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Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:22 AM

OMG this is beyond anything I could have imagined they would do

A friend of mine told that people were on Emilie Parker's Facebook Memorial page making ugly comments, so I went to look and what I saw there was beyond hate and ugliness. Those poor parents are being accused of being actors, and some say the little girl is really alive. These "people" are soulless losers. I am shocked I knew there were crazies but didn't think they would attack a little girl's family on a memorial page.

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Reply OMG this is beyond anything I could have imagined they would do (Original post)
rbrnmw Feb 2013 OP
hrmjustin Feb 2013 #1
rbrnmw Feb 2013 #2
TheDebbieDee Feb 2013 #3
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #4
wvufan1988 Feb 2013 #9
rbrnmw Feb 2013 #12
freshwest Feb 2013 #5
rbrnmw Feb 2013 #6
defacto7 Feb 2013 #8
freshwest Feb 2013 #10
yardwork Feb 2013 #22
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #7
Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #11
Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #14
rbrnmw Feb 2013 #13
logosoco Feb 2013 #15
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #20
Initech Feb 2013 #16
nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #18
Initech Feb 2013 #19
rbrnmw Feb 2013 #21
booley Feb 2013 #17

Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:25 AM

1. It is horrible. These people have no respect for the dead.

These sandy hook truthers are rotten people.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:28 AM

2. yes they are I left there praying

That hell was real so those assholes could go there

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:38 AM

3. Hopefully the 4-Chan posters will find out about this and take action.......

I think they're a group of stalking posters that harrass other stalking/asshole posters for the greater good of mankind.

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:43 AM

4. They have now disabled the thread, so posts can't be left.

Dear God, what is wrong with some people. That was truly hateful.

Rest in peace, Sweet Emilie. You will be missed.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:10 AM

9. Comments on photos

They may have disabled the thread, but people are still leaving terrible comments on her pictures. Truly disgusting

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Response to wvufan1988 (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:32 AM

12. that is the comments I saw

they are commenting on most of them they are a hateful vile den of vipers

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:48 AM

5. These people are members of the CT cult, inoculated against reason and reality, for they have now...

developed a different view of how the world is arranged and history and truly believe in the END GAME, Police State, and all of that. They are afraid and hostile and are being told 24/7 that anyone who disagrees with them is going to be one of the ones killing them.

This stuff is very intense propaganda and you will find people of all ages who have been taken in by it and believe the rest of us are all nothing but 'sheeple' or complicit in a conspiracy to take their lives. Any piece of news is seized upon and added to their list of crimes by Obama, etc.They are afraid of everything, it's a carefully crafted paranoia.

People have been killing other people, literally over this stuff, ambushing police because they say they are going to do all kinds of things to them. They do not for one minute consider that any of this is true, since they haven't seen the blood for themselves.

But they have an answer for that too. At every one of these mass shootings, they say there was a false flag event, mind control, or whatever. If people died, it was to make what they believe is coming happen. We're in a bad place with people who won't listen now.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:52 AM

6. That's truly frightening nt

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Response to freshwest (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:01 AM

8. well said...

maybe prophetic.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:20 AM

10. For them, it is. Their leaders have taught them the plot goes back hundreds or thousands of years.

And in back of it all, is that they have been decieved all along, that everyone has been. It creates a world view that all is linked to destiny, fate, religion, whatever. And that the only way to escape is to destroy every power except their own families and the cult, I guess.

There are good reasons to devolve and decentralize some aspects of society, for purposes of maintaining the ecosystem. Part of their belief is that TPTB want to eliminate the vast majority of humanity. There is some common sense in that idea.

We see the concentration of wealth and how war kill people. How our food, air and water are adulterated or polluted. How many people are suffering from chronic diseases. and all the inequality in the world. We know the uber rich don't love us, but some of them are pushing us to have babies like there is no tomorrow.

What's the truth? Is it all a game? IDK. But by not working on what we can do, as we are not all powerful, we leave much undone and cede power to those who mean mischief.

Another aspect that scares these people and forces them to be hostile now are the radical versions of religion that are being taught - that the Devil is literally running the world - as the older religions said. And that every thing that is new and modern and scientific will be used to destroy humanity and nature.

