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Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:36 PM

Young black men and minorities should start buying up AR-15's and ammunition.

Then they should organize into community defense groups. In doing so, they should march openly in their neighborhoods with their assault weapons.

This seems to be the last resort in defending ourselves from the present trash that thinks they have the right to strike fear into everyone else under the guise of the 2nd Amendment.

How long would it take them to pass a new law?

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Reply Young black men and minorities should start buying up AR-15's and ammunition. (Original post)
kentuck Feb 2013 OP
JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #1
jberryhill Feb 2013 #2
jeff47 Feb 2013 #56
Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #138
Lint Head Feb 2013 #3
onehandle Feb 2013 #4
Ian Iam Feb 2013 #152
Recursion Feb 2013 #5
bongbong Feb 2013 #8
Recursion Feb 2013 #9
bongbong Feb 2013 #10
Recursion Feb 2013 #12
bongbong Feb 2013 #16
Recursion Feb 2013 #17
bongbong Feb 2013 #22
donheld Feb 2013 #127
DonP Feb 2013 #148
catbyte Feb 2013 #156
Recursion Feb 2013 #157
catbyte Feb 2013 #158
el_bryanto Feb 2013 #19
bongbong Feb 2013 #26
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #50
Recursion Feb 2013 #53
Recursion Feb 2013 #13
bongbong Feb 2013 #20
backwoodsbob Feb 2013 #15
bongbong Feb 2013 #18
el_bryanto Feb 2013 #21
bongbong Feb 2013 #28
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bongbong Feb 2013 #38
el_bryanto Feb 2013 #44
11 Bravo Feb 2013 #49
bongbong Feb 2013 #52
11 Bravo Feb 2013 #62
bongbong Feb 2013 #63
11 Bravo Feb 2013 #71
bongbong Feb 2013 #73
sylvi Feb 2013 #64
bongbong Feb 2013 #66
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bongbong Feb 2013 #75
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Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2013 #95
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bongbong Feb 2013 #94
derby378 Feb 2013 #122
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #155
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:37 PM

1. I like your way of thinking!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:40 PM

2. That's how we got the 1968 law passed


If it wasn't for the Black Panthers doing exactly what you describe, the white majority would have never agreed to restrictions on gun sales.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:59 PM

56. +infinity (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #56)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:11 PM

138. Yep. Assassinations my ass. Now all the "libs" in this thread...

get to reflect on something they steadfastly refused to recognize before: the racist roots of gun control, and then only because other stereotypes of gun-owners/whites could be force-fit into their minds.

Oh, the irony and the agility! But it is progress.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:43 PM

3. Walk passed Ted "Pants Crapper" Nugent and Wayne La Pricks's houses.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:56 PM

4. Not in their neighborhoods, but in the neighborhoods of 1%ers and red, red districts.

That would do it.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:07 PM

152. Brilliant!

 

I wish I could DURec individual replies!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 03:59 PM

5. Like this guy?



I seem to recall DU being pissed about him.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:18 PM

8. LOL

 

If he hadn't been dressed as a "house negro" (using language from Django Unchained), he wouldn't have made it a foot before he was hogtied, or more likely just gunned down in a hail of bullets.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:18 PM

9. Do you enjoy imagining completely absurd things like that?

Last edited Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:55 PM - Edit history (1)

We both know that is not true.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:21 PM

10. LOL

 

I'm making my comments based upon lots of documented history. Pesky facts and all that.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:24 PM

12. How many people have been shot at tea party rallies? (nt)

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Response to Recursion (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:27 PM

16. ???

 

What the hell does that have to do with the fact that black people regularly get shot to death in America?

And in answer to your goalpost-moving, there is PLENTY of violence amongst teabaggers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=violent+teabaggers

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Response to bongbong (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:28 PM

17. You moved the goalposts. You said armed black men would scare teabaggers

I pointed you to an armed black man that teabaggers love, and now you're saying "well they'll have to dress a certain way".

that black people regularly get shot to death in America?

Not by teabaggers, though.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:31 PM

22. LOL

 

> You said armed black men would scare teabaggers

Nope, never said it. Show me where. I'll wait. Until then, bone up on your reading comprehension.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:18 PM

127. I'm on your side

You just know if a bunch of inner-city looking black and Latino people showed up in mass at a gun shows things would change.

