Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:18 PM
ProSense (80,366 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Grover Norquist: impeach President Obama if he doesn't extend tax cuts for the richNorquist Looks Ahead
By Ed Kilgore As screwed up as things are in Congress right now, it’s natural that nobody much wants to contemplate how much more screwed up things might be after the November elections unless one party or the other emerges with united control and something of a mandate. So it was interesting to read an interview Nancy Cook of National Journal conducted with everybody’s favorite right-wing commissar, power-broker and demagogue, Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform, about post-election scenarios: NORQUIST: If the Republicans have the House, Senate, and the presidency, I’m told that they could do an early budget vote—a reconciliation vote where you extend the Bush tax cuts out for a decade or five years…. then they pass the (Paul) Ryan plan (on Medicare).
NJ: What if the Democrats still have control? What’s your scenario then? NORQUIST: Obama can sit there and let all the tax (cuts) lapse, and then the Republicans will have enough votes in the Senate in 2014 to impeach. Yes, “impeach.” Now you have to appreciate that Grover is probably feeling a little long in the tooth lately, and perhaps impatient. With all the back-and-forth over who said and did what during the administration of St. Ronald Reagan, it’s bound to make him think back to his salad days in the early 1980s, when he as swaggering around Washington with a bumper sticker on his briefcase that read “I’d rather be killing commies,” an allusion to his pastime of hanging out with “freedom fighters” being backed by South Africa’s apartheid regime. Or perhaps he’s fondly remembering the later period when he was famous for harassing state legislatures and city councils to name things after Reagan. Some of Grover’s more recent projects haven’t gone so well, most notably his effort to turn Muslim-Americans into a pro-Republican voting bloc (viz. the recent candidate debate in Florida, when a question from a Palestinian-American voter launched several of the would-be presidents into a lather of Muslim-bashing). - more - http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2012_01/norquist_looks_ahead035063.php Here's the actual title of the National Journal piece:
Grover Norquist predicts a rebellion if President Obama wins reelection and doesn’t extend the Bush tax cuts.
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| ProSense | Jan 28 | OP | |
| stopbush | Jan 28 | #1 | |
| FreakinDJ | Jan 28 | #2 | |
| abelenkpe | Jan 28 | #3 | |
| edhopper | Jan 28 | #12 | |
| abelenkpe | Jan 28 | #30 | |
| malaise | Jan 28 | #4 | |
| tabatha | Jan 28 | #15 | |
| RC | Jan 28 | #34 | |
| onenote | Jan 28 | #35 | |
| TheMastersNemesis | Jan 28 | #5 | |
| tabatha | Jan 28 | #6 | |
| newspeak | Jan 28 | #32 | |
| MadHound | Jan 28 | #7 | |
| tabatha | Jan 28 | #16 | |
| MadHound | Jan 28 | #17 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Jan 28 | #19 | |
| MadHound | Jan 28 | #24 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Jan 28 | #28 | |
| hobbit709 | Jan 28 | #38 | |
| Dragonfli | Jan 28 | #39 | |
| Dragonfli | Jan 28 | #40 | |
| BootinUp | Jan 28 | #41 | |
| paulk | Jan 28 | #26 | |
| Arkana | Jan 28 | #27 | |
| SammyWinstonJack | Jan 28 | #8 | |
| Bohunk68 | Jan 28 | #9 | |
| HopeHoops | Jan 28 | #10 | |
| Beaverhausen | Jan 28 | #11 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Jan 28 | #13 | |
| Paladin | Jan 28 | #14 | |
| Zorra | Jan 28 | #18 | |
| barbtries | Jan 28 | #20 | |
| nobodyspecial | Jan 28 | #21 | |
| opihimoimoi | Jan 28 | #22 | |
| mmonk | Jan 28 | #23 | |
| Buns_of_Fire | Jan 28 | #25 | |
| sarcasmo | Jan 28 | #29 | |
| yurbud | Jan 28 | #31 | |
| julian09 | Jan 28 | #33 | |
| Ship of Fools | Jan 28 | #36 | |
| Rex | Jan 28 | #37 |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:22 PM
stopbush (10,358 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
1. Norquist's influence is shrinking down enough to a size where it may soon drown in a bathtub.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:25 PM
FreakinDJ (12,800 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
2. Grover Norquist: from the mouth of an Iran's Lobbyist
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
abelenkpe (4,375 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. Does he really think that would go over well with voters
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given that polling suggests between 70-80 percent of all Americans favor increasing taxes on the rich?
