I give God 0% so you get 28%...LMAO!

[Playinghardball]

I really love good people and the internet. This just made my day.


Found on the Miss R•EVOLutionaries Facebook page

[Wait Wut]

1. Oh...I am so going to have to do that.

And, I know the perfect place to do so. Young kids, mostly college students, great owner.

[Fuddnik]

7. You and me both!

In fact we're going out to a nice place Sat. night, and hell with it, just got my tax refund.

[roguevalley]

13. great idea this one. that 'pastor' obviously never read the red words in the new

testament or she would have given that waitress the shirt off her back. That is what Jesus said to do. care deeply and well for each other. This is a great link. I will do this myself. I always try to give about a third of the bill. I will make it more.

[SWTORFanatic]

2. I always tip $10 regardless of the bill. Then again I always eat with just 1 other person

so the bill is between $20-$75. I don't think the $75 server is working any harder than the $20 server either.

I'll have to put that on the next check though, haha.

[GoneOffShore]

16. What an interesting thought. I had customers like you when I waited tables.

After the first time when the bill was higher I always managed to give someone else the table and warned them.

The guy eventually stopped coming in to eat. He'd sit at the bar and only tip $5 no matter how many drinks he had. He always got served last. And got lots of ice.

[Zoeisright]

20. Perfect.

Bad tippers think they're so smart - but the server gets the last laugh.

[SWTORFanatic]

23. Since when is $10 a bad tip? LOL, in there for an hour (or less), server gets

probably more tables than just me. From me alone I paid that server $10/hr.

[Luminous Animal]

60. You do know that in most restaurants, the tip is split with the support staff

and the more expensive the restaurant the more support staff they employ in order to offer better service.

And yes, on $75 a tab, $10 is a bad tip.

[SWTORFanatic]

22. A $10 tip is BAD? Also, I never order booze, just so you know. When I delivered pizzas I was

thrilled if someone tipped $10 even if they ordered like 6 pizzas...

BTW my $10 tip for $75 (by far the most expensive place I went) was still 13.3%. Sometimes it was over 100%, on vacation I tipped a server $10 on a $9 order.

[GoneOffShore]

24. You really don't get it.

Here's the thing - 20% on $75 would be $15 - And that extra $5 probably means another coffee at Starbucks for you but can make a real difference to the server. And that 13.3% tip makes you look like a piker, but I guess you knew that.

[SWTORFanatic]

25. Ok dork, why should a server at a place that charges $75 (and mind you, that

has only happened ONCE in my life... next highest bill was about $65 IIRC) for a 3 course get $15 whereas a place that is considerably cheaper - say $30 get left the stiff amount of $6? Server is doing the EXACT same job. Bring food and refill a few drinks. Why should a poor schmo get a $6 tip instead? Or hell, the time I went to Denny's and ordered $9 worth of food I should have left $1.80 :p

Vast majority of the time my tips work out to well over 20%.

Also, I am insulted that you would insinuate I drink coffee

[GoneOffShore]

26. OK Sunny Boy Slim - leave your $10 and when that bill goes over $50

It's time to up the ante and keep it at 20% or more.

I go out a lot and will tip anywhere from 30% on low end bills (Chinese restaurants, diners, etc) to minimum 20% on higher end places (gastro pubs, white table cloth restaurants, etc). We don't do fast food - Denny's, Friday's, Olive Garden, TGIFriday's and others of that ilk.

Or continue doing what you do and good luck with it.

[SWTORFanatic]

27. I am not male, thanks. Sadly I do eat at only said crappy type places.

Like I said I know servers work hard... I did pizza delivery for about 6 months... and not only did I work hard on doing that I learned how to become quite a mechanic.

And yeah I had to close a couple nights a week, 3 hours of no tips, minimum wage, cleaning up.

Again never did I once have a problem with a tip based on %... I would be pissed as hell at $2 tip across town for a $10 order, and happy as a pig in shit for a $10 tip on a $100 order for a bunch of rowdy college students across the street.