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Response to donheld (Reply #127)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:36 PM

148. Spoken like somebody that's obviously never been to a gun show

I go to gun shows and shooting ranges in the Chicago area pretty regularly.

African American, Latino and Asians are all there in spite of your narrow vision stereotyping.

Do you assume, for some odd reason, that African Americans can't or don't want to enjoy the shooting sports? Or are you one of those that think they all live in city ghettos?

While we're at it, tell us all what an "inner-city looking black and Latino" looks like, so we can recognize them.

You and Bong Bong make a great pair.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:51 PM

156. 5 were shot at those recent Love Your Gun Day rallies

Does that count? Odds are most of them were baggers.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #156)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:58 PM

157. I disagree with you on their politics

Then again I know a whole lot of gun people.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #157)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 09:05 PM

158. So do I. My dad had me target shooting when I was 8. I am 57 now. I am not

afraid of guns, only of the nuts who want no regulation at all. Odds are the same idiots blathering about their Sacred Right to Bear Arms are also the same ones who want to silence all of us evil libs and supported oppressive voter ID laws for "those people." Rights are only sacred when they're theirs and it's sickening.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:29 PM

19. Ha ha ha - all the people that disagree with me are racist idiots.

Must be wonderful to have that certainty.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:33 PM

26. LOL

 

> all the people that disagree with me are racist idiots.

You are reading somebody's mind, but not mine!

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Response to Recursion (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:54 PM

50. I think you meant "know" and not "no". Gotta be careful. Don't let that mask slip.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:56 PM

53. Thank you

Nothing beats pointing out a typo.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:25 PM

13. So, should the OP edit to say "minorities should buy weapons and dress a certain way"?

Maybe I'm missing your point.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:29 PM

20. Take it up with him n/t

 

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:26 PM

15. a house negro?..really?

any black man in a suit is now a house negro?

Are you always this racist or did the gun debate bring it out?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:28 PM

18. LOL

 

Just referencing a currently popular movie.

Take up your claims of racism with Tarantino.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:30 PM

21. Sweet Jesus

No I don't think we should take it up with Tarantino - i think we should take it up with you - since you are the one who said it here.

That said, someone who starts many of his/her posts with LOL may not be taking this seriously.

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:35 PM

28. LOL

 

> i think we should take it up with you

OK, well, as I said in my original post it was in the words of Django Unchained. There ya' go!

> hat said, someone who starts many of his/her posts with LOL may not be taking this seriously.

The entire "I gotta have a gun!" mindset from the Delicate Flowers is worthy of little else than derision. Their cowardice & fear is helping destroy America.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:40 PM

34. And you think that lets you off the hook?

So I could say any hateful nasty thing I wanted so long as I quoted a film? And anyway even as you quote Tarantino you are a coward about it - that movie doesn't say Negro when it can say another word starting with N.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #34)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:43 PM

38. ???

 

> So I could say any hateful nasty thing I wanted so long as I quoted a film?

I'm not the DU censor, so let 'er rip!

> that movie doesn't say Negro when it can say another word starting with N.

I don't like that word, so I don't use it.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:49 PM

44. Nice to see you have some standards

Such as they are.

Bryant

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Response to bongbong (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:53 PM

49. You don't use words that you "don't like". So apparently you're fond of the phrase "House Negro"?

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:55 PM

52. Thanks for the concern

 

> apparently you're fond of the phrase "House Negro"?

Apparently your mind-reading skilz aren't up to snuff. Get a refund wherever you took classes.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #52)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:11 PM

62. No mind-reading skills, but I do teach reading comprehension, so you better hurry up and delete ...

your earlier posts, Sparky.
It is not in dispute that you used the phrase "House Negro". It is also not in dispute that you said the reason you don't use the N word is because you don't "like it".
I now eagerly await your lame-ass attempts to explain how you didn't say what you said.
Hint ... promiscuous use of the LOL smilie probably won't cut it (even though that's all you've got).

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:15 PM

63. You teach reading comprehension???

 

> is not in dispute that you used the phrase "House Negro". It is also not in dispute that you said the reason you don't use the N word is

I hope you understand that the "N word" is not "house negro". If you don't get that, well, I'm here to tell you that it isn't.

Perhaps not all of DU is on the same page, cultural-knowledge speaking. If so, there are various websites (like urban slang) where one can come up to speed.

