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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:38 PM

Penelope Soto, Fla. teen who flipped off judge, apologizes and avoids 30-day sentence

(CBS) MIAMI - Penelope Soto, the Florida teen who was jailed after flipping off a Miami-Dade judge, avoided a month behind bars Friday after she apologized to him in person, reports CBS Miami.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57568468-504083/penelope-soto-fla-teen-who-flipped-off-judge-apologizes-and-avoids-30-day-sentence/

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Reply Penelope Soto, Fla. teen who flipped off judge, apologizes and avoids 30-day sentence (Original post)
arely staircase Feb 2013 OP
geomon666 Feb 2013 #1
AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #5
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #2
arely staircase Feb 2013 #4
AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #6
X_Digger Feb 2013 #11
arely staircase Feb 2013 #12
X_Digger Feb 2013 #13
davidpdx Feb 2013 #20
Logical Feb 2013 #8
elias7 Feb 2013 #9
reorg Feb 2013 #21
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #15
pipi_k Feb 2013 #16
dballance Feb 2013 #17
rl6214 Feb 2013 #18
RudynJack Feb 2013 #19
JI7 Feb 2013 #3
arely staircase Feb 2013 #7
Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #10
reorg Feb 2013 #14

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:24 PM

1. Good for her.

Hope she can get her life together.

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Response to geomon666 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:57 PM

5. Me too geomon, me too.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:35 PM

2. She wouldn't have done this if he hadn't brought the hammer down.

He took her down a few pegs and taught her not to smart off in court. I applaud what he did.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:55 PM

4. i really like how they both ended up handling it

he brought the hammer down but when she came to her senses and performed a simple ceremony of public contrition, he showed mercy. very civilized in the end.

i still think his original sentence seemed stiff, though her reaction innapproriate.

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:58 PM

6. A good ending, indeed! =) n/t

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:33 PM

11. Both are pretty common (30 days for contempt and dismissing it w/ apology) n/t

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:39 PM

12. seems fair, and i guess common

still a good lesson after all the attention the original video got, imho

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:41 PM

13. Absolutely. Maybe this young woman can get her head on straight after this reality check. n/t

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Response to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:56 AM

20. I agree

The original clip I saw only had that part from when she said "adios". I looked on Youtube and found the full clip when starts when she first came up and gives the charges and what her bail was set at before that part took place, then went on to cover what happened after she came back up the second time. I think without seeing the whole clip it's difficult to put it into context.

The public defender was nice about putting his butt on the line and politely saying to the judge (paraphrased) yes you didn't deserve to have that said to you, but you over reacted. The judge agreed and it was resolved.

I do think she was quite snotty and disrespectful to him though. Hopefully in the end she'll see the situation as a reason to clean up her act and turn her life around.

BTW here is the full clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Y3H03BhVe8E&feature=endscreen

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:59 PM

8. Idiot judge who got his feelings hurt so sentenced her to 30 days when DUI drivers get none. Idiot!

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:25 PM

9. Can you define "idiot" for me?

On one hand, I see a man who over decades has risen through the ranks of the legal field to become a judge, and who acted in a manner commensurate with the disrespect the court was being treated.

On the other hand, I see a girl pissing her life away, busted and on drugs, being flippant and obscene in a court of law.

On the third hand, I see someone inexplicably defending the latter with unfounded ad hominum attacks on the former.

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Response to elias7 (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:16 AM

21. "risen through the ranks"

Born in 1945, he was "elected without opposition in April of 2010". A long and steady rise, I suppose, in the "ranks" of the legal field, despite "his reputation for having a short fuse and a sharp tongue" (Miami Herald, 1998).
http://randompixels.blogspot.de/

In a Bar poll shortly thereafter, he got the second lowest ranking: "another fresh face to the judicial elections process also received low scores. Circuit Judge-elect Jorge Rodriguez-Chomat, a former state legislator who was automatically elected when the incumbent stepped aside, was rated unqualified by more than 46 percent of respondents."
http://is.gd/jNe0zP

From the St. Petersburg Times, April 10, 1998:

Valdes said Rodriguez-Chomat had walked over to him and repeatedly called him a jackass.

"By the third or fourth time (he said it), I just said, "You must be looking at yourself in the mirror,' " Valdes recounted. "He grabbed my tie, and I was just trying to keep him away." He said Rodriguez-Chomat also tried to punch him.


So, on the fourth hand, we see a grandfatherly newcomer to the bench with a history of unashamedly picking fights in public demeaning a diminutive young woman to show off his might.

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:45 PM

15. Your generalization is just a bit too broad. I got 30 days for a DUI in 1997. n/t

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:01 PM

16. Are you saying

that drunk drivers who have appeared before this judge have been released without penalty?

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:58 AM

17. Seriously? "Got His Feelings Hurt?" I Call Bullshit on Your Opinion.

That's a crock of crap. I suspect the good judge has had a lot worse said to him than a simple "F**K YOU" and being flipped off.

When one is in court, having been charged with a felony, one is expected to behave with some sense of decorum, realize the seriousness of the event and show respect for court officers - most especially the judge. This young woman didn't behave at all. She showed great disrespect for the court by throwing an expletive at the judge and flipping him off. She deserved to be thrown in jail for contempt.

Would you support teachers ignoring students in K-12 grades that told them "F**K YOU" and flipped them off? I doubt it. I hope you'd think it was okay for the school to suspend a kid that did such a thing for a couple of days.

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:25 AM

18. Right

 

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Response to Logical (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:37 AM

19. She got 30 days for Contempt of Court

not for her drug violation.

And she was contemptuous, and she deserved the sentence. She apologized, seemingly sincerely, and thus deserved the lifting of the sentence. The judge was entirely right, and he taught her a valuable lesson. A win/win.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:36 PM

3. but i thought she was our hero who stood up to authority

or some shit like that

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Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:59 PM

7. imho those who found her original tantrum heroic were few but vocal

and probably young, not that there is anything wrong with that.

i can see myself posting the likes of that 25 years ago if i had had the intertubes, which thank god i didn't for lots of reasons.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:27 PM

10. I saw this one coming.

More often than not this is how cases like this are resolved. I'm glad it turned out well in the end.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:45 PM

14. Woman who flipped off judge goes viral

Youtube video has more than 8 million views, 38,000 comments.

Soto's case has captured national attention, even spawning a Facebook fanpage and a "Free Penelope" Twitter feed.

http://is.gd/9pA5Bf




See also the interesting comment from poster Jonathan Corbett in the comments section of the article.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b28_1360360812

Facebook page Free Penelope Soto

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