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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:35 PM

Clinton brings warning to House Democrats about 2014 campaign

LANSDOWNE, Va. — Former President Bill Clinton came to the House Democratic retreat here armed with a warning: The Republicans won’t make it as easy for Democrats to win in 2014.

“I think that we should assume going forward that the people who disagree with us, honestly in our approach, will not make it quite as easy to draw the contrast on the things they do and say they did last time,” Clinton told House Democrats in a wide-ranging and largely informal talk that lasted nearly 45 minutes.

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Democrats, Clinton said, need to advance an affirmative agenda on jobs, immigration and gun control without relying solely on the coalition of minorities and young voters who reelected President Obama but who will be harder to turn out to the polls in the midterm election.

“You should not rely on demography alone,” Clinton said.

Clinton urged Democrats to be particularly mindful of gun-owning voters as they pursue legislation to expand background checks, limit high-capacity magazines and ban assault weapons in the wake of the December school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

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“I see this whole gun issue as an opportunity, not a toxic landmine,” Clinton said. “So turn into this,” he continued. “Treat these people as our friends, our neighbors, people we share a country with.”


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ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 OP
ThatPoetGuy Feb 2013 #1
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #2
upaloopa Feb 2013 #4
ThatPoetGuy Feb 2013 #7
randome Feb 2013 #6
malaise Feb 2013 #3
patrice Feb 2013 #5
RudynJack Feb 2013 #8
patrice Feb 2013 #9
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #10
RudynJack Feb 2013 #12
Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #11

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:39 PM

1. Unfortunately, he's wrong about gun owners.

Even if we do as he says, even if we "treat them as our friends, our neighbors, people we share a country with," they're still going to vote Republican.

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Response to ThatPoetGuy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:41 PM

2. IMO he's right about the economy and Obamacare though

Clinton urged the party to craft a clear employment program, saying that while the nation needed a long-term debt-reduction plan, but said, “that doesn’t mean austerity is the right response.”

“If you do not have growth, you cannot fix this debt problem,” Clinton said

He also cautioned Democrats not to “walk away” from healthcare as an issue just because the overhaul they supported is now enacted into law. Implementation of the law would be important to the party’s future success because, he said, “we Democrats now own health reform for good or ill.”

If the healthcare law needs to be changed, Clinton said, Democrats “need to be caught trying to change .”

“Stay with this. Make it work. Prove that we were right to do it,” he said.

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Response to ThatPoetGuy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:46 PM

4. I own a gun and in my 66 years only voted for

one repub. That was Gerry Ford and I regret not having a perfect record.
You should not make assumptions about gun owners, white old men because millions of us vote Dem.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:55 PM

7. I am sorry, I was too universal in my statement, my bad.

But you are also, not a swing voter; you're not on the fence. You didn't sit around trying to decide whether to vote for Obama or Romney, and you didn't base your ultimate decision on a single issue.

Clinton suggests crafting policy and policy discussion to appeal to a sliver of voters so tiny they probably don't exist. There are single-issue voters, who make up a tiny percentage of the voting population; there are swing voters, who make up a small but important segment; and Clinton is saying that appealing to the fabled single-issue-swing-voter is more important than enacting legislation to protect our kids and our families and communities.

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Response to ThatPoetGuy (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:55 PM

6. Treating them as enemies will make them determined to stand against us even more.

We can't afford to lose sight of the big picture. As Obama said, he is the President of ALL Americans. That includes the gun owners.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:44 PM

3. Are there any live links to the retreat

Please!!

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:49 PM

5. I'm thinking he may be reading the crystal ball right on that coalition: Young voters appear to be

getting ready to throw the entire leftward push on the whole Democratic policy agenda under the bus over drone programs.

The 1% have NO political party, so at least some of what we are seeing about opposition to drone programs, NDAA/AUMF, all of that, could be more about defeating the whole Democratic agenda (the right to organize, pressure for single payer, ALTERNATIVE ENERGY, appropriate free public education . . . . ) and that "at least some" that I'm referring to in the first sentence in this paragraph, would have to be the most financially powerful portion of the push to get Obama, over drone projects/NDAA etc., and throw the entire Democratic drift to the left under the buss in the process.

SO, we could end up with drone programs et all anyway and even LESS social and economic justice than we currently have anyway.

And pardon me all to hell for being pragmatic, btw.

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Response to patrice (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:03 PM

8. Young people will abandon the democrats

over drones? I doubt that.

What will they do, vote Republican?

The big midterm problem is simply getting people to vote in a non-presidential election - it's always been a challenge.

I see no evidence that the drone issue will play any part in it.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:10 PM

9. I hope you're right. I personally know a lot of young people and their acquaintence with ALL

of the issues, and how things work, is concerning to say the least.

I believe they can change, but I'm also afraid some of us could get thrown under the bus, before they get around to understanding and choosing their responsibilities more fully.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:14 PM

10. What will they do? Not vote.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:18 PM

12. Many of them will not vote

simply because it's a mid-term election. it'll be hard to tie it to a particular issue, and I've seen nothing that says drones will be responsible.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:24 PM

11. Uh, Bill, most voters back more gun control.

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