> promiscuous use of the LOL smilie probably won't cut it

I only use it when I'm responding to an especially ridiculous post.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #63)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:33 PM

71. It should be easy to admire one so willing to go down in flames. But it's you, so never mind.

"I hope you understand that the "N word" is not "house negro". If you don't get that, well, I'm here to tell you that it isn't". That's what you said.

If you don't get the fact that "House Negro", if not as foul a slur as the "N" word, is still highly offensive, well, I'm here to tell you that it is.

I was initially willing to assume that you, in your ignorance, simply used an offensive phrase in an ill-advised cultural reference. However, your unwillingness to address your fuck-up makes it clear that it was, in fact, an intentional use of a phrase that has been long acknowledged as a racial slur.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:44 PM

73. LOL

 

> (masses of indignation & name-calling deleted)

Is that all the thanks I get for telling a guy who "teaches reading comprehension" that the "N word" is not "house negro"?

You'd think that people would be more grateful! Pearls before swine and all that....



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Response to bongbong (Reply #52)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:15 PM

64. You used the term. Own it.

 

And how exactly "should' a black person dress so that they don't look like a "house negro"?

Curious minds want to know.

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Response to sylvi (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:18 PM

66. Hmmmm......

 

> You used the term. Own it.

Is everybody that uses, for example, Fred Phelps' terms, supposed to "own them"? Interesting....




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Response to bongbong (Reply #66)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:35 PM

72. In the context you used it

 

you were applying it to the person in that photograph, not just quoting a movie. That was you doing that, not Quentin Tarantino (and BTW, he didn't invent the term). So tell us - how is that gentleman dressed like a "house negro" and what, to your mind, is the "correct" dress for an African American?

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Response to sylvi (Reply #72)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:48 PM

75. Hmmm....

 

> how is that gentleman dressed like a "house negro"

He resembled the people in the movie "Django Unchained" that were labeled that way.

> what, to your mind, is the "correct" dress for an African American?

Anything they want to wear.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:55 PM

83. Did you actually watch the movie?

To refresh your memory:

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:10 PM

90. Ignore it, AC. It will soon sleep with the Whovian.

Look at it's responses on this thread alone. A couple of Hmmmmms, a few LOLs, and no acknowledgement of the fact that it used a a racial slur.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:25 PM

95. from your mouth to the holy trinity's ears.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:08 PM

89. I haven't seen dancing that fast

 

I haven't seen dancing that fast since Riverdance. Perhaps next time you'll choose your words more carefully, even though the bigotry will probably still be there.

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Response to sylvi (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:24 PM

94. LOL

 

If only the Delicate Flowers were this upset when guns were used to slaughter Americans.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #94)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:07 PM

122. "I'm Michael Flateley, you Delicate Flowers!"

tap-tap-tappity-tap-tap-tappity-tappity-tappity-tap

Hey, look! Dead children!

tap-tap-tappity-tap-tap-tappity-tappity-tappity-tap

A Tolkien reference!

tap-tap-tappity-tap-tap-tappity-tappity-tappity-tap

Let me get out the bodhran - this is gonna take a while.

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Response to derby378 (Reply #122)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:46 PM

155. Is that gravedancing, Irish style?

Cuz bongbong is dead!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #155)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:13 AM

161. Oh, wow...

I wonder what the tipping point was for bb?

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Response to sylvi (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:26 PM

96. LOL #2

 

> I haven't seen dancing that fast since Riverdance.

Seeing as how I pointed out my reference in my initial post, there was no dancing involved. That Riverdance must have been in stop-motion. Hope you got a refund.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #96)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:37 PM

99. You keep missing the point.

No one cares where you got the reference from. People care why you applied the reference to this context (Black man in a long sleeve collared shirt, with slacks).

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #99)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:39 PM

101. LOL

 

> People care why you applied the reference to this context

I'm pretty sure that only Delicate Flowers are concerned, and that further they're only concerned because their Precious is being questioned, and in addition they think they finally have a "GOTCHA!" on one of their most hated posters.

