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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:51 PM

*** Update on manhunt for Dorner *** possible sighting, dog on trail, more:

(please note, writing this as it comes in, will post when there is enough to fully post about.) Search abandoned at this point except one cat heading to damn before returning -- as I was formatting this here they picked up some tracks, might be more to come....tracks heading west, see last entry

--White ford Taurus, tracks leading from it in the snow.

--Suspect wearing green (hooded I believe, a little garbled) jacket according to eye witness.

--Picking up tracking dog, en route to scene.

--One team at site of tracks, asking about whether to wait for backup.

(keep in mind there are multiple things going on across the scanner, so piecing it together - cars stuck in
snow, accidents, etc)


--Dog is now tracking, possible scent trail (7:09p est)

--Have snow cat take to next point marked (I think this is second dog, they had to pick one up earlier in snow
cat since officer was stuck) (7:11p est)

--Other officers a few minutes out from joining up (7:16p est)

--Officers blaring horn 3 times so others know they are there (7:30p est)

--Tracks going in a westerly direction, sending fresh officers up to relieve them soon with a dog (7:48p est)

(7:55p est Note - on twitter people saying search will resume in morning, but police are, as noted above, on
a trail and sending fresh officers to it. Also on twitter people saying tracks are not his - but those are
earlier tracks which I joked about in an earlier thread, not these ones)


--Sending 4 man and 6 man snow cat to camp site, dog has lost scent, lost visible track (8:08p est)

--Set second dog free at camp when he arrives, cedar lake camp - running against the clock now (8:09p est)

--Asked how everyone is holding up, believe they are half mile from cedar lake (rd) campground, will continue
walking in case something pops up. Wants them to wait to walk until cat gets there, but notes he has two cats
there. Keep themselves where they are and use cat for shelter till others arrive.

--How close are you? Maybe 15 minutes at most to get to them. They need to get cat down there for fuel, sending
empty 6 passenger to him (8:11p est)

On maps.google.com search on: camp near Cedar Lake Road, Big Bear Lake, CA

--Sending out bearcats to several locations, blvd & skyline, the dam, and one other location (a little garbled)
for containment
(8:17p est)

--Another officer heading to cedar lake, pulling up now to pick him up (8:19p est)

--You start searching camp, getting snow cat out of there as almost out of fuel. Roger that, we are here and
starting to search, looking for tracks (8:21p est)

--Out of fuel, at end of road. Snow is deep. Will get you out of there. What about 2nd dog? Dog is out of scent
and we are out of (broke up). (8:24p est)

--Did you 22 (10-22 Disregard last assignment) us? We didn't copy earlier. Negative. Ok, we are still in route
(8:27p est)

--Now they are wanting to 10-19 (basically call it off) everyone. Officers at camp ground want 25 minutes to clear
camp ground (8:27p est)

10-19 Return(ing) to station http://www.radiolabs.com/police-codes.html

--When in this area earlier did you see lights on in cabin? Door on cabin is ajar (lots of static) (8:32p est)
Your are breaking up, if you can call us on phone and give status.

--Checking dam site with bearcat then will 10-19. Do you have enough fuel to get back here? Yes, that's affirm (8:39p est)

--Will come back in morning with 2nd dog, he didn't make it to final area. (8:40p est)

** Basically everyone is 10-19'ing at this point (8:42p est)

--8:46p est - Tracks picked up near 'tulip'

-- Unit (?) we are 100 feet behind you, what do you want us to check? start checking street to west, looks like they are going west.



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Reply *** Update on manhunt for Dorner *** possible sighting, dog on trail, more: (Original post)
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longship Feb 2013 #3
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dhill926 Feb 2013 #8
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flamingdem Feb 2013 #9
longship Feb 2013 #10
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The Straight Story Feb 2013 #13
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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:08 PM

1. Oh no! It's Bigfoot!

Sorry couldn't help myself. You stay safe and don't open your doors to anybody.

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Response to bklyncowgirl (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:09 PM

2. I'm in Ohio, but still good adivce ;) (nt)

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:11 PM

3. They think he's gone to the ground?

I would bet my bottom dollar that he was long gone when they found that truck.

If he has gone to ground, the San Bernardino mountains would be a good place to do it. But if I were him I would leave a trail like I had; and then I would do something completely different.

I don't think this guy's dumb. He's had this planned for some time. He wants the police to look like fools.

Just speculating.

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Response to longship (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:18 PM

4. If he did have it planned may have had a hideout set up there

But then, could not be him at all....Since that is where they thought he went to been listening to that scanner all day.

