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Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:43 AM

Christopher Dorner was "disturbed" and "twisted," former cop's ex-girlfriend says

Court documents show an ex-girlfriend of a former Los Angeles police officer suspected of three murders called him "severely emotionally and mentally disturbed" after the two split in 2006.

Documents obtained by The Associated Press on Friday show ex-officer Christopher Dorner unsuccessfully requested a restraining order against his ex-girlfriend after she posted his badge number on a website called Dontdatehimgirl.com.

In the posting, Ariana Williams calls Dorner "twisted" and "super paranoid" and warns other women on the website not to date him.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57568474/christopher-dorner-was-disturbed-and-twisted-former-cops-ex-girlfriend-says/

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Reply Christopher Dorner was "disturbed" and "twisted," former cop's ex-girlfriend says (Original post)
FarCenter Feb 2013 OP
randome Feb 2013 #1
2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #5
dkf Feb 2013 #6
randome Feb 2013 #7
bayareamike Feb 2013 #2
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #3
bayareamike Feb 2013 #4
warrior1 Feb 2013 #8
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #10
Lurks Often Feb 2013 #11
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #13
cali Feb 2013 #17
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #18
bayareamike Feb 2013 #16
randome Feb 2013 #12
HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #9
LisaL Feb 2013 #14
HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #19
Catherina Feb 2013 #15
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #20

Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:48 AM

1. Another muddled situation.

Dorner is likely to be as she describes him. It would certainly seem that way since he went on his killing spree.

OTOH, the LAPD is horribly run.

On what side do we come down on? Most everyone wants it to be one or the other. In this case, as in so many others, both 'sides' are to blame.

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:57 AM

5. I don't think an ex is the best source

Most people don't have nice things to say about an ex. Or they wouldn't be ex.

Her testimony isn't worth a thing.

Not saying it isn't true. Just saying she is the last source I would believe. I'm sure more will surface. What do his fellow marines have to say about him?

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:03 PM

6. She hasn't said a thing.

 

All they found was his TRO against her for posting info on a website...don't date him girl..warning others of his problems.

He attached her post to the TRO with a claim she was stalking him. I haven't seen the entire post, just snippets and phrases.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:06 PM

7. You're right in that she might have a motive and we should maintain at least a modicum of suspicion.

OTOH, her statements were made in, what, 2006? And they fit in now with Dorner's paranoia and murderous rampage. So it sounds to me like she had him pegged correctly.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:48 AM

2. But but but...I thought this was

about a good guy pushed over the edge! How could he possibly murder three people!

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:53 AM

3. We're all flawed. Fortunately, most of us are not tested to the breaking point...

I think I'd NEVER do what Dorner did. I also don't care to be tested to see if I'm right.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:56 AM

4. At worst, he was wrongfully terminated from

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his job. Big deal. I was laid off during the recession too. Sane people do not exact revenge by killing. The guy is deranged.

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:06 PM

8. but doesn't his actions now

pretty much confirm the gf account and why he was fired in the first place. He had some major problems. Being a cop wasn't a good fit for him. His outrage and killing far out ways the injustice he felt.

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:13 PM

10. Dorner found himself in a trap....

The more he pressed for what he thought was justice in his argument with the LAPD, the more extensive the paper trail became that he was "unstable" and therefore undesirable for future employment.

Most would have read the writing on the wall, walked away, and changed careers. Dorner kept digging until he snapped.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:39 PM

11. Changing careers would have been problematical for Dorner

Being terminated by LAPD for filing a false statement likely meant he wouldn't get a decent job anywhere.

If Dorner is telling the truth, LAPD screwed up his entire life.

I DO NOT condone what Dorner is doing, but do somewhat understand what is driving him at this point.

From his perspective: Imagine trying to do the right thing, playing by the rules and then having your life wrecked for doing so.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:44 PM

13. You and I take a "there but for the grace of dog go I" approach to judging others....

Seems most others don't

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:32 PM

17. and some of us have been tested.

I have. I chose to try and forgive- and primarily for myself. I can and do think "there but for the grace of whatever go I"- but not when it comes to killing. And yes, I even "snapped" under the strain. Even in a really fucked up state of mind I was far from physically attacking anyone or even fantasizing killing them.

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Response to cali (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:18 PM

18. Myself, I would never tempt fate with those kinds of statements....

Fate may say "Oh, so you think you were TESTED, huh? Try this..."

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:27 PM

16. Eh, sure it might've been difficult

but not anywhere near impossible. Even if he was wronged by the LAPD, the way he handled the situation indicates that he has some major issues.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:44 PM

12. He waited 2 weeks before making his charge.

And he made the charge the day after his partner asked that he be reassigned or something, I forget what exactly.

So it doesn't sound like he had some moral imperative to get off his chest.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:12 PM

9. Considering the things people say about ex's not really very credible,

and that must be put in context with his passing a psych screen around that same time in order to be fired as a rookie cop with LAPD in 2007. The LAPD screening apparently requires meeting with a psychologist.

I don't think the ex's armchair shrinking should be taken as gospel truth of his history of mental illness at that time.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:51 PM

14. Nice to know that LAPD screening works exceedingly well, in your opinion.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 06:31 PM

19. One of the things people don't acknowledge is that mental illness can happen at any age

Although it can have genetic and developmental components, it isn't really considered a birth defect, it certainly isn't yet possible to look at a person's genome, or even their protein expression as juveniles, and have any real idea about future problems involving cognition, emotion and/or behavior.

Dorner's manifesto names depression as a problem...without arguing about that, I'd merely point out that 50 percent of people who get depression get it AFTER age 33.5.

Another thing to realize is that Dorner has expressed vengeful embitterment. Embitterment (and vengence) are NOT symptoms of mental illness recognized by the American Psychological Association, even though post-traumatic embitterment is a diagnosis used in Germany. If you want to pursue that information google Micheal Linden Post-traumatic Embitterment.


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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:18 PM

15. How did CBS miss that she denied posting that when they re-arranged AP's article days later?

Maybe she did, maybe she didn't but for the moment she denies that and CBS conveniently left that out.

ORANGE (AP) — Court documents show an ex-girlfriend of a former Los Angeles police officer suspected of three murders called him “severely emotionally and mentally disturbed” after the two split seven years ago.

Documents obtained by The Associated Press on Friday show ex-officer Christopher Dorner unsuccessfully requested a restraining order against his ex-girlfriend, Ariana Williams, in 2006 after he claimed she posted his badge number on a website called Dontdatehimgirl.com and harassed him.

The posting is signed “anonymous” and calls Dorner “twisted” and “super paranoid.”

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Williams denied the allegations. Her attorney didn’t return a call or email Friday.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/02/08/dorners-ex-girlfriend-says-he-was-mentally-disturbed-twisted/

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Response to Catherina (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 06:33 PM

20. Good catch...

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