for This They're STUPID
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It's not like this is some one-off little parish that's not affiliated with any national or international organization. Not that I'd suggest giving any one-off organization or church donations to settle their sex-crimes civil suits either.
No, this is an Archdiocese of THE Catholic Church which aided and abetted the sex abuse crimes. If they have a lack of funds there are hundreds of thousands of their brethren in other Archdiocese they should turn to. Oh, and there is this whole big place in Rome called Vatican City. I'm pretty sure it's sitting on billions of its loyal follower's donated money, donated assets and billions in property and classical art. The Archdiocese should seek funding from the Church to pay for what has been rather convincingly proven to be a conspiracy, worthy of RICO charges, by the Church to cover up the sex abuse and confound law enforcement and the courts in their efforts to get to the bottom of it. I whole-heartedly agree with the statement: "Remind me again why anyone gives the Catholic church money these days for anything, let alone to help the church minimize the damage from its horrific sins on this matter?" |
Response to dballance (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:18 PM
cleanhippie (14,481 posts)
17. The same might be said about those that give them money on Sunday's too.
Response to cleanhippie (Reply #17)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:21 PM
dballance (3,731 posts)
18. Agreed 100%. And could be said of many, if not most, tithing to religious organizations. /nt
Response to dballance (Reply #14)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:31 PM
AngryOldDem (8,784 posts)
19. For a long time I stopped giving, period.
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The archdiocese gets a cut of the collection plate, and people have no say in how the money is spent. So parishioners have been subsizing lawsuits and payouts and God knows what else for years. Meanwhile, individual parishes' finances are a nightmare...I've seen pleas in bulletins about the astronomical light bill...please help.
Now...for them to solicit funds to help pay for a situation they aided and abetted for decades...now that takes some balls. But rest assured, they'll raise some money from those still clueless folks who still blame the victims, see a huge conspiracy against the Church, and think all priests are Christ's little brothers. One of the many reasons why I walked away from this "faith" years ago. |
Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #19)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:47 PM
dballance (3,731 posts)
20. The Sad Thing Is They'll Probably Raise That Money on the Backs of...
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the poor and the elderly. I know what I'm about to say is a broad brush and is not representative of all the poor and elderly. That said.
As my title says they'll probably raise a lot of the donations on the backs of the poor and elderly. These groups, which tend to overlap somewhat, are often uninformed or misinformed because of lack of access to objective reporting. So they, in my opinion, have a higher likelihood of being duped by the archdiocese. I'm betting the nice older grandmothers who've been with the church forever will be giving to the archdiocese because the priests are really "such good men of God" and it's unlikely anything would stop them. |
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:33 PM
WinkyDink (37,064 posts)
15. Can't the Vatican help them out here?
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:14 PM
TeamPooka (3,293 posts)
16. Call it Priestapalooza.
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:44 PM
DreamGypsy (1,122 posts)
21. Anybody want to buy a cathedral? ... cheap. Only $660 million...
Includes the usual amenities of a religious structure: a gift shop, cafeteria, and parking ($16.00/hour); a dolphin show in the Gateway Wall and Pool at 10am, 1pm, and 4pm Tuesday-Sunday; a miniature train ride through the Chapel of the Blessed Sacrament; and, best of all, a huge organ:
Serious inquiries should be sent to ![]() |
Response to DreamGypsy (Reply #21)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:02 AM
muriel_volestrangler (65,341 posts)
23. The Diocese of Orange, which comes under the Archdiocese of LA, bought a cathedral for $58m in 2011
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/crystal-cathedral-to-become-catholic-church_n_1631224.html
So they had cash around just a couple of years ago. |
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:48 PM
cherokeeprogressive (14,959 posts)
22. Fuck them. Let them sell some of the eleventy bizillion dollars in real estate they own.
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I know a man who was abused by a priest as a child. He's wound tighter than a stretched rubber band. I don't think there is enough money in the world to make him right again.
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:02 AM
BainsBane (9,462 posts)
24. Who would give to that?
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No one, I hope.
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:05 AM
Wounded Bear (2,880 posts)
25. The Catholic Church is one of the ....
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biggest Trans-national Corporations going....
And they've been at it for centuries..... Just sayin'..... |
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:10 AM
peacebird (7,508 posts)
26. The Catholic church is filthy rich, let them sell a few of the masterpieces in the Vatican.
Response to cleanhippie (Original post)
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:00 PM
mulsh (1,904 posts)
29. "The third, fourth and possibly fifth collect in today's mass will be in support of
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the Archbishop's special fund."
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