Why? Because he's an evil entity who has great powers to influence humans and some have fallen into his hands and are his tools to kill the righteous. Who are those people? Well, they are liberals, Democrats, pro-choicers, gays, etc. The representation of Satan on Earth.

Is it any wonder they are so vicious? IDK how we are going to survive this if these people don't slow down... Or maybe they will just burn out like many movements will do... Obama is trying to move us to a more peaceful world - although they still to the belief it's all a sham and he really is going to kill us.

How does the world end, as the old poem went, not with a bang, but a whimper? They may cry and be upset and then wake up to see no one wants to take their guns and lives, that there are no death panels, and things can be neutral.



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Response to freshwest (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:41 PM

22. I've seen this happen to a family member. He is literally brainwashed by hate radio.

He listens to right-wing radio all day and it has warped his mind, literally. He's now stockpiling weapons in preparation for a race war.

I believe that this brainwashing was planned and orchestrated by the Koch Brothers and other large corporations in collaboration with the Republican National Committee. The goal is to get people to vote for right-wing Republicans. Once in office these Republicans pass laws that benefit corporations.

The social issues are used to frighten and enrage people. Abortion, gay rights, even gun control - these are not the primary concerns of the people funding this campaign. They are simply used as ways to get people upset so that they will mindlessly vote Republican.

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:57 AM

7. People do this on every facebook page when someone is killed

 

It's sad. And no, they don't care. Here's my explanation as to why -- not only regarding comments like these, but as an explanation for some of the violence as well. I think to understand it you have to look at society.

President Obama challenged us with this question: Do we want a society in which we are all in this together, or in which we are all in this alone.

Our answer, as always, ever since the post-war generation at any rate, is ALONE. We aren't a society, we are largely a collection of individuals all looking out for number one. We live in a culture that worships the anti-social personality. We bow-down to greed and self-interest over everything else, we plan vacations while our children lose their homes, we give tax cuts to the wealthy while tens of millions of kids go hungry, we don't care about education or our infrastructure or unaffordable healthcare. We don't care, unless it's us. We have a generation that burned the country to the ground, snorted the ashes, then pissed on the smouldering rubble.

We call this the American way.

And we wonder why disenfranchized and disturbed people go from being anti-social -- as we taught them -- to sociopathic. How, we wonder, can these monsters do this? Do they not care about the children or other victims? The answer, of course, is no.

No.

"Some men just want to watch the world burn." That line from a recent movie resonated with a generation, not because they were disturbed by the idea, but because they could sympathize. They want to watch the world burn, and they are one tiny psychotic break away from striking the match.

Someone dancing onto a grieving parents facebook page and trolling is just their way of doing exactly that. This time. It's their way of saying "Fuck you and your loss, I don't care." Some of it is no doubt bravado, some is cranks, some trolls doing their trolling thing, and some is genuine. If you don't think the world cares about you this is what you are going to give back in return.

In my opinion

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:31 AM

11. And for the past few decades, a lot of parents have been letting the pop culture raise their kids

They don't provide any moral or ethical guidance of their own, all the while telling the kids how wonderful and special they are, buying them more Stuff than they could possibly use, and fiercely combating anyone (teacher, neighbor, relative, random stranger) who doesn't see their little treasures as perfect and beyond reproach.

What does the pop culture tell us? You are what you own and wear. Violence solves problems and makes you a hero. Books are for nerds.

This kind of parenting leads to kids who go waaay beyond healthy questioning of authority. It turns into a "fuck all of you--I'll do what I want" attitude. It's the kind of parenting that creates Ayn Rand fans.

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Response to Lydia Leftcoast (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:12 PM

14. I would respectfully suggest that it goes beyond this

 

Again, respectfully, I believe that it is an oversimplification. It's like looking at a painting, singling out a few brush strokes clean at the bottom, and saying that it is these which make the painting suck. So let's take a step back and consider the entire piece -- or in the case of our culture, the sociopathic masterpiece.