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Response to abelenkpe (Reply #3)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:40 PM
edhopper (4,707 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. Do you really think
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he gives a shit?
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Response to edhopper (Reply #12)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:01 PM
abelenkpe (4,375 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
30. LOL! no
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But I do think the reps he would need to pursue impeaching the president might.
Ask congress to impeach the president because he refuses to continue coddling the 1% while the rest suffer? Suicide if one wants to be re-elected. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:26 PM
malaise (89,484 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Grover should have been tried for treason ages ago
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Response to malaise (Reply #4)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:52 PM
tabatha (17,632 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Yes, making congress people sign pledges for what HE wants
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and to go against the electorate, is treason.
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Response to tabatha (Reply #15)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:20 PM
RC (17,297 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
34. His pledge also goes the Pledge of Office everyone in Congress took.
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How is that not treason?
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Response to tabatha (Reply #15)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:33 PM
onenote (19,633 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
35. You might want to get a copy of the Constitution
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Norquist is a doofus but what he does isn't "treason" as that term is narrowly defined in the US Constitution. Indeed, its not even illegal.
Its just bad policy. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:29 PM
TheMastersNemesis (352 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Heal Thyself
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If Norquist ever got sick, he should NOT receive any healthcare. Since he believes that everyone should take care of himself. He has been responsible for the deaths a lot of Americans. He is complete GOP scum.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:29 PM
tabatha (17,632 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. "Grover Norquist predicts a rebellion if President Obama wins reelection and doesn’t extend.."
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In his dreams.
By whom? The vast majority of the electorate wants the rich to pay their fair share. But to Norquist, the electorate and democracy do not matter. POS. |
Response to tabatha (Reply #6)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:52 PM
newspeak (4,216 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
32. no, the only electorate norquist believes exists
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are the wealthy and corporations. Reagan lowered taxes and then had to raise them twice; however, he still caused a massive deficit. The rich do not create jobs; unless they get mega bucks for it. So, most jobs are going to countries that love slave labor and little regulations. They can keep repeating the shite like a mantra, it's still a fabrication.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:33 PM
MadHound (30,354 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. Don't worry Grover, Obama's got this covered
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There will be some sort of kabuki theater, some sort of "hostage"situation, and then in the name of bipartisanship, Obama will again preemptively cave and extend tax cuts for the rich for years longer.
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Response to MadHound (Reply #7)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:52 PM
tabatha (17,632 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. No, he will not.
Response to tabatha (Reply #16)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:54 PM
MadHound (30,354 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. Really?
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That's exactly what he did last time. What makes you think anything, any damn thing, will be different the next time around?
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Response to MadHound (Reply #17)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:07 PM
BumRushDaShow (6,901 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. So you are allied with Norquist?
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Answer = yes.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #19)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:29 PM
MadHound (30,354 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Why do you think that I'm allied with Norquist?
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Because I point out the fact that Obama has already extended the tax cuts for the rich, and based on that fact it is likely he will extend them again.
Sorry that reality is such a disappointment for you, but it is reality nevertheless. Unless you can point out to me where Obama didn't extend the tax cuts for the wealthy |
Response to MadHound (Reply #24)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:50 PM
BumRushDaShow (6,901 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
28. You're problem
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is citing skewed "assumptions" as fact. That is the sort of thing that Faux Snooze does.
Too many here on DU were adamant that DADT would not be repealed based on their "assumptions-as-fact", yet here we are today without it. Sorry but the misery squad has become irrelevant. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #28)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 04:02 PM
hobbit709 (21,502 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
38. And what does DADT have to do with extending the tax cuts?
Response to hobbit709 (Reply #38)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:18 PM
Dragonfli (3,448 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
39. Nothing, I think the poster is a Norquist ally that wants those taxes to stay low!!
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Why else would the poster try to divert discussion away from the ever continuing tax cuts that were voted for by conservatives in Dem clothing as well as the "honest about what they are" Republicans.
