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Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:07 PM

 

Just one more in the long line of insults.

Donnie McClurkin wasn't enough. Rick Warren wasn't enough. Comparing our relationships to incest and pedophilia wasn't enough. Elena "No Right to Marriage" and Chuck "Openly, Aggressively" Hagel wasn't enough.

Now he's hanging out with the people who are trying to kill us.

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/obama-to-attend-religious-event-sponsored-by-group-tied-to-uganda-kill-the-gays-bill/politics/2013/02/06/60000

President Barack Obama Thursday morning will attend the 61st annual National Prayer Breakfast, sponsored by the Fellowship Foundation, a radically conservative religious right evangelical organization known to many as “The Family.” Members and associates of The Family have been tied to legislation in Uganda, known as the “Kill The Gays” bill of 2009, that mandates the death penalty for the “crime” of being gay.

Members of The Family, past and present, include current and former Republican Senators Chuck Grassley, Jim Inhofe, Tom Coburn, Jim DeMint, John Thune, John Ensign, and Strom Thurmond. Other members of The Family include Kansas Governor Sam Brownback, the late Chuck Colson (of Watergate and Manhattan Declaration fame,) disgraced former South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford, and disgraced former Congressman Chip Pickering.

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Reply Just one more in the long line of insults. (Original post)
Pab Sungenis Feb 2013 OP
redqueen Feb 2013 #1
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #5
redqueen Feb 2013 #15
RudynJack Feb 2013 #2
choie Feb 2013 #27
RudynJack Feb 2013 #29
bluestateguy Feb 2013 #3
Pab Sungenis Feb 2013 #4
bluestateguy Feb 2013 #6
Pab Sungenis Feb 2013 #7
bluestateguy Feb 2013 #10
SpartanDem Feb 2013 #14
Pab Sungenis Feb 2013 #19
RudynJack Feb 2013 #30
Swamp Lover Feb 2013 #8
bluestateguy Feb 2013 #11
blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #9
immoderate Feb 2013 #12
defacto7 Feb 2013 #21
forestpath Feb 2013 #13
redqueen Feb 2013 #17
forestpath Feb 2013 #18
redqueen Feb 2013 #20
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #22
cali Feb 2013 #16
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #23
defacto7 Feb 2013 #24
dballance Feb 2013 #25
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #26
stevenleser Feb 2013 #28

Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:10 PM

1. Let me know when he starts fawning over them.

“Doug Coe, the longtime National Prayer Breakfast organizer, is a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship to God."
Hillary Clinton

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Response to redqueen (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:20 PM

5. He calls Coburn his good friend, they have a whole thing going on...Grassley, Obama says is an

honest broker, a good man. He calls them fellow Christians as well. Each year they do this hate meeting and each year it is disgusting. One year the Family had the actual author of the 'Kill the Gays' bill flying in from Uganda to attend, and the President was going. Activists managed to get that halted.

Jesus forbade all public prayers, by the way, and pointedly said only hypocrites take part in such displays. In this regard, Jesus speaks for me.
Breakfast Of Hypocrites

Just editing to add a link from a story about the 2011 Prayer Breakfast as this is an ongoing and yearly repeated issue:
"Last year's protests were fueled by a proposed law in Uganda calling for life sentences for people convicted of homosexual activity; up to three years in jail for failure to report homosexual activity to police; and the death penalty for convicted homosexuals who are HIV-positive.

The bill -- still viable but on less prominent -- was drafted by David Bahati, a Ugandan lawmaker who's also an outspoken participant in The Fellowship (or The Family), the shadowy evangelical network that sponsors the venerable breakfast.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/01/the-god-factor-national-p_n_817151.html

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:38 PM

15. The Family is a nefarious force in DC.

It is sickening that this group in particular holds so much power. I'd be very interested to know why this annual observance of hypocrisy goes on. Just one of the many reasons religion sickens me... the cloak of legitimacy it offers.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:11 PM

2. Yawn

Doesn't constant manufactured outrage get exhausting?