These evil young people and their failure parents did not create this society nor are they the masters of it. They are, in fact, the largely powerless recent arrivals, they are immigrants fresh off the boats, and they are reacting (as rationally as any other individual or generation) to the society and world they see before them. As observers of their behavior, we can see what kind of conclusions many have reached about this society and its values and traditions. A new arrival at a nude beach, basing their conclusions upon what they see before them and knowing nothing more than this, might well respond by stripping off their clothing, and so it is here. The difference being that they are stripping off their clothing, while naked adults and seniors criticize their nudity and immorality.

Morality is nothing more than a self-accepted set of rules we establish as as operating instructions for our minds. Our minds will always attempt to solve problems and reach conclusions based upon this set of values -- so much so that we feel an automatic and "instinctive" negative reaction to anything which violates whatever values we have established as this moral foundation. But these values are self-accepted, there is no natural or human law which determines them. So, for example, a muslim might react with seemingly instant, automatic, and genuine revulsion at a slab of bacon or the glimpse of a woman's hair, while a a westerner fails to note these things at all. A seventy-year old man might react with horror at the sight of two men kissing or a black man as President, while a fifteen year old greets the sight of both with indifference. Both reactions are proper and moral to that individual, as one's moral computer code is always voluntarily accepted and determined.

While these values are self-accepted and ever-evolving, they are often largely formed by what one sees around them. We teach children and adults what we consider to be moral behavior, not only with books and teachers, but through osmosis. There are, however, certain 'moral' instructions we try to ensure that they absorb and accept. Worship god, god is real, respect your elders, do unto others, and so on. Often these moral values are designed to minimize or even eliminate the value of the indivual and elevate the instructor or shaman. But that teaching always takes second place to what they observe, and as morals are always self-accepted and individual, what a teacher says is of secondary importance to what the student SEES.

For example, we say to respect your elders, and they see that failing to do so results in pain. Good tip. Do this or you get hurt. We also say to give to the poor, blessed are the poor, and to do unto others -- but they see the people telling them this are not doing it themselves, and that there are no consequences for them if they choose to put this particular 'value' into the rubbish bin. Again, and this is impoprtant to understand: a moral code is NOTHING more than a set of basic rules that form the foundation of problem solving, voluntarily accepted by each individual (and unique to each of us), that forms the basic foundation for what we consider proper and improper, good and bad, smart and really dumb. Which hopefully brings us back to where we started. And I will ask a deceptively simple question:

What is this 'moral' code that young people hold, how (if at all) does it differ from society at large, and how do you suppose they arrived at it?

That is what I was attempting to answer.

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:58 PM

13. I had to post the typical Troofer comment

Wow for all you who belive im sorry but for us who dont we have a right to are opinon and its america we can post how we fill wear we want and we can express what we fill and what we want till they try and takr that from us as well. So call us names but u dont see us who dont belive calling u that do names be respectful as well freedom of speech and that goes for wear we post it as well.


Stupid ignorant Moran

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:30 PM

15. It's like some crazy mash up between how they see the bible and the Constitution, they honestly

think that a person can think that a belief is just the same as a fact. And if you don't like the facts, you can just not believe in them.
Or something. I can't quite understand it. And even if I got a bead on it, I don't think there is a cure.

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Response to rbrnmw (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:37 PM

20. God, if I had a penny for every time I read that

usually the last refuge of a poster who has fallen too far down the abyss of logic to know which way is up...

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:54 PM

16. Ugh the Sandy Hook truthers are truly a horrible group of people.

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Response to Initech (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:10 PM

18. I'm just worried that this harrassment will lead to a parent's suicide

I'm sure they are on the edge as it is after such a tragic loss and then to have to endure this hatefulness on top of it. And I'm sure these "truthers" will just say it was because the lying caught up to them.

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Response to nobodyspecial (Reply #18)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:17 PM

19. I cannot imagine what those parents are going through right now.

The hatefulness coming from these pieces of shit is just an all time new low. I'd think about joining the witness protection program if I were the parents.

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Response to Initech (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:36 PM

21. I truly believe some of those freaks are dangerous

I'm worried about all of the families safety especially the Parker's

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Response to rbrnmw (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:59 PM

17. too easy to be an ass on the internet

... since one is generally anonymous and not in direct contact with the person one is attacking

Eventually this lack of accountability allows this to escalate to truly insane levels.

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