Also, he would know if the snow gets too bad they would abandon the search at night (which they have done it appears, but still listening) Not to mention mountain traffic in the snow is a mess (TONS of accidents, roads blocked, etc - one cop was stuck in traffic with no where to go).

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:27 PM

6. That's why I think Dorner was long gone when they found the truck this AM

Easy to burn a truck with a delayed fuse. Even a lit cigarette would give someone ten minutes. I used to set off cherry bombs and M80's that way in my youth.

Why burn the truck? To conceal evidence.

But the guy wouldn't want to be anywhere nearby when it catches fire.

I think he's gone from the mountain and the cops are going to waste time trying to track him.

The thing is. Somebody is bound to ID him if he interacts with the public.

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Response to longship (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:43 PM

8. yep......

I got a feeling he's really playing the cops here. Hope I'm wrong, and that no others are hurt.....by either side....

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:24 PM

5. This is just plain scary. Yes, Dorner is out there but the cops

and their itchy trigger fingers and shoot first, ask questions later behavior should terrorize everyone in their vicinity.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:27 PM

7. Watch them shoot some random guy who got stuck in the snow.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:49 PM

9. NOTE: the truck was found to have a broken axel nt

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:00 PM

10. Oopsie!

How could that happen? I don't suppose that's an easy thing to break. Or could the fire have done it?

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Response to longship (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:07 PM

11. I think that is why they're looking up there

CNN saying he stole a car and left or is probably there

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:10 PM

12. I wonder if they are broadcasting misinfo on the scanner, knowing he may be listening

Saying they are giving up, but actually aren't?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:28 PM

13. Well, several things to consider

If he is up there on foot the terrain is pretty crappy (assuming he was heading west). Add to that a ton of snow falling, and he won't be able to travel far at night (roads being jammed here and there would not help him if he got a car). Looking at a map everything west is pretty much trees and rocks. If he were go due west to route 18 (and not jog north) it is about 8 miles as the crow flies.

They can plot out a radius he could travel by foot from where they last suspect him being and start to rule some things out. So even if he did go on all night he would be tired and slow next day, when they have the advantage.

West and south are both 8 miles to roads, east is right to the lake and large population where the police are patrolling tonight (they just advised which areas they would be in for traffic/routine/etc).

He may have something stashed there so he can hide out (small caves, etc) since he seems to have planned some things.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:34 PM

14. It's just the way they are very specific about some plans, and then pepper in

"have him call me on my land line..." stuff. But you're right, if he's on foot, he's trapped, unless he has stuff stashed somewhere.

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:37 PM

15. And I made a mistake above

I was judging distance in KM, it is about 5 miles and not 8 - close enough though

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:11 PM

16. They're back in the mountains searching

This is kind of fascinating to listen to.

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:43 PM

17. Yeah back home and listening now as well (nt)

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:50 PM

18. Did you hear them talking about the guy who has a drone?

Apparently some guy called in and he's got a drone with heat sensors and wants to let them use it.

Doesn't LAPD have their own?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:52 PM

19. Wow, no, will transcribe what I can though as I settle in with some coffee

And vodka Hit me up if you hear anything else like that as I might be in and out.

Got notepad up and ready to roll. Now I just need something to record the stream....

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 12:54 PM

20. Looks like they put 1h files up

"Hourly Audio" on the sidebar

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:02 PM

21. Window pried open on xxxx sand canyon road, and tracks

on google maps:
Big Bear Lake, sand canyon rd CA

This is better than honey boo boo and other reality shows

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:08 PM

22. Then they heard a bunch of voices, kids, so I think that one didn't pan out

now they're talking aboug a green ford taurus on 15

with paper San Diego plates; driver fits suspect description

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:11 PM

23. Police reportedly had one or more choppers with thermal imaging systems there

I don't know if they were able to use it yesterday due to weather. They probably couldn't fly in the snowstorm, but CNN reported that an unspecified police agency had that capability there.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:21 PM

24. are they closing in?

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Response to warrior1 (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:28 PM

26. Only if Dorner has split into multiple pieces

Sounds like they have leads in several places

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:26 PM

25. "I'll do the calls, thank you"



I couldn't tell is there was sarcasm in that one.

These breathless guys whispering, can't understand them

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:31 PM

27. And what is funny is in between "Woman called, is vomitting up blood"

Sometimes hard to tell what the hell is going on

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:33 PM

29. I know. And I sense some flirtyness between some of them.

That "I'll do the calls" sounded like those two had some sort of, er, relationship... or maybe I'm reading into things.

"No keys... back of the snowcat... ..."

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:34 PM

30. Yeah, we think they are tracking him, they are having a sexy rendezvous

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:38 PM

32. "water heater is on"

I think you're right!

