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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:29 PM

Simple Question: Are all supporters of the 2nd Amendment inherently racist?


There is a particular argument by a few that all supporters of the 2nd Amendment are racist (and sexist and homphobic and even white-supremacist, according to at least one). Some of these members claim most of DU shares that view.

I'm curious if that is true or false, so I thought I'd ask and see where DU stands on this one, simple question:

Are all people who support the 2nd Amendment inherently racist (and/or sexist, homophobic, white-supremacist?)
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Yes, everyone who supports the 2nd Amendment is inherently racist (and/or sexist, homophobic, white-supremacist).
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No, of course not.
20 (91%)
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Reply Simple Question: Are all supporters of the 2nd Amendment inherently racist? (Original post)
Skip Intro Feb 2013 OP
rdharma Feb 2013 #1
JoePhilly Feb 2013 #2
Skip Intro Feb 2013 #3
mwrguy Feb 2013 #4
laundry_queen Feb 2013 #10
Adam-Bomb Feb 2013 #5
etherealtruth Feb 2013 #6
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #7
Skip Intro Feb 2013 #12
TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #8
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #9
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #11
HappyMe Feb 2013 #13
libtodeath Feb 2013 #14
Dash87 Feb 2013 #15
Throd Feb 2013 #16

Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:40 PM

1. Are all people who support the 2nd Amendment racist?

 

Of course not. But most of the really nutty far right gun nutters are.

And that's a fact!

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:48 PM

2. If you are going to use the Fox News framing "some say", you should credit them.

Sure, you said "There is a particular argument by a few ... ", but that simplifies down to the Fox News trademark leading question pre-fix, "some say ... ".

Do you recall in High School, when you took a True / False test, the dead give away that a question was FALSE, was a question that said "X is always followed by Y" or "Y never follows X".

Now let's look at your wording ... to help, I've placed the "give away" words in all CAPS.

Are ALL people who support the 2nd Amendment INHERENTLY racist (and/or sexist, homophobic, white-supremacist?)


Correct answer: FALSE.





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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:57 PM

3. ok.

You can find them here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=217701

I wasn't really wanting to transfer a meta issue to GD, but was curious as to DU sentiment on that very specific question, as that is the specific charge made by a few in the thread linked to above. But you asked, so there you go.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:59 PM

4. Maybe not all of them

But definitely most of them.

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Response to mwrguy (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:27 PM

10. Or they are inadvertently

supporting an inherently racist industry. Just like even if they aren't supportive of the NRA, by purchasing guns they are inadvertently supporting Republican values.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:59 PM

5. Really?

Questions like that make my head hurt.

How ignorant can someone be? I would be ashamed of myself for even THINKING
such a thing. Such lines of thinking belong on the OTHER end of the political spectrum.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:11 PM

6. Of course not!

The NRA certainly is ... many of the gun trolls that found DU since the Newtown tragedy certainly are ....but, those folk are simply idiots.

Though I will never agree with gun enthusiasts on the gun issue ... I in no way attribute those characteristics (racist, sexist and homophobic and white-supremacist) to folk simply because of their position on guns (if this were framed as supporters of the NRA, my answer would be very different)

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:35 PM

7. Not only are they not racist, or homophobic, to suggest such a thing is the worst kind of bigotry.

That kind of conflation of issues weakens all of our righteous causes.

And anyone here who claims such should, IMHO, should post elsewhere.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:09 PM

12. +100. nt

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:55 PM

8. Wooooo weeeee!!!

They ought to check reality out sometime. I'm sure they wouldn't dig it and would be appalled. No question some fit the description but to some degree or another, it will apply to anything. There are some racist motherfuckers that love Social Security. There are homophobic atheists. White Supremacist Socialists. I've also personal have known gun owners fitting every single group described to the tune of not even considering such a goofy theory till now.

Hell of a bubble to be in.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:03 PM

9. We are a country of over 300,000,000 people. Any use of the words all, none, every, never

and a host of other adjectives, when used to describe American citizens, reveals the narrow mindedness of the person using them.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:35 PM

11. Nah, but they all have their own ignorant reasons. nt

 

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:12 PM

13. No. Hell no.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:16 PM

14. What the?

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:30 PM

15. It's not a question worth addressing.

It's O'Reilly-ish, and this is from someone who hates guns. Being for or against certain gun control policies has nothing to do with racism, sexism, homophobia, being a member of the Legion of Doom, or being a covert alien spy seeking to take over the world. It just means that you feel a certain way about those policies.

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Response to Skip Intro (Original post)

Tue Feb 12, 2013, 01:41 PM

16. I know I am!

Hey, I'm just giving you what you want to hear...

Are all 2nd ammendment supporters white? Do black 2nd ammendment supporters hate people of other races? Is your question poorly constructed flamebait? So many questions...

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