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Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:18 AM

JOHN BRENNAN AND THE “SO-CALLED” AMERICANS

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2013/02/john-brennans-cia-director-hearings-and-the-so-called-americans.html



“One of the problems is, once the drone program is so public, and one American is caught up, people don’t know much about this one ‘American citizen’—so called,” said Senator Dianne Feinstein, in her questioning of John Brennan, President Obama’s nominee for C.I.A. director, on Thursday. (John Cassidy has more on the hearing.) She was referring to Anwar al-Awlaki, who was killed by a drone strike in Yemen, in 2011, and was a “so-called” American because he was an American, born in New Mexico. “They don’t know what he’s been doing,” Feinstein continued. “They don’t know the incitement he has stirred up. I wonder if you could tell us a little bit about Mr. Awlaki and what he’s been doing.”

Brennan demurred at first, since the question was about an “operation.” Feinstein jumped in:

See, that’s the problem. When people hear “American,” they think someone who’s upstanding. And this man was not upstanding by a long shot.

BRENNAN: Yes.

FEINSTEIN: And maybe you cannot discuss it here, but I’ve read enough to know that he was a real problem.


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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:38 AM

1. 'Upstanding American' is now defined in secret.

I bet people who help Sen. Feinstein's husband make money off war are "upstanding" and people who bring that up in public are not.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:46 AM

3. +1

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:42 AM

2. Why does it matter that Anwar al-Awlaki was a US citizen? He was planning on killing US citizens.

Why does it matter that his son was a US citizen? He was meeting with people who were planning on killing US citizens. Nobody was in tears when Osama bin Laden was killed, but are up in arms all of a sudden when his heirs get the same treatment. Am I missing something here?

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Response to baldguy (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:53 AM

4. There are other people right in this administration that are planning to kill Americans.

Should they be killed?

And to answer your question you are missing a soul.

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Response to aandegoons (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:42 AM

8. Are you ready to condemn Clinton for bombing Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, and Serbia?

Kennedy & Johnson for bombing Vietnam? Truman for bombing Korea? Should ha have held off on Hiroshima & Nagasaki because there were a handful of Americans in those cities? FDR who killed 25,000 civilians in Dresden? Hell, even Carter funded, armed and trained mujaheddin terrorists in Afghanistan that spawned the Taliban and al Qaeda.

There will always be people in the world who are willing & eager to kill anonymous Americans. And there will always be places that will offer these people safe havens. You would have us ignore them & leave them alone. That's the kind of thinking which allowed 9/11 to happen.

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Response to baldguy (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:57 AM

6. Really. Can you give me a link to him meeting with people who were planning on killing US citizens?

No anonymous Admin officials allowed.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:56 AM

5. Dulce Et Decorum Est lll & A Taste of Armageddon



Dulce Et Decorum Est III & A Taste of Armageddon
(or the empire has no clothes but a disposition matrix)

by michael hall

In due homage to Horace, Owen and Mikhail i humbly nod
for how sweet & glorious it must be to kill or die for God & country by pompous duty with dishonor
so c'mon kiddies, any up for good jingo sport?
who’s hungry & poor, who wants to play the hubris 'anything for profit' killing game?

As effusively embedded newspapers rah rah their pied pier patriotism with journalistic integrity & objectivity ha ha!
as a new battle lies just around the corner & armed forces day just weeks away hooray!
rally loyal citizens to whitewash warm innocuous blood off disgraced musket & sullied polluted flag
strike up the marching parade manifested by destiny down main street usa hey hey!

Awaken & open thine eyes chauvinistic folk, come & see your overseas deeds of nefarious brutality
given that your liable for this appalling tax-paid violence you've exported to hamlets & villages on human beings
assaulting families who've never did you any harm in lands you've never heard of, nor care less for
so step on up, one & all, for everyone here is accountable & responsible for this odious debacle

Take a trip to the overflowing morgues filled with small smashed bodies, once were toddlers full of laughter & life
deeply inhale the rancid stench of scorched flesh crispy burnt to a black bubbly mass by phosphorus
gaze into doll dead eyes frozen forever by shock & awe renditioned via your God blessed terror raining down
from atop a cold gurney a stiff finger of a tiny hand amidst a pile of mangled flesh is pointing at you war supporters

Watch as grief-stricken fathers zombie-wander in shattered silence
sifting through ragged debris & devastating destruction searching for lost sons & missing daughters
discovering ripped wet mangled body parts strewn out as pieces of a human jig-saw puzzle
taking home the ear, the hand, the foot to be quietly buried while 6000 miles away 'heroes' giggle & dub this 'bugsplat'

Harken to the heart-piercing shrieks as soul-torn asunder mothers wail like howling wild animals
as they find their loves buried, broken & bloody in the rubble of your glorious works
then if you can, please explain to the unresponsive moaning neonatal orphan
why your armed forces just murdered his parents...by accident, then wave a condolence payment in his face

Celebrate as your special op-forces silently & quickly dig our bullets from civilian bodies
to cover their tracks from being at the wrong address...again
declare as a holiday murdered women at a bridal shower or when 4 kids are droned to smithereens while tending sheep
rejoice in exported evil exploits as great american victories for which your war crimes always are

Trust flim-flam, the PR propaganda spin from your MSM complicit mouthpiece
praise your taxes which finances anglo-terrorism through illegal & immoral aggressive violence
raise your false flag ever higher to cover the rising pile where the butchered lie
however dear good christian citizens, do not trust that any civic rag could ever soar over the sick slaying of the innocent

Consider Fallujha surrounded & caged, then the cowering cringing unarmed civilian inhabitants
shot, burned & barbequed like slaughtered sitting ducks in a ‘free-fire zone’ shooting gallery
ponder upon your sanctimonious attack at a school in Bajour where 69 children are massacred by joystick
this is Sand Creek, Wounded Knee, My Lai, Haditha, & other mass-media contorted & distorted great triumphs
which to no doubt in my mind, the next war crime called a ‘battle’ will be anointed too, of course, ta! ta!

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Response to michaelhanthala (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:16 PM

10. Welcome to DU

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:04 AM

7. Hmm. When I took the oath it ment something completely differrent.

Seems like Feinstein does not quite believe in America. I understand that is punishable by drone now. Wait she's not brown.


These people are truly evil.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:42 AM

9. “They don’t know the incitement he has stirred up."

I would argue the drones are stirring up a great deal of incitement. Brennan is a horror.

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