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Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:33 PM

 

kos(himself)-2016 can be Hillary's ...(Texas, KT, plus...)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/04/1184561/-2016-can-be-Hillary-s?showAll=yes
2016 can be Hillary's- by Kos
Who needs to wait until 2024 for Texas to be competitive
The results are within the margin of error, but Clinton leads Marco Rubio 46% to 45%, Chris Christie 45% to 43% and Rick Perry 50% to 42%. She has a +7 favorability rating (50/43) with Texas voters and strong support among moderate voters—72% view her favorably, and she crushes her potential GOP opponents among this voting group.
“If Clinton is the 2016 nominee, she could conceivably expand the electoral map for Democrats in deep-red Texas,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling

Not just Texas. How about Kentucky?

Clinton has a 48/42 favorability rating with Kentucky voters. By comparison Barack Obama's approval rating is 38/59. Clinton would lead Rand Paul 47-42 and Marco Rubio 48-40 in hypothetical match ups. That's because Clinton gets 73-74% of the Democratic vote in those match ups, similar to the 72-73% of the Republican vote that Paul and Rubio get. The reason Democrats lose time after time in Kentucky despite having a large registration advantage is that a very large number of Democrats don't vote Democratic for President, but Clinton would win over a lot of the party faithful who have declined to support Obama, Kerry, and Gore.

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The point here isn't that Hillary would win both those states. It would be a longshot. Point is, if she's making states like those two competitive, what prayer would Republicans have in the traditional battlegrounds?

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Reply kos(himself)-2016 can be Hillary's ...(Texas, KT, plus...) (Original post)
graham4anything Feb 2013 OP
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #1
DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #2
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #3
DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #7
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #8
DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #9
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #10
DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #11
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #13
BlueStater Feb 2013 #12
bluestate10 Feb 2013 #5
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #14
davidpdx Feb 2013 #17
graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
theKed Feb 2013 #15
graham4anything Feb 2013 #16
theKed Feb 2013 #18
bluestate10 Feb 2013 #4

Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:38 PM

1. Can't we just wait two years for this discussion?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:40 PM

2. No

Because a lot of folks want to make sure that no would be Obama emerges, they want everything locked up, and all of us in lockstep Goosestep for Hillary.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:44 PM

3. What is a "would be Obama"?

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:56 PM

7. in other words

some young 40 something that comes from out of nowhere to beat her. We cannot have that, instead, we need to march right along to wherever Hillary wants us to go,especially off to war and entitlement cutting, just like her Hubby Bill always wanted to do.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:58 PM

8. drivel

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:38 PM

9. Gee, I think I know who you are voting for

and as much as i will work for her if she is the nominee, I cannot wait for people to howl when she actually cuts entitlements and goes to war.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:56 PM

10. you are silly

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:28 PM

11. NOPE

Just honest. Hillary is not a GOP, but she is not, nor ever will be, a liberal,and you know it.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:09 AM

13. I have not given any thought to the possible 2016 candidates.

It was just your odd hyperbolic post that got my attention. Stay healthy - you have 4 years to go.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:32 PM

12. I really don't care about a candidate being young.

I would happily vote for someone in their 50s or 60s if I'm liked them enough. Unfortunately, Hillary is not that candidate.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:46 PM

5. No. Because Hillary is running and some on DU need to accept that. nt

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:18 AM

14. She is welcome to run, but can we hold off on the coronation?

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:07 AM

17. We saw how well that went last time

Quite a number of people declared the primary over and told anyone opposed to her to "deal with it".

The fact is there will be a primary in 2016. I will vote for the person who I feel is the best person in the primary.

History rears its ugly head and people fail to learn from their mistakes.

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Response to DURHAM D (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:47 PM

6. Normally, the Olympics teams have a coach way before each 2 year Olympics

 

Making 2014 part of a 2016 Presidential will get voters excited

unlike in 2010 when voters stayed away because it wasn't a Presdidential

Because SCOTUS demands all voters remain interested and having a Coach to lead the team
shows continuation and leads to victory

People seeing that Democratic candidates can win Kentucky and Texas, will lead to more people being democratic voters in 2014.

and having a nominee in thought prior will save billions in wasted campaign time and dollars
and is better to coordinate a 50 state response in 2016 anyhow

IMHO of course.

Long gone are the days when both the Summer and Winter Olympics are the same year.
Now there is an Olympics every two years but the thoughts to the next one are already way planned in advance in most sports played at an Olympics

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:44 AM

15. But...we have a coach.

We're halfway through the season, on the way to the playoffs. No need to switch out now.

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Response to theKed (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:10 AM

16. Defending champions, no reason to change TeamChicago for 16 20 24 28

 

Hillary45/Biden or Hillary45/Janet Napolitano for the continuation of President Obama44.

That is my whole point.
Glad to see you coming round to that view.

NO primary challenge is the best way to keep the Super Bowl Ring from another team.

Team Chicago, as Tina Turner sang "Simply the Best".

And Hillary45 is part of Team Chicago.

followed by Team Michelle46

For the continuation of the overall TeamObama agenda and TeamChicago in 2016 2020 2024 2028
and a SCOTUS that will be 8 to 1 or 9 to 0 by that time.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:49 AM

18. Good Lord, No.

No No No.

I am not "coming around" to your whackadoodle prediction. I expect and look forward to a vigorous primary challenge. We need to know that whoever moves on to the next round is the right guy or girl for the job. If Clinton is the one for that nomination, then she has nothing to fear from a primary challenge. And make no mistake - she is not "Team Obama". Obama is Team Obama. Clinton is Team Clinton. She was in 2008, she will be (should she reverse her decision and choose to run) in 2016.

If More-Than-A-Little-Right-of-Center Clinton is the continuation of Team Obama, maybe it's time for a change of direction.

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Response to graham4anything (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:45 PM

4. I felt the President Obama could have put Texas and Kentucky more in play if he had

spent a bit of time in the two states. If Clinton devote resources to both states, the urban and suburban vote could allow her to win both.

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