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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:52 PM

The meat industry now consumes FOUR-FIFTHS of all antibiotics - Mother Jones

http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2013/02/meat-industry-still-gorging-antibiotics



The Pew Charitable Trusts crunched the agency's numbers on antibiotic use on livestock farms and compared them to data on human use of antibiotics to treat illness, and mashed it all into an infographic, which I've excerpted below. Note that that while human antibiotic use has leveled off at below 8 billion pounds annually, livestock farms have been sucking in more and more of the drugs each year—and consumption reached a record nearly 29.9 billion pounds in 2011. To put it another way, the livestock industry is now consuming nearly four-fifths of the antibiotics used in the US, and its appetite for them is growing.


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Reply The meat industry now consumes FOUR-FIFTHS of all antibiotics - Mother Jones (Original post)
superpatriotman Feb 2013 OP
lunasun Feb 2013 #1
Warpy Feb 2013 #5
bemildred Feb 2013 #2
Warpy Feb 2013 #3
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #9
Warpy Feb 2013 #10
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #11
alp227 Feb 2013 #20
bvar22 Feb 2013 #30
Warpy Feb 2013 #31
KittyWampus Feb 2013 #14
Warpy Feb 2013 #18
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #23
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #4
silverweb Feb 2013 #6
Autumn Feb 2013 #7
Glassunion Feb 2013 #8
Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #15
Glassunion Feb 2013 #17
Luminous Animal Feb 2013 #19
timdog44 Feb 2013 #21
Glassunion Feb 2013 #24
timdog44 Feb 2013 #26
timdog44 Feb 2013 #28
gollygee Feb 2013 #12
DirkGently Feb 2013 #13
WillyT Feb 2013 #16
arely staircase Feb 2013 #22
timdog44 Feb 2013 #25
Louisiana1976 Feb 2013 #27
KT2000 Feb 2013 #29
drm604 Feb 2013 #32
Berlum Feb 2013 #33

Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:56 PM

1. There has been some movements to stop the over use in healthy animals but

Big Pharma

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Response to lunasun (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:18 PM

5. More like factory farming

if an animal gets sick with any type of bacterial illness, it moves like wildfire throughout the whole operation thanks to extreme overcrowding.

Factory farming is the problem. Big pharma might be cashing in on prophylactic antibiotics, but they're not driving their use.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:57 PM

2. And THAT is why our antibiotics don't work so good any more. nt

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:16 PM

3. That's completely insane and due 100% to overcrowding

animals raised in factory farming situations.

You can get 100% grass fed beef and meat raised without antibiotics but its' pricier.

And that's a good thing because it encourages people to eat less meat. Their arteries will thank them.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:06 PM

9. Just another unsustainable aspect of our food supply....

Guaranteed to NOT end well.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:09 PM

10. That with breeding chickens that are incapable of standing up

by the time they're 8 or so weeks old.

The whole thing has gotten insane, inhumane, and will ultimately collapse and make us all very hungry for a very long time.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:17 PM

11. During the big La Gloria Flu Scare of 2009, I read up on factory hog farms....

Very new and completely unsustainable. Huge waste ponds that rival the sewage treatment needs of cities are created and left untreated. When the ponds get too big, they move the farms.

There's absolutely no plans for sustainability - it's a profit and run deal.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:30 PM

20. I've always wondered how chickens are "bred" big.

I thought the big chickens were fed fatty foods or steroids.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:24 PM

30. Chickens that can not stand up.....

My wife & I moved from Minneapolis to a very rural area of Arkansas (Ouachita Mountains) in the Fall of 2006. A couple of months later, during Christmas Week, we were exploring along a winding, dirt back road after a snowfall,
and there, in the middle of the road, sitting on a small pile of snow between the ruts, was a small, yellow chick that couldn't have been more than 2 days old.

We had no idea how that chick could have gotten there,
but, of course, we took the chick home, warmed it up, and became the proud parents of a beautiful little house chicken.

Since raising and keeping Free Range Chickens was a part of our plan, we celebrated the Christmas Providence of the newest member of our refuge and first member of our flock.

It soon became apparent that our new member had difficulty standing, and was deteriorating daily. My wife stayed in 24 hour nursing attendance, hand feeding and nurturing this small and very frail piece of our new life. She even fashioned small splints in the hope that this would let her stand, but that was not to be.
After several days, this small chick died in my wife's hands while she was whispering words of love and giving her permission to go. We buried "Peep" behind our cabin that afternoon.

A few days later, we mentioned the mystery of the Chick-in-the-Road to a local neighbor, and he told us the horrible truth.

Tyson Industries contracts with local Chicken "Farmers" in this area.
Tyson provides the chicks and the feed, and picks up the hens for slaughter.
The "farmers" keep these chickens in tight confinement (Concentration Camps).
They live their short lives in cages too small to turn around in, so there is no need for them to even stand. They are bred for the size of their breasts ONLY, and wouldn't be able to walk even if they were free.

The chicks are hatched at the Tyson Factory Headquarters,
and transported to the "farmers" aboard the "Chicken Bus",
and it is not uncommon for one or two chicks to escape from the bus during transport, but that doesn't do them any good because they can't really walk.
THAT was what we had found in the snow, in the road, the Day before Christmas, and a sobering dose of reality for us.