[Skelly]

35. There is a difference

I serve at a higher end restaurant. The number of tables I have each evening is less than half of those in lower priced restaurants. The average dining time is 1 1/2 to 2 hrs. Every visit to your table is regulated. Your bottle of wine sitting next to you is always refilled by me. You water glass is filled whenever it drops below 1/2 full (unless you are drinking bottled water, in which case it is not filled more than 1/2 full...which I will also be refilling for you throughout your dinner). You will always be served from the left, dishes removed from the right, and all at one time (one person should never be left eating while the other guests dishes have been removed). Your table is crumbed before presenting the desert menu. Serving coffee alone involves warming up your cup beforehand. Refilling your cup is never done from the pot, but from a pewter coffee pot that I fill (from the brewed pot) before going to your table. It is emptied out afterwards, ready for the next refill. Between courses, utensils are replaced, drinks refilled. I know everything about every item on our menu, including ingredients and what is gluten free. I have knowledge about our extensive wine list and can pair any wine with an item on our menu. Bottled wine is presented, offered for tasting and poured.
I may not have as many tables as someone in a less expensive restaurant, but I am required to do more at the tables I do have, often trying to do all of this at multiple tables. While you are completely rewriting our menu (why yes, you can substitute rice for mashed potatoes, of course the sauce can be put on the side, and yes, you can have blue cheese stuffed olives - because I will be stuffing our regular olives with blue cheese back in the kitchen for you) you will never know that I am being buzzed on my pager for a food delivery and that the table across the restaurant is expecting their check while the one next to you I have just noticed needs their wine refilled. Oh, but wait, you want to know about other restaurants in the area.
If I was left a $10 tip on a meal that cost $100, I would ruminate the entire rest of the night wondering just what I did wrong. If you came in again and I asked you about it and you replied that you only give $10 tips, you would still get the exact same service you had previously because that is my job. I would just explain to my co-workers (whom I share tips with) just why your table always tips so low so they will not think it was anything *I* did to cause our lower tips.
On nights I go home having made $25-30 an hour, I rejoice and take half of that and put into savings for those nights when I literally have made $6 to $9 an hour.
At the end of the night, I have to tip out the bartender, the server assistant and the hostess. Some places require servers to tip out the kitchen staff. I might receive $7 of that $10 tip for a $100 meal. Since the government will tax me at 8% no matter what my tip was, your meal has now just cost me money.
It doesn't matter the cost of the meal, all servers work hard for low pay. The work may be different, but it is still work. Oh, and btw, when you come in for coffee and cake and your bill comes to $12, and you leave me $2, I may think you are cheap, but it won't ruin my night. Some people are just, ah, well, frugal. I understand that. It is part of what I do. Leaving $10 on a $100 check is not frugal. It is either very ignorant or just plain mean.

[tragicktruth]

36. So well said!

Does the government really tax servers at 8%--i thought it was 12%

[SWTORFanatic]

41. Again it comes down to a difference of opinion, and not what I'd call a high end restaurant

by any means. A tier above Applebee's at best.

Like I said I did pizza delivery and I did not give a crap on the price of the order, it was the flat rate and how far I had to drive that mattered.

If you think when I go in there and give you a $10 tip on a $39 (before tax) order because we decided to get just a soup and something cheap off the menu and then a month later give you a $10 tip on a $66 (before tax) order - which is still at least 13% after taxes and almost 15% before taxes because we decided to get steak instead of something cheap, makes me a jerk quite frankly I think you can go to hell. It works out exactly the same in the end, and I'm nicer to the people when I go somewhere cheap like Perkins or Denny's.

As for $6-$9 an hour, yeah I know that sucks. Here's a real sucky one though, getting paid $6 an hour + tips, then you drive 20 miles (when gas was $4.50 a gallon) and get no tip at all. Gas was not paid for us btw.

[Skelly]

63. lol you are not the first

and I expect you will not be the last to ever tell me to go to hell, but in this case, I do believe you have jumped the gun a bit.
I think you missed my point.
I imagine delivering pizza to be very frustrating. Not getting tipped at all is probably a not so unusual occurrence. And when it does happen, it probably sucked. So does being stuck with a $160 bill that someone has just walked out on. Sometimes, people just suck.

[pangaia]

52. THAT is a great post.

I always try to be a 'good' tipper, whatever that means. But the way you explain what is really going on, I will do even better.
Thanks for taking the time...