In fact I'd bet Large on it.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #101)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:49 PM

105. I can't speak for others but

I do not much like the person in that photo upthread, because he was doing something that humiliates normal gun owners of every political stripe. (And he was a teabagger, IIRC, an equal opportunity political role)

You made a spectacularly derogatory inference to his manner of dress insulating him from arrest/police harassment, and I just don't think that follows. If it did, the same social evolutionary winnowing process that brings us things like evolving religions or manners of speech, would see most black people in the US dressing like him, if no other reason than to escape unequal police enforcement/ticketing/searches black people are subjected to. (Which of course, would not work, and your inference was similarly flawed)

http://www.aclu.org/racial-justice/driving-while-black-racial-profiling-our-nations-highways

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #105)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:07 PM

108. ????

 

> If it did, the same social evolutionary winnowing process that brings us things like evolving religions or manners of speech, would see most black people in the US dressing like him, if no other reason than to escape unequal police enforcement/ticketing/searches black people are subjected to.

That is not a logical conclusion at all, since people dress for many reasons, and you can't turn it into a Vulcan type question of pure reason (altho' your logic train is far from airtight)

Driving is an especially bad example, as most of the time a person can't see the totality of what a driver is wearing from outside the vehicle.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #108)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:16 PM

111. Yet, as I linked in that article

Some black people do attempt to drive 'milder' cars and different manners of dress to escape it. (To no statistically meaningful effect)

Such countermeasures don't appear to work, thus are not widespread. I contend that the manner of dress of the man in that photo was no insulation at all against police harassment.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #111)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:18 PM

112. Hmmm..

 

> I contend that the manner of dress of the man in that photo was no insulation at all against police harassment.

However, probably the fact he called the cops up and warned them that he was going to be there with a gun was.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #112)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:24 PM

114. How does that help your comment, lifted as it were, from Django applying to him?

Because I still don't see your connection.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #108)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:23 PM

113. really?

your quote

*That is not a logical conclusion at all, since people dress for many reasons,*

and yet your first thought when you see a black man in a suit is house negro?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #113)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:03 PM

121. Your fake concern

 

Is hilarious. Keep digging that hole!

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Response to bongbong (Reply #121)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:34 PM

124. ~*~*~*~* BongBong has LEFT the BUILDING!!!! ~*~*~*~*

DU wins!

Buh bye bong bong!

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #124)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:38 PM

128. Damn. From whence will we get our daily share of Delicate Flower and The Precious?

Truly a one trick pony.

If you notice though, there are about 10 other posters who now rely on that particular rhetorical device when they've run out of words...

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #128)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:48 AM

165. As you pointed out, there's a few new candidates out there...

...but maybe they won't talk so much smack now that their fearless leader has been shown the door.

A little music with the pizza, perhaps?

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Response to bongbong (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:32 PM

70. Amen, brother!

What the fuck can you say to these people? Nothing. Through the magic of Facebook, I've "reconnected" with former high-school classmates from Mobile, Alabama. So now I get an opportunity to look into the bizarre worldview of the paranoid, right-wing, Southern, Christian conservatives. There seems to be a sizable minority who share a violent, delusional, paranoid, fantasy that they constitute an underground movement of armed patriots -- prepared to rise up in violent revolution against the tyrannical dictator.

It's fucking ridiculous. Half of these idiots have college degrees. Most of them seemed to be normal citizens when we were growing up together long ago.

They "share" these ridiculous pictures on Facebook with each other that contain "clever" and "subtle" hints to the coming "revolution".

What the fuck is wrong with these nitwits?

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Response to cheapdate (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:58 PM

85. It's an emotional response

 

To white males not being in the majority anymore, and not being totally in control of everything (altho' the number is still 95+%)

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Response to bongbong (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:48 PM

76. Tarantino provided a recent example of the WORDS.

You applied it to this context.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:51 PM

77. I appreciate all the concern from the Delicate Flowers

 

Really, I do.

However, I don't see much concern from them after a slaughter perpetrated by a gun-totin' "Bad Guy".

Why is that?

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Response to bongbong (Reply #77)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:52 PM

79. Oh shit, that didn't go over like I hoped. QUICK LOOK OVER THERE n/t

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #79)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:18 PM

91. LOL

 

Funny how the Delicate Flowers get SO ENRAGED whenever a Liberal questions their Precious.

Same as always. Fear & emotion, screaming at the "evil libruls"

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Response to bongbong (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:35 PM

98. Of course, I said not a shred of that.

But don't let me get in the way of your deflection.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #98)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:40 PM

102. Give it up, AC. You've been LOL'd by ding dong.

Therefore, it has now declared itself the winner, and is free to continue to spew whatever racial invective it so chooses. Objections to such racist claptrap will be instantly rendered meaningless by the keenly incisive witty retort that is "LOL".