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:33 PM

28. Oh, and this is interesting as well:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23dorner&src=typd

give it a minute before it starts to add new tweets, getting about 5-10 new ones per minute

Some interesting/stupid/bigot things

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:35 PM

31. "Everythign is as it should be. I will continue to sanitize"

Huh?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #31)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:38 PM

33. Yeah, heard that as well

Now asking whether heater should be on or off...another reason I am hoping this is recorded as is.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:39 PM

34. it will be up at the beginning of next hour n/t

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:55 PM

35. Lots of listeners in Reston, VA.

Wonder why.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #36)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:22 PM

47. Now that's an impressive list

of listeners. Some might have cabins in the incident area and some might be looking for leads/ideas for their professional use, interesting.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:02 PM

37. Fresh tracks at Camp Sky Meadows n/t

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #37)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:04 PM

38. 3 miles SE from where tracks were last night (Cedar Lake) (nt)

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #38)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:07 PM

39. Last hour audio is up but I don't want to leave live feed

dilemma

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #39)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:09 PM

40. Open in new tab :) and here is a map (track last night to sky meadow)

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #40)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:11 PM

41. New tab not the problem

Need either another ear or another brain. I'll take another brain.

Too bad I can't listen to two feeds, one in each ear, and understand them both. I'll have to work on that

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #41)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:13 PM

43. I am just right clicking them and saving them for later

Just in case ...

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #43)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:14 PM

44. Me too, have it saved but wonder when I'll listen, if ever

the live feed is more interesting. I suppose if any of these pan out, it will be interesting to go back and follow the story

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:16 PM

45. Especially if something weird happens and they try to scrub/sanitize it

After all said and done will delete, but I have a little mistrust of some agencies....

Did you see their archives?

Flame
July 1 2008 - Scanner traffic from all over Socal from a reported flaming object falling from the sky. Big Bear Scanner audio records the response which gets confusing. No known what it was however suspect is a meteor hitting the atmosphere. No verified reports of impact anywhere at this time. This is a WMV (Windows Media) Streaming File.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #45)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:18 PM

46. Nice! Didn't look in the archives. I want to listen to that one, thanks

awesome

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #40)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:12 PM

42. That ridge that runs E-W doesn't look exactly trivial ...

just sayin'

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:23 PM

48. What I'm learning is that

there are an awful lot of open/unlocked cabins up in Big Bear.

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #48)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:33 PM

49. Yeah...No wonder thieves listen to scanners

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #49)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:36 PM

50. Say what?!?!

Who you callin' a thief??? I'm alerting.

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #50)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:40 PM

51. Be honest, you are listening on a iPhone as you are speeding there

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #51)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:42 PM

53. If only I could multitask like that!

Post on DU, speeding down the 5, listening to feeds, AND drinking coffee!!

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:40 PM

52. Seriously?

"I will give you a 21 in 2 shakes of a lambs tail."

Don't they have a code for "2 shakes of a lambs tail"?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #52)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:57 PM

55. I liked the one the other night where the cop was getting out to take a whiz

You can do that in the forest??

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #55)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:00 PM

56. Hah, you mean someone said that?

The female on the radio said that to the male officer?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #56)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:05 PM

57. Was male on the radio, basically played out like this:

-- I am heading over the dirt mound (he was on foot) of love to check it out

--You mean you are going over there to take a whiz

--Yeah, pretty much

Not exact phrasing but those were the elements. I LOL'd

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 02:54 PM

54. I wonder if Dorner is somewhere listening to this

Like, hundreds of miles away or something.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:49 PM

58. I think my brain went into Hibernate mode

I'm still hearing voices but have stopped trying to understand what they are saying. Has everything gone cold?

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #58)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 03:53 PM

59. I think so, I am thinking they are at shift change

So will wind down until about 4:30 est.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:40 PM

60. Do I even want to know what this means?

"That's some nice pink stuff you're hurling up there."

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 04:52 PM

61. Sounds pretty quiet right now. I've been listening for about 15 minutes. nt

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Response to bayareamike (Reply #61)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 08:50 PM

62. Working on setting up a flir search

Talking about whether the perp knows a lot about aerial searches, etc.

They are up at 11,000 ft with night vision goggles, etc.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:52 PM

63. kick nt

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:13 PM

64. Anyone listening today? n/t

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #64)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:06 PM

65. I'm listening right now.

Not a whole lot going on related to the search.

Edit: radio traffic has picked up. I haven't heard anything specific to the search but there are a lot of different voices on the scanner right now. Seems a bit busier now.

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