[Skelly]

65. When I tip

it is based on service and price of meal.
typically, I tip 15% for bad service, 20% for good service. more than 20% for really good service.
I also tip more than 20% when I order something that is typically below expected ordering. For example, I do not eat a lot. Frequently, my husband and I will either order appetizers for both courses or else each order an appetizer and then split an entree. We don't do this because we are cheap, we do this because we can not eat an entire entree. So, we typically tip more than 20% when we do this because I do not feel the server should be penalized because we are not ordering the normal one entree per person.
As a server, I do not expect people to do the same. Most just don't think about these things. And I really do not mind when people order appetizers for entrees or split an entree. It can be a bummer though when a lot of tables do this during one night.

[Pat Riot]

56. Amen, brother or sister.

To every single word you said.

[Politicub]

66. That's fine but you also need to be okay with being perceived as cheap

Because a 15-20% tip is customary in the U.S.

Perhaps that doesn't enter into your thinking, but it's something that isn't going to change.

[TeamPooka]

42. you neeed to defend your bad tipping practice withn name calling? whatever. nt

[SWTORFanatic]

43. Ok I'll now be leaving 15% tips at all times. Whether that's $15 or $1.40. ;)

[TeamPooka]

44. i don't care what you tip. Just don't call people names in a debate in this forum.

It lessens any argument you make on any topic.

[SWTORFanatic]

45. I know it doesn't justify it, but it was started on me first, basically called bad tipping

etiquette and basically a jerk (without using the word, it was clearly implied though) when the worst tip I ever left was about 14% before taxes and the best tip I ever left was over 100%.

I wish some of these... yes ENTITLED servers on this forum would pick a bone more with people who leave absurdly low tips or no tip at all, rather than someone who leaves at worst a *slightly* below expected tip 10% of the time, and a well better than expected tip 90% of the time. They're getting butthurt over a 14% tip? Really?

I got pissed over people who stiffed me when I delivered pizza or idiots who gave me $1, not when someone gave me $4 when I was hoping for $5.

*shrug*

[TeamPooka]

46. Cute how you excuse your behavior and blame others for "starting it". #rationalizinglikea3rdgrader

[dorkulon]

48. Bad tipping etiquette is not a pejoritive insult; it's an accurate description of what you do.

"Dork" is a meaningless knee-jerk insult. There is a difference.

[SWTORFanatic]

49. A much better than 15% tip the vast majority of the time, and slightly below 15% a tiny fraction

of the time is again, HORRIBLE tipping etiquette since when?

Honestly if you were a server would you get really upset if you got a 13-14% tip on a good night? How about on a bad night where a ton of people leave you change or stiff you? How about on an average night? As I said under no circumstances would that have upset me when I was in the service industry.

I think you really don't belong in that industry if that grinds your gears because I think you'd near explode when you get stiffed.

[dorkulon]

50. Whatever.

Justify it any way you want; I really don't care. Yes, there are worse tips, but that doesn't make yours less bad, sorry.

[Skelly]

64. I think it is great

that you tip well over 18 and even over 20% most of the time. Just please understand that servers at higher end restaurants DO work as hard as those in any other restaurant. As I said before, if someone would leave me below 15%, I would be ruminating all night on just what I did wrong. heck, I would question myself if it WAS at 15%. Most people that eat at a restaurant where the average entree is $25 can afford an 18% tip. To not receive that would make me question my performance. Also, in many, if not most, higher end restaurants, servers do not receive the entire tip. Server assistances/busboys, hostesses, bartenders, even kitchen staff are many times tipped out by the server.

[union_maid]

55. While it more than averages out just fine, I guess, it's problematic

Servers are usually taxed and have to tip out based on their sales, not their actual tips. If you undertip, you're actually costing them money. Overtipping is nice if you want to do it, but undertipping is always a lousy thing to do, regardless of what you gave the server last time you ate out.

[mopinko]

57. except that the job is not exactly the same job.

the server in the more expensive restaurant has to have a far higher level of knowledge about food in general, food trends and the food on your plate. they likely have more menu changes and specials to learn. they are expected to have a higher level of appearance- grooming and clothing, than the server at denny's. they have a far higher standard of behavior and manners.
they also need good knowledge of wine, whereas the $200 place has a sommelier.
they likely have to work under a far more demanding chef and management staff.

i could go on, cuz, see, i have done the job and i know what it takes to do the job. and the hardest thing about that $75 place is resisting the temptation to slip, and loose a bowl of hot soup on the lap of customers like you.

