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Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:17 AM

"Killer Robots" No Joke. Blink twice, and they'll be here....

Fully autonomous killing machines are just over the horizon. Check out this report from DemocracyNow a few months ago:



Nobel Peace laureate Jody Williams is joining with Human Rights Watch to oppose the creation of killer robots — fully autonomous weapons that could select and engage targets without human intervention. In a new report, HRW warns such weapons would undermine the safety of civilians in armed conflict, violate international humanitarian law, and blur the lines of accountability for war crimes. Fully autonomous weapons do not exist yet, but high-tech militaries are moving in that direction, with the United States taking the lead. Williams, winner of the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize for her work with the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, joins us along with Steve Goose, director of Human Rights Watch’s Arms Division.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/11/20/killer_robots_hrw_and_nobel_laureate

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Reply "Killer Robots" No Joke. Blink twice, and they'll be here.... (Original post)
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 OP
dotymed Feb 2013 #1
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #3
blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #2
drynberg Feb 2013 #4
2on2u Feb 2013 #5
dangin Feb 2013 #6
lunatica Feb 2013 #7
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #8
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #9
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #10
Blanks Feb 2013 #11
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #12
Blanks Feb 2013 #20
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #13
MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #14
yends21012 Feb 2013 #15
Mister K Feb 2013 #16
MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #17
Mister K Feb 2013 #18
MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #19
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #21
Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #22

Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:43 AM

1. What a world

"we" are allowing our corporate masters to create. Think of the possibilities....

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Response to dotymed (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:54 AM

3. The turning point of revolution is often when the order to "Fire on the Mob" is given.....

With autonomous robots, that is no longer a problem.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:46 AM

2. Everybody dies.

Well, the "lucky" ones, anyway.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:17 AM

4. I MIGHT BE "OLD FASHIONED" BUT

I truly believe that DRONES are where we need to focus, cause they are not only NOW but more and diversely perverse with each friggin' hour! Let's not get distracted, as these DRONES are the largest threat to international relations, peace, and civility the earth has ever seen. It's like the invention of gunpowder on friggin' crack! And we ain't even talkin' bout the corporations use of these new "tools" of deceit, spying, invasion of privacy & safety...oh Mama, ya ain't seen nuttin' yet...but ya will.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:20 AM

5. If land mines and cluster bombs had legs..... n/t

 

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:27 AM

6. Heard this on NPR

About a decade ago a retired general was being interviewed. He said then we were about a decade away from T-100s I think that is the model of the original terminator. Not covered in skin. Just a metal robot that carried weapons into combat.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:32 AM

7. That's what drones are

Next will be self correcting autonomous robots who learn. A lot like new email programs, spell check, and personalized ads on the internet.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:35 AM

8. Put it this way: "Fully Autonomous" won't be a sharp line crossed. It will be a gradual process....

Software will aid the operator more and more until the operator is no longer necessary.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:45 AM

9. I agree. But will it happen before the earth becomes uninhabitable to humans?

The race is on.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:49 AM

10. Strangely, I see it as interrelated....

As resources dwindle and environmental destruction leads to food shortages, the push for this technology to guard the 1% will increase.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:06 AM

11. That makes for an interesting horror scenario.

The wealthy create robots that are sentient beings to protect themselves from the masses.

How long before a sentient being sees that it is wrong to oppress so many so that so few can have so much.

They'd probably be better off leaving them on remote control.

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Response to Blanks (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:12 AM

12. To say nothing about the feasibility of ultra-high-tech after social breakdown....

How many hundreds of thousands of workers are needed to convert raw minerals into, say, an iPhone?

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:08 AM

20. ...or the raw materials to make batteries for the 'killer robots'.

Or mine the coal for conventional electric energy. The robots will have to be powered by something.

Wouldn't it be tragic if the unwashed masses attacked and the wealthy couldn't defend themselves because the long logistical tail required to have a robot army had decayed.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:18 AM

13. Of course an interrelationship exists. But we are assuming that the habitability of the earth

is deteriorating linearly or even geometrically. I see the possibility that there might be a step-function along the line. For example, we could have an event that kills the oceans. That may happen before the robots are ready to function w/o us.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:46 AM

14. I'm not terribly worried

about killer robots. Not the ground based versions anyway.
They aren't going to be "terminators"
They would be relatively easy to overcome with low tech countermeasures I would think.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:50 AM

15. Who would have thought that movies could be so prophetic...

such as Terminator or Matrix.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:57 AM

16. I Found Them.....

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Response to Mister K (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:59 AM

17. Now that

was the wedgie to end all wedgies.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:00 AM

18. Atomic....definately atomic.

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Response to Mister K (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:03 AM

19. Perhaps even

nookular.

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Response to Junkdrawer (Original post)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:09 AM

21. No autonomous mechs. That Djinni won't go back into the bottle, once released.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 8, 2013, 11:14 AM

22. Exactly. There was a time when computer chips were restricted for export....

over worries like this. But once much, much more powerful computers were MADE overseas, that backstop disappeared.

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