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:03 AM

27. No.

But I'm sure sychophancy does.

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Response to choie (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:13 AM

29. I wouldn't know

Can you point to an example?

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:13 PM

3. I care about policies

And if you look at this administration's policies, you will find the most pro-LGBT administration in history. That has to count for something.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:16 PM

4. Don't Ask Don't Tell is about it.

 

And his hand was forced on that one. A lot of the "accomplishments" people tout are mere eyewash.

Lending legitimacy to a group calling for the death penalty for homosexuals trumps all the eyewash in the world.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:21 PM

6. That is false

The Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes law, ending the defense of DOMA in court, signing the UN treaty on gay rights.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:23 PM

7. The Hate Crimes Law

 

was only signed after James Byrd Jr., whose case wouldn't even have been affected by the law, was tacked onto it to dilute the fact it was about gay bashing. One more insult.

If you take an honest look at the President's "achievements" you'll find they're much ado about very little.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:30 PM

10. You do know that James Byrd was killed 10 years before Obama set foot in the Oval Office

And that bill was bottlenecked during the 2000's by Republicans in Congress and Bush who wouldn't have signed it anyway.

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:50 PM

19. The law would have done nothing for James Byrd.

 

Two of Byrd's killers were sentenced to death, and one has already been executed. The Death Penalty wasn't even considered for Shepard's killers.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:22 AM

30. And being the first President

to mention marriage equality in an inaugural address. The notion that Obama is anti-gay is just nonsensical.

And the idea that Kagen would vote against gay rights is just delusional.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:26 PM

8. That's the last straw!!!! I'm voting for Romney!!!!

 

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Response to Swamp Lover (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:31 PM

11. Oh I know.

I promise never to vote for Obama again!

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:27 PM

9. The dominionist "Oak Initiative" is invited to pray & preach @ the WH every Easter Sunday.

"Are You In?"

"Jesus said, 'I want you to do this publicly.' So what I want you to do is take the card, and in just a minute, and if you say 'Rick, I am willing to serve God's purposes in my generation.'

...

And I want you to just say, 'This is my commitment, before God and in front of everybody else. I'm in.' "

...

I'm looking at a stadium full of people who are saying 'whatever it takes'.

Whatever it takes, God. Time, talent, energy, money, effort, vision... God, whatever it takes.

Whatever it takes, that's what I'm going to do.

And I believe that today we are making history. We're making history that's going to start a movement that will bring a new Reformation in the church of God and a new spiritual awakening in our world. And, our world needs it.

And today, as you say 'whatever it takes,' you're saying publicly, "I'm in, God. I'm in...

...I'm in.'
"


From: Follow Jesus Like Nazis Followed Hitler, Rick Warren Tells Stadium Crowd: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/follow-jesus-like-nazis-f_b_158295.html

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:32 PM

12. Tough call here, but it's a free breakfast!

Last edited Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:16 AM - Edit history (1)

I don't think Obama wants to be there any more than they want to have him. If he skips it, they will say he's not a Christian. And if he denounces their bullshit, they point to that as proof that he hates Christians!

Remains to be seen how many votes might be affected, but many Americans are sensitive and fickle -- also stupid!

He has to take all of that into account!

--imm

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Response to immoderate (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:18 PM

21. As I grit my teeth and spit blows through my lips...

I'll have to admit you have a point. I'd like to think he could toss every enemy of our cause out the window, but he can't do that. Politics is still the game and to move the pieces around the board you have to play. Damn.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:37 PM

13. That is sickening. He should be speaking out against these bigots, not joining them

 

in their holier-than-though self-righteous hate fest.