[mcctatas]

28. I've been a server in both fine dining places and pub/greasy spoon places

in the former you get bigger tips because the food costs are higher, your table turnover time its usually longer and a lot more service goes into you're average table, the latter its all about turnover baby. At the nicer places i would maybe do 20 tables on a busy night where i could easily do 35 at a pub. Also, at a "nice"restaurant servers are generally expected to tip out everyone from the bus person to the salad prep folks and the bartenders, generally in a pub you do a lot of that stuff yourself. Unless you've worked in food service you're tipping wisdom is based on half assed knowledge.

[A Simple Game]

34. So 20 tables at ten dollars a table is $200. What are you complaining about?

Do you really think you need money more than the waitress at the greasy spoon?

[GoneOffShore]

37. If you work at a high end place your buy-in is more.

Better clothes, better shoes, better body maintenance - haircuts and for women makeup.

Plus you're probably starting your shift earlier to do a lot more side work- polishing glasses, silverware, folding napkins, etc.
And finishing later.

[A Simple Game]

39. I had to have shoes that cost about $200 dollars, not to mention clothes

for my last job and made less than $140 per day for 8 hours. How many total hours per day are you talking about?

So do you think you need more money to live on than the greasy spoon waitress?

Here's a deal, have your employer raise your wages to $10 per hour and no tipping and I will happily pay them $2 or $3 more per meal. Deal? Tipping is a poor way to earn compensation, but I bet a majority of wait staff would not want it replaced for $10 per hour.

[GoneOffShore]

59. OK I was going to up the ante here - Though it's a useless exercise.

11 hour shifts were not unusual - 2 hours side work and 1 hour end of shift.

Working as a chef de rang (waiter) at one place I worked I had to buy two tuxedo's and not just any tuxedo, but Yves St. Laurent. It's what the house wanted. I also had to have tuxedo shirts which needed to be laundered and starched - one for every shift. The tux's needed to be cleaned on a weekly basis.

When I was promoted to maitre d' I needed suits, nice stylish, fashionable suits. Shirts to go with the suits and ties. These also attracted cleaning and laundry bills.

And good, fashionable shoes. Good ballpoint pens, several of which I lost to thieving customers, because you don't give a Biro to a patron to sign their $500 credit card bill. And I bought my own wine keys - the ones that the wine salesmen gave away for free were crap.

[mcctatas]

54. 35 tables at $8-10 a table and the fact that i don't have to tip

everyone mentioned in my initial post makes it pretty much a wash (and tips at a fine dining restaurant are closer to $18 a table at least). So saying you make $350 in a night, after you give $30 to the busser, $20 to the salad person and anywhere from $25-50 to the bartender (if they made you a fuck ton of ice cream drinks, it better be close to 50) you're down to around $275 which is about where you are at the greasy spoon. So yes, I should get tipped based on food cost because the fine dining experience is a lot more complex and the server has obligations to, for lack of a better word, support staff.

Also, those busy nights are not the rule, diners and dives have more reliably consistent business at least in my neck of the woods.

[Permanut]

3. Okay, but what you're forgetting..

Is that God is gonna be short today, by five or six bucks. This is NOT gonna turn out well.

[rhett o rick]

53. So are you saying their is a "minimum wage" for God? nm

[Permanut]

58. Maybe, but..

He has a few other cash generating activities going on, headed by John Hagee, Pat Robertson, the Crouch family, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar(!), Jack van Impe, Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffrey, Jentezen Franklin, Joyce Meyer, Marilyn Hickey and Kenneth Copeland, who scam millions from their flocks, under the premise that they are "giving to God". I'm not sure how that translates into $3500 suits and private airplanes, but hey, he works in mysterious ways.

[abelenkpe]

4. Saw one yesterday that said

I give God 0 percent so you get 100 percent. They gave a tip the same size as the bill.

I feel the urge to leave a note and nice tip too

[libtodeath]

5. The sky daddy never smiled at me and deliverd a nice meal so when he does I will tip him too.

[WillyT]

6. HUGE K & R !!!

[malaise]

8. Sweet

Rec

[flyover22]

9. I saw something on the teevee this morning about a guy who gives $500 tips

as a tribute to his dying friend who suggested it. It was a very cool story, and made me tear up a little bit.

