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Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:04 PM

Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress, Report Finds



Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul has been named one of the most corrupt members of Congress in a new report from the watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

The report says Paul "double-billed" his travel expenses a number of times over the last decade, meaning he may have been reimbursed for the same flights both under his official allowance as congressman, and by either non-profit groups under his control or his campaign committee.

The revelation would be ironic in part because Paul made fiscal responsibility a central tenet of his 2012 presidential campaign. The congressman celebrated a major victory in July when his bill to audit the Federal Reserve for greater transparency passed the House.

Paul's possible double-billing has been in the public eye since Roll Call first reported it in February, but CREW says there is no evidence Paul has repaid the money since.

A request for comment from Paul's office was not immediately returned.


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Reply Ron Paul One Of The Most Corrupt Members Of Congress, Report Finds (Original post)
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 OP
dorkzilla Feb 2013 #1
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #4
dorkzilla Feb 2013 #14
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #20
Grins Feb 2013 #22
dorkzilla Feb 2013 #35
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #37
Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #27
dorkzilla Feb 2013 #34
Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #38
roxy1234 Feb 2013 #41
DesMoinesDem Feb 2013 #2
arcane1 Feb 2013 #5
DesMoinesDem Feb 2013 #6
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #9
cheapdate Feb 2013 #28
pscot Feb 2013 #33
progressoid Feb 2013 #3
Scuba Feb 2013 #7
Blanks Feb 2013 #8
otohara Feb 2013 #10
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #21
timdog44 Feb 2013 #11
spanone Feb 2013 #12
shenmue Feb 2013 #13
busterbrown Feb 2013 #15
Dopeslap Feb 2013 #16
Thinkingabout Feb 2013 #17
Recursion Feb 2013 #18
Prometheus Bound Feb 2013 #19
KurtNYC Feb 2013 #40
me b zola Feb 2013 #23
RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #24
cali Feb 2013 #25
Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #26
Sheepshank Feb 2013 #29
ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #30
rivegauche Feb 2013 #31
JHB Feb 2013 #32
CrispyQ Feb 2013 #36
Tab Feb 2013 #39

Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:11 PM

1. Ho boy...

My brother and sister are both Paulbots...I'm not going to answer the phone tonight.

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:22 PM

4. Yes I know a lot of Paulbots....even if it's an older article....

...I'm making sure they all see it.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:56 PM

14. LOL! You little devil you...

I just can't stand the insanity anymore. Brother and I got into a fight the other night because he is one of the "Newtown is a hoax" nut jobs. Loves "Dr. Paul" and Alex Jones in equal measure.

I keep begging my father to tell me they're the milkman's kids.

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:36 AM

20. My condolences about your bro.

I have a sister and BIL who are rabid teabaggers who can't stand "socialism" but never EVER send their SS or disability checks back. They sure like "socialism" when the money's coming THEM. Blazing idiots.

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:41 AM

22. "Dr. Paul"?

He loves Paul Krugman, PhD?

Me too!

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Response to Grins (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:57 PM

35. Yeah, and they say it as though he's a close personal friend ("Dr Paul was just saying...")

Also, under the tutelage of the good doctor these 2 siblings, who by the way have zero mathematical aptitude, have blossomed into Economists.

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #35)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 12:08 AM

37. "Dr. Paul! Dr. Paul!"

It's noticeable to the point where it's creepy.

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:01 PM

27. I have one of those in my family, too.

it is fucking MADDENING. "Oh, there are inconsistencies to the story"

Alex Jones is a fucking shitbag.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:52 PM

34. That's the worst part for me, trying to make sense of the thought process...

When I dazzle him this thing called facts his response is "that's a straw man, they're full of shit. Wake up before its too late!". He was trying to explain the New World Order to me and I realize he's talking about an alleged plot that's been going on for the better part of a century. I said "well if it's true, they're either the most incompetent or laziest group of people...you'd think that people as cunning and devious as you say they are would have succeeded in their bid to control the world by now."

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Response to dorkzilla (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 03:08 AM

38. Right. Or--- they control the whole planet, but they're terrified of your AR-15.

Not sure how that works.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 09:41 AM

41. And they would probably refer the video segment

 

by Lawrence O'donnell to you where he sorta debunks the whole Ron Paul is stealing tax payer money for flights.



The fucker has a lot of things wrong with him but stealing tax payer money for flight isn't one of em. I bet if someone looks closely, they will find connection between him and the Koch brothers.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:16 PM

2. This article is from September of last year.

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Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:26 PM

5. Of course, that doesn't make it false

And since this isn't LBN, it's allowed

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:31 PM

6. True, but I do recall at the time this being debunked.

Not that it matters. If I remember correctly CREW didn't say he was one of the most corrupt members of congress, they just gave him a dishonorable mention based on some allegations made buy a republican journalist that was supporting Newt.

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Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:38 PM

9. "a republican journalist that was supporting Newt."

As if the book sales weren't enough....