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Response to forestpath (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:45 PM

17. Sadly, it is Obama who would lose credibility if he did.

Politicians have been cowering before religious nutjobs for decades. They hold enormous power, not just the individuals involved in this particular display of stunning hypocrisy, but the many who serve the RW spin machine who would use such comments as talking point fodder to sling at thoughtless religious voters of every ideology. For far too many adults who subscribe to religious beliefs, the idea of god comes before rational thought... Else we would not see events such as these continue.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:48 PM

18. These people have so much power because nobody ever stands up to them.

 

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Response to forestpath (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:57 PM

20. Too bad Bill didn't...

His bragging about his perfect attendance sure doesn't lend any credibility to the events critics.

My ire is for religion and the zealots who give it power. Not the first black president who is already dealing with more threats than his predecessors, but has also done more for LGBT rights.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:20 PM

22. well said.

It's nauseating that he has to give these ...I can't think of a word for them....any attention whatsoever, but he has to deal in the reality we live in. He can go, be personable, even learn more about them, and not legislate what they want.

Keep your enemies close.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:40 PM

16. In his capacity as the most powerful person in the world and perhaps

the most influential, he has endorsed marriage equality.

Each year several guest speakers visit the various events connected with the National Prayer Breakfast. However, the main event, the Thursday morning breakfast, typically has two special guest speakers: the President of the United States and a guest whose identity is kept confidential until that morning. Every U.S. president since Dwight D. Eisenhower has participated in the breakfast. Past keynote speakers include:

1973 Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)
1977 (25th Annual NPB) U.S. House Majority Leader James Wright (D-TX)
1987 Elizabeth Dole, United States Secretary of Transportation
1994 (42nd Annual NPB) Mother Teresa of Calcutta
2005 (53rd Annual NPB) Ambassador Tony P. Hall, U.S. Representative to the U.N. Agencies for Food and Agriculture
2006 (54th Annual NPB) Bono, Irish singer/songwriter and humanitarian
2007 (55th Annual NPB) Dr. Francis S. Collins, director of the National Human Genome Research Institute
2008 (56th Annual NPB) Ward Brehm, a Minnesotan who chairs the U.S.-African Development Foundation
2009 (57th Annual NPB) Tony Blair, former Prime Minister of the UK
2010 (58th Annual NPB) José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, Prime Minister of Spain
2011 (59th Annual NPB) Randall Wallace, Academy Award-Winning Motion Picture Producer/Writer/Director
2012 (60th Annual NPB) Eric Metaxas, author


That said, I'd rather no President went. And I think that it's pretty disgraceful to have it organized by the Fellowship.

I do think your high dudgeon on this is a little hysterical.

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Response to cali (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:23 PM

23. thank you -- I did not know this. n/t

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:28 PM

24. I hope he's safe.

It bothers me a little that he will be surrounded by many who would like to see him join the eternal club whose statues are scattered across DC.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:48 PM

25. Frankly I'd Rather Him Attend the Meaningless Breakfast So We Don't...

have to listen to the hyperbaric outrage of FOX, Rush and the rest of the RW pundits & politicians spew about how his not attending proves he's not a real Christian and how he hates Christians for the next 24-48 hour news cycle. A quote from the Leadership Development site: "Every sitting United States President, since Eisenhower, has attended and provided remarks at the Prayer Breakfast." It would be rather stupid for Obama to break that tradition right now with so many other important things on his plate.


I don't, for a minute, believe his attending this annual breakfast that has been going on for sometime is at all representative of his views. Nor is it meant to be an endorsement of the views of the Fellowship Foundation.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:50 PM

26. I believe every president has done this since it was begun, maybe give or take a few.

 

I don't know why that devilspawn convention is a big powerbroker, but it seems to be. It's like you're required to pay obesiance.

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Response to Pab Sungenis (Original post)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:05 AM

28. I'm going to have to think about this one a bit

Truth is, Obama has to meet with Republicans and various Republican groups that I consider bigoted in several dimensions. Bigoted against black people, bigoted against Hispanics , bigoted/sexist against women and definitely homophobic.

I think he has to meet with many of these groups and at least hear them out before voting against them and working against them.

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