[snappyturtle]

15. Thanks for sharing this story.

Welcome to DU!

[flyover22]

17. Thank you! I discovered my local TV station had a link to their story, it is very nice one

http://www.dailydot.com/society/aaron-collins-final-wish-500-pizza-tip/

[snappyturtle]

21. Thanks again! Great video....does my weak ol' heart good! nt

[alfredo]

18. That was at Puccini's in Lexington, Ky. The family is still giving random $500 tips.

It was to honor his dead brother who really liked this particular waitress. Puccini's makes pretty good pizzas.

http://www.puccinissmilingteeth.com/

[SheilaT]

38. I read some years ago about a college student

who won a serious lottery payout. This was back at least in the 90's, maybe earlier. Anyway, I recall thinking at the time I read the initial story, how nice for her.

A couple of years later there was another story about her. Seems because she'd earned her living waiting tables before the lottery win, she now routinely tipped a hundred bucks every time she ate out. Sometimes servers would actually follow her out thinking she had mistakenly left that much money. Nope. She now could afford it, so she always tipped with extreme generosity.

I wish I could tip that extremely well. I do tip minimum of 20%, and often a much higher percentage if I've ordered something inexpensive. For instance, there's a particular soup I like at a particular chain restaurant, so sometimes I'll go in and just get a cup of it, which comes to maybe three bucks. I leave a five dollar tip. Seems fair to me.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

10. oh. NICE!

I wanna do that!!

[SaveAmerica]

11. I think this is giving 28% to God

Because I feel that your 10%, 18%, or 28% that goes to the young student, single Mom, or whomever is where it's supposed to go, not to a church or pastor.

[Sherman A1]

12. Agreed

There was that "what you do to the least of my ........" thing as I recall. So I completely agree with you.

[Heather MC]

14. I am Christian

I give God Zero% as well because the bible says heaven has streets paved in gold. So i know God doesn't need my money as bad as i do.

[OwnedByCats]

61. Not to worry

I never did think that God needed money anyway. Kind of pointless in the afterlife I think lol

I'm sure God would rather you kept your money or give it to the charity of your choice.

[DaveJ]

19. Now I know what John Lennon meant by Imagine No Religion...

This mindset would solve many of the world's problems.

[Cha]

29. God probably

understands.. What does he/she need money for?

Thanks Play.. I love it

[SemperEadem]

32. surely.. if we can't take it with us when we die...

then one should make sure that the least of us are treated kindly.

[eridani]

30. NB for future reference: the poster did this one right

All identifying info is carefully hidden. Anyone doing this kind of posting should do likewise.

[mwooldri]

31. Agreed! In my line of work...

... I was horrified to learn that some people have uploaded their bank and credit card statements online, Google indexed them, and then anyone who keyed in the right search terms got that persons statement, card number, name, address... nearly everything to do a full identity takeover of that person. Oops. Not as bad as posting the whole darned thing on Facebook unredacted. I do know my employers work with Google et al and the people involved and try to get these links pulled but there will always be someone with a grudge against my employer and want to post things online to highlight their displeasure. (not I don't speak for my employer here).

[easychoice]

33. ROTFLMAO!!!!

YES INDEED!

[kmlisle]

40. Cash versus credit card tips?

We are working on a wage theft ordinance in our town and a presentation I went to recently recommended that you tip in cash directly to the server because the management will in some places (especially ones this list has already abandoned generally) will sometimes skim off a percentage of the tips before turning them over. This is an example of wage theft along with not giving a paycheck directly or making people work off the clock like Walmart. So besides 20% which is my practice I am starting to tip in cash only.

[timdog44]

51. Actually what I do is

ask the server how she gets her tips when they go on the credit card and make my decision from that. At one restaurant the server gets her cash immediately that night. At another, it does not work that way and then give cash instead.

[ohheckyeah]

62. I give a 15% tip for crappy service

and a minimum of 20% otherwise, usually 25 - 30%. I've been known to do a 100% tip on occasion. The last time we ate out I only left 15% because we never got our bread, I had to ask 3 times to get my iced tea and we finally had to get up and go ask for the check. The service was terrible, but I still didn't stiff the waiter.