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Response to DesMoinesDem (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:12 PM

28. "...some allegations"

CREW alleges that evidence exists that shows Paul improperly accepted public reimbursement for expenses on 52 occasions. Some of the evidence -- which is meticulously documented in the CREW report -- includes the official U.S. House of Representatives 'Statements of Disbursement", photocopies of Ron Paul's American Express statements, and photocopies of cancelled checks from the Liberty Committee.

Paul's spokesman practically admits some of the allegations may be true, while at the same time trying to dismiss the activity as inconsequential and the investigation of it as petty and partisan. Bullshit.

CREW has a long history of accurately exposing genuine misdeeds by elected public officials. This is more than just "...some allegations."

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:44 PM

33. i'm betting he doesn't fly coach

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:17 PM

3. Oh, it was probably just a clerical error.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:31 PM

7. No one could have predicted that.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:44 PM

8. I read an article about his ineffectiveness as a legislator...

About the time his huge victory with the 'FED audit' legislation passed the house.

He doesn't play well with others and that's why so very few of his legislative efforts are seen all the way through (or acted on at all). I'm sure his 'audit the FED' legislation only passed the house because so many congresspersons knew that the senate wouldn't even look at it.

I believe he has some kind of gold business too; which is probably why he rails on about returning to the gold standard. He expects to personally benefit from that somehow.

I saw a video where he discussed eliminating the FED and he said he didn't know what it would be replaced with; we just need to eliminate it. The man is a loose cannon. Hopefully he won't be back. It's a shame he doesn't take his son out of politics with him.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:38 PM

10. Grifters

Ayn Rand, Greenspan, and The Paul's - effing grifters...

Matt Taibbi wrote about this - Griftopia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griftopia

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Response to otohara (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 08:38 AM

21. I have to get that book. n/t

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:47 PM

11. One of the few

that I thought had some good ideas. Fooled again. His spawn is even worse.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:48 PM

12. k&r...

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:53 PM

13. Aha!

Gotcha! Busted!

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:28 PM

15. Funny thing about Paul was.........

that most of his supporters were young college aged men. They just adored his stance on war, pot and hookers. I think that once they signed on with Paul, they couldn’t have cared less about his support for States Rights or his anti-woman’s rights rhetoric,,

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:40 PM

17. The truth is "No Spend" Paul charged lots for his travel, no cheap deals for him.

Instead of purchasing his tickets early his excuse was he might to have to change his travel plans but a cheap ticket with changes was cheaper than the tickets he was purchasing. He is rotten to the core, attaching earmarks to bills he knew was going to pass and voted against the bills while claiming he did nit vote for any spending and run to his district with the proceeds. The Paul ots will defend hi. to the end but it does not change his dirty games.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:44 PM

18. My God I love seeing this loony taken down a notch

Maybe this will shut some of the Paulites up.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:30 PM

19. It's good to know double billing of travel expenses is as corrupt as US Congress members get.

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Response to Prometheus Bound (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:50 AM

40. Yes. I feel much better now too.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:47 AM

23. Imagine that

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:48 AM

24. Like I've said all along

Never trust someone with two first names.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:50 AM

25. He's no longer in Congress.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:55 AM

26. Blasphemmmmmy! He's the Ron Paul LURVOLUTION!

LURV! LURV! SO MUCH LURV HE WANTS TO DO AWAY WITH THE FDA! GETTIN RID OF NOT JUST TEH ILLUMINATI FED LIZARDS BUT ALSO THEIR TOTALITARIANIFICATIN' FOOD REGULATIONS? THAT"S PURE LURRRRRRV!!!!!



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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:18 PM

29. While double billing travel expenses is unethical, and corrupt...this is one of the MOST corrupt?

seems like the bar had been set exceptionally low here (and I'm not Paul or Rand cheerleader), and a ton of other excruciatingly nasty shit being completely ignored.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:52 PM

30. No doubt. But this is nonetheless fun to rub into the faces of PaulBots everywhere.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:54 PM

31. No, really?

An insane, mean-spirited right-wing douchebag is a hypocrite? Imagine my surprise.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 01:03 PM

32. IIRC, he was tops in nepotism too

I'm not where I can track down the source, but I recall a report saying he had the most relatives as (campaign?) staffers, so his perpetual campaign organization also served as a family cash cow.

But then, if you believed what he claimed about racism in his newsletters (I.e., that he didn't have a hand in the newsletters) then he effectively admitted to defrauding his subscribers. It was one or the other.

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:29 PM

36. Bookmarking for future reference. -nt

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 05:59 AM

39. He reminds me of a 21st-century Ross Perot

Initially he looks fine, revolutionary even. And yet some of his policies and proposals are decidely retrograde. It's important to keep in mind that Paul is a Libertarian more than an Republican. As for double-dipping, I can't speak to that, his persona is that everything is transparent and above-board, but if he really was doing it (to his knowledge, as opposed to his campaign manager) then that to me would be the kiss of death.

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