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Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:41 PM

When will the "(Global) War on Terror"/"Overseas Contingency Operations" be over?

Will a "state of emergency" continue to exist that will require certain actions by the government?

As long as the AUMF is cited as the reason behind the authority of a certain action or actions, it can be said that a state of emergency exist. The AUMF has been cited as the authority behind warrantless wiretapping/electronic surveillance, detentions/indefinite detentions, "enhanced interrogation techniques" (torture), and drones/targeted killings.

There was a time when a state of emergency passed and all the powers that went with it ended.

Is that time over?








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Never. A state of emergency will continue to exist that requires certain actions by the govt.
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I'm sure there's a timeline that will end the present state of emergency that requires certain actions by the govt.
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Reply When will the "(Global) War on Terror"/"Overseas Contingency Operations" be over? (Original post)
Solly Mack Feb 2013 OP
think Feb 2013 #1
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #2
libtodeath Feb 2013 #3
Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #5
leftstreet Feb 2013 #10
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #16
Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #4
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #8
Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #9
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #6
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #17
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #20
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #21
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #22
sakabatou Feb 2013 #23
kudzu22 Feb 2013 #7
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #14
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #11
Octafish Feb 2013 #12
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #13
Initech Feb 2013 #15
datasuspect Feb 2013 #18
Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #19
tledford Feb 2013 #24
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #25
TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #26
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #27
Solly Mack Feb 2013 #28

Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:43 PM

1. Call me a pessimist in this regard...

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:44 PM

2. Never. We've got us a blank check for the Forever War.

After we've killed the last terrorist, his cousin will get pissed off, so we'll have to kill him, too. Ad infinitum.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:44 PM

3. This

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:45 PM

5. I wanted to include "Forever War" in my reply. You beat me to it. Congrats!

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:36 PM

10. +1

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:01 PM

16. and some people have become inured...

some never cared...and some don't see a reason to care.

It's the new norm, sadly.

There are children entering their teens who have always lived under this particular state of emergency. Who will never know anything different.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:44 PM

4. I don't know. Maybe we'll go on Egypt style. The only thing that is sure...

... is that while the state of emergency may go extinct one day, the powers that the gov declared itself to have won't, emergency or not.

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Response to Democracyinkind (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:33 PM

8. I agree with Frederick Douglass on the issue power.

“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:34 PM

9. Very apt quote. Thank you.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 01:47 PM

6. 1984 comes to mind.

Oh it will end, when the empire collapses.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:32 PM

17. It does. In more ways than one.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:45 PM

20. Look on the bright side, soon the war with Eurasia will be over

As we turn our sights on East Asia, the hated and dreaded enemy.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:54 PM

21. Yeah, except that doesn't work on me.

But I take your point.

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Response to Solly Mack (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:58 PM

22. Me neither

American Exceptionalism is a powerful drug...this is the kind of precedent that will ead to gnashing of teeth and rending of garments. Mind you, I staid away from the better understood mine field.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022324097

All ail big brother!

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:23 PM

23. Not to mention a two-minute hate.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:22 PM

7. It's amazing how many temporary solutions become permanent problems

Reason #452 why legislation should never be passed by an emotional congress.

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Response to kudzu22 (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:07 PM

14. Like the Patriot Act.

Though, honestly, I think they were more than happy to pass that bit of overreaching BS.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:37 PM

11. Never, as long as there are quarterly profits to be made

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:37 PM

12. Until the Money Runs Out.

As they print the stuff, I voted "Never."



Thank you for an outstanding poll and OP, Solly Mack. Infinite thanks.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 02:55 PM

13. I'm getting to the point that if my government wants endless war then I want

Universal health care, outstanding roads and infrastructure, mass transit, real/actual educational opportunities for any and all, a living wage, better and affordable housing, labor laws & unions that protect the worker and that can't be dismantled by states with deranged governors...and so many other things.


Alas...

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:27 PM

15. As long as there's money to be made off fighting an invisible enemy - never!

Who cares about peace when there's profit to be had?

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:33 PM

18. when OBL has the last laugh

 

which i think was his intention all along.

the terrorists already won this war.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 04:36 PM

19. Maybe when we're too broke to fund it. Or when the politicans can't drain it for votes.

My guess is the former. Admitting that we lost another war is too hard for politicians even when it's as obvious as this loss is.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:27 PM

24. I selected neither.

It will end when we, the voters, take our government back from the corporations and plutocrats and insist that it be ended.

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Response to tledford (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:29 PM

25. Thank you for telling me why!

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:31 PM

26. Best I can tell, when TeaPubliKlans want it over or when the nation collapses.

Democrats are to afraid and perhaps are even actually unwilling to end the fiasco due to fear of being called weak or taking the blame for any attack so the situation must continue until a puke finds a burning conscience and is willing to take the heat.

The other option other than collapse of the present government is to make our guys do it above any and all other considerations.

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:31 PM

27. When there's nothing left to steal here? n/t

 

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Response to Solly Mack (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:23 PM

28. I need more votes.

Surely people have an opinion on how long this will all last. Surely.

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