We are still here, and we have a wonderful flock of happy, healthy, Free Range chickens.
We treat them with respect and love, and they entertain us, mystify us, and give us healthy eggs, but we also haven't forgotten the horrors that exist not too far away.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:38 PM

31. At least Peep escaped debeaking

and that's when she made her escape, during the confusion of the process of debeaking a huge clutch.

Most broilers are raised in big, barrack like structures, plenty of room when they're chicks but crammed in pretty tightly as they get to be seven to nine weeks old, the average age for the broiler chickens you see most often in the supermarket. Debeaking is necessary because overcrowded chickens will peck at each other and make each other's meat less appealing.

Laying hens are the ones crammed into cages, able to sit and eat and lay eggs and nothing else until they stop laying and are sent to be made into soup.

Eggs and meat from chickens labeled "free range" might come from chickens whose ability to be outdoors and scratch for grubs is limited to an hour a day, but that's an hour better than Purdue's hapless hens get.

Organically raised, really free range chicken is very, very different from mass produced chicken. The breasts are normal size and you can't cut the meat with the side of your fork. A diet of corn supplemented by mealworms, grubs and insects makes the meat more flavorful. It does take getting used to (especially the price!), but it's better for you and much better for the poor chickens.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:00 PM

14. Warpy, I think corn feeding is also a factor in using antibiotics. It's not normal & cows react to i

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:16 PM

18. Who knows? They're packed together, knee deep in their own waste,

on a finish lot when they're fed all that corn to make them unhealthily fat.

In any case, I've driven past feed lots in August. Nothing that smells like that can be healthful for man or beast.

I'll stick to the 100% range fed stuff. Or develop a taste for buffalo, which stores here are beginning to carry. Everybody else can have my share of that "marbled" beef that is so efficient at clogging arteries.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:37 PM

23. It's the exchange of waste that makes the farm the perfect disease factory....

Bacterial diseases can be fought, for now, with increasing antibacterials...

Virus mutations? Not so much. One of these days one will hop to humans....

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:17 PM

4. Appetite for use may be decreasing since beef herds are decreasing?

Dunno what is happening with level of dairy cows, tho.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:19 PM

6. Antibiotic allergies.

I know someone who has severe allergic reactions to multiple antibiotics. He couldn't understand why he's been unable to eat meat for the last few years without getting sick. Needless to say, I've passed on this article.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:19 PM

7. That is why I buy my beef from a local rancher

grass, grain and no antibiotics.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:44 PM

8. As a side note...

We avoid meat with Antibiotics and Hormones currently.

But, my wife grew up in a meat and potatoes home, and I fell that all of the hormones and anibiotics turned her into a superhero.

My evidence:
1. She is always right.
2. She never get sick.
3. She is super strong
4. She is always calm
5. She could definately kick my ass
6. She can drink me under the table
7. Taxis always stop for her
8. She has never lost anything
9. She does not pass gas

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:02 PM

15. Doesn't that pretty much describe all women?

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Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:13 PM

17. No. I dated several women before I met my wife.

I can name 2 that were absolutely not calm. All I could drink under the table. All could also get sick. 3 that were never right. I can also confirm at least 4 passed gas, 1 that nearly killed me.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:19 PM

19. I was joking! But I am glad that you found someone who you can live with.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:33 PM

21. #10

You better buy her a heart

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Response to timdog44 (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:38 PM

24. She lurks, never posts. Ever.

I bought her a good wine, she'll appreciate that. I'll never get her flowers though.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:43 PM

26. Wine is a good choice.

I buy my wife wine and flowers. Never diamonds. I offered her one when I first proposed, and she refused!! So, no diamonds.

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Response to Glassunion (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:00 PM

28. I forgot to say.

We avoid meat with antibiotics and hormones also.

1-8 is also my wife. I'll have to pass on #9

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:53 PM

12. Wow!

This is why I buy local organic meat from my local food co-op.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:58 PM

13. Absolutely insane. (nt)

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:10 PM

16. K & R !!!


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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:33 PM

22. lindsay lohan is prescribed the final fifth eom

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:40 PM

25. Read Michael Pollan

Omnivore's Dilemma. Antibiotics cause faster growth and in mass cow factories, corn causes problems that require antibiotics. Those fine establishments employees are mostly vets as in veterinarians. And all those antibiotics might be eaten by the cows (or other meats) are then eaten by you and I. No wonder they don't work anymore.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:46 PM

27. K&R

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:04 PM

29. those antibiotics enter the waterways

and groundwater. They are in the water used to irrigate farms. They are in municipal water supplies. We ingest them where our human cells are always developing new ways to disable the antibiotics and make them ineffective.

We are looking at the end of the age of antibiotics. This has been known for a long time but I guess no one wanted to offend the powerful corporations that run factory farms.

Back to dying of all those bacterial infections that we now consider minor.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:33 AM

32. This is a public health danger.

Doctors try not to overdo antibiotic use in humans, but what good does that do when this is going on? We're breeding resistant bacteria on these "farms". The producers benefit from it. The pharmaceutical companies benefit from it. The consumer gets abundant, inexpensive meat and the connection to uncle Joe's or cousin Sue's persistent infection isn't clearly obvious. The market won't fix this. This requires government intervention, but we've known about this issue for decades and nothing is done.

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Response to superpatriotman (Original post)

Sat Feb 9, 2013, 05:52 AM

33. Eschew corporate GMO-fed, chemical & hormone & drug saturated 'food' product

Eat clean food. You will feel a lot better.

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