The extensions were also signed By a Democratic (at least party affiliation wise if not Progressive policy wise) President. I just learned that calling a long time progressive on this board a "Norquist ally", even when it is obviously being leveled against a DUer that is rabidly anti-Bush/Obama tax cuts by one that sees the continued tax cuts as something that was good or at least something we must not rally against. Ass backwards accusation, reeks of projection by the pro tax cut poster calling people names. |
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #28)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:20 PM
Dragonfli (3,448 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
40. Extending the Bush/Obama tax cuts was no assumption, it actually happened. Read a paper some time nt
Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #28)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 06:25 PM
BootinUp (24,472 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
41. misery squad?
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lol.
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Response to MadHound (Reply #7)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:47 PM
paulk (11,424 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
26. I don't know
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I think there's been enough pressure that Obama is, at least, starting to change his rhetoric on this. I'm not convinced it's all theater.
The proof, as they say, is in the pudding, however, and Obama's past actions don't lead one toward hope. Hope is all I have, though, so I need to hang on to it. |
Response to MadHound (Reply #7)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:48 PM
Arkana (20,423 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
27. He didn't do it for nothing.
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He did it so that millions of unemployed people could continue receiving the help they need.
He made the best of a really shitty situation, and I have to tell you--your denigration of him says a lot more about you than it does about him. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:33 PM
SammyWinstonJack (33,717 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. What a rotten thing he is.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:36 PM
Bohunk68 (75 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. Calling all Teanderthals!!!
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I've got an idea if you want to exercise your 2nd amendment rights against treasonous bastards who hate the Constitution.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:37 PM
HopeHoops (27,486 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. Grover - There's a tiny little orifice I would invite you to lick, but I don't want your germs.
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What an idiot.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:38 PM
Beaverhausen (19,844 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Impeach him for what?
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Seriously why the hell does anyoneistem to this guy?
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:40 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (12,492 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
13. Blow me, you sack of shit. nt
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:43 PM
Paladin (6,581 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. Impeachment? Hold Your Breath, Norquist..... (n/t)
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 12:58 PM
Zorra (14,839 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
18. Thanks. What a hoot! "Grover Norquist predicts a rebellion
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if President Obama wins reelection and doesn’t extend the Bush tax cuts."!1!1!
Who's gonna rebel? It sure won't be the 99%. And if it ain't the 99%, that leaves 1%. Good luck with that, Grover...does the name Custer mean anything to you? |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:11 PM
barbtries (11,796 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. i'm somewhat surprised
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that the republicans haven't tried to impeach him yet. they'll do that for political reasons as proven by history
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:12 PM
nobodyspecial (625 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
21. I didn't realize not bowing to the wants of the 1%
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were sufficient grounds for impeachment.
And newsflash Norquist, the rebellion happens if those tax cuts are extended. Millions should not be made to suffer just so multimillionaires and billionaires can amass more money than they could possibly spend in a lifetime. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:13 PM
opihimoimoi (52,217 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
22. The dude needs to STFU and crawl back under from which he came...he is so over it
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:25 PM
mmonk (45,953 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. Posted this on my Facebook page with my usual derisive comments.
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Thanks.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:45 PM
Buns_of_Fire (7,197 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. Little furry Grover is sounding a bit shrill, isn't he?
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That tends to happen when people like him realize that people aren't marching to their tune anymore. Yeah, Grover, I'm real afraid of the 1% "rebelling" -- I'm shaking all over. What're they going to do -- leave the country? "Go Galt" on us? Big deal. What are they going to do to the country that they haven't already done?
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 01:58 PM
sarcasmo (11,812 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. Grover you sound like a mouth piece for the 1%.
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 02:41 PM
yurbud (29,405 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
31. this is why we need polls back: to vote on whether this is more frivolous than Clinton impeachment
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It's ironic that like the filibuster, Republicans use impeachment when it's entirely inappropriate and Democrats won't use either when it's essential to protect our democracy and stop ongoing crimes.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
julian09 (591 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
33. The law was to sunset after ten years congress extended it two years. nt
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:50 PM
Ship of Fools (1,047 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
36. Barack Obama: Impale Grover Norquist if he doesn't sit down and STFU.
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An unofficial, unelected fuckwad nobody. How I'd like to take the Roves, Palins, and Norquists of the
world and bang their empty little heads together. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Sat Jan 28, 2012, 03:54 PM
Rex (27,400 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
37. Grover Norquist is a piece of crap.
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Any more questions?
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