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #102)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:01 PM

119. So much concern

 

If only you Delicate Flowers were as concerned about the slaughter that you don't bat an eye over.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:26 PM

115. Barely concealed homophobic slur noted. nt

 

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Response to sylvi (Reply #115)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:59 PM

117. LOL

 

The concern never ends!

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Response to bongbong (Reply #117)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:35 PM

125. Racist AND homophobic

 

You're a regular Two-Gun Sam, aren't you?

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Response to bongbong (Reply #18)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:32 PM

23. no I'll bring them up with you

you used the term house negro here.

are you always this racist or did the gun debate release some latent racist tendencies ?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:37 PM

29. Read my post

 

> are you always this racist

I'm only referencing the movie. Sorry if you don't get that!

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Response to bongbong (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:41 PM

36. you reference a racist movie line

so that makes your racist posts less offensive...got it

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:45 PM

41. I appreciate your concern

 

> o that makes your racist posts less offensive...got it

Do you think that quoting Fred Phelps makes one a hate-filled bigot, too?

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Response to bongbong (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:52 PM

46. nice try at moving the goalposts

do you think calling people house negros is ok?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:53 PM

47. No goal-post moving from me

 

And I was just quoting a movie.

Your concern is touching.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:55 PM

51. I notice you havent apologized

for calling every black man in a suit a house negro

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:57 PM

54. Thanx again for your concern

 

> for calling every black man in a suit a house negro

I hope you let me know if I ever do that.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:52 PM

80. just a thought but

maybe your racist views would be more welcome on stormfront?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:20 PM

92. I don't think so

 

I'm disqualified for three reasons.

They hate non-racists, gun control people, and Liberals.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #47)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:58 PM

86. The content of the quote does not explain why you applied it to that man.

Please explain why his being dressed in a long sleeve collared shirt and grey slacks = 'house negro'.

Because simply saying 'I'm just quoting the movie' doesn't explain the association.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #86)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:00 PM

87. Answered in my post 75 n/t

 

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Response to bongbong (Reply #87)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:02 PM

88. Doesn't answer that question at all.

He is not dressed like the people from the movie.

I was hoping you'd come up with something else, but it seems you are equating a long sleeved collared shirt and slacks to = 'house negro'. I really hope that isn't what you are insinuating.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #87)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:54 PM

106. Gee look at all the house negroes...





(it's the congressional black caucus)

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Response to Bay Boy (Reply #106)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:09 PM

109. Really?

 

I didn't know there were that many blacks in the House! I'm glad that the repigs haven't gerrymandered their way to dictatorship everywhere (I'm assuming that none of the people pictured were elected in a repig-gerrymandered district).

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:45 PM

39. It seems to be a recurring theme, first Mighty Mopar, then Whovian....

Using the passion behind the violence and against the NRA as an opening to use racist terminology and lay other flamebait turds.

It is pathetic, if you ask me.

....

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:46 PM

42. HILARIOUS!

 

Oh the poor widdle NRA! So defenseless!

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Response to bongbong (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:38 PM

100. no...just trying to figure out why you use racist terminology here

don't you think using the term house negro to describe a black man in a suit is offensive?.

Guess you don't since you use it.

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #100)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:41 PM

104. Your concern is touching

 

You're so concerned, in fact, that you didn't even notice he wasn't wearing a suit.

Don't worry, I know what you Delicate Flowers are REALLY concerned about.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #104)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:58 PM

107. I'm not concerned..at all

I'm just trying to figure out how you feel comfortable here...with all the negros and such that post here.

That whole civil rights thing must really itch at you.
Does a black man in a suit with a gun scare you that much?

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Response to backwoodsbob (Reply #107)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:12 PM

110. LOL

 

> Does a black man in a suit with a gun scare you that much?

If I was scared I'd get a gun! I'm not. But Delicate Flowers are so terrified of everyday life that they need their Precious to summon up enough (fake) courage to be able to crawl out from under their beds.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #110)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:42 PM

130. OOPS! bongbong gone gone.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #130)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 10:51 AM

131. Awww! I didn't even get to say good-bye. That one was one of the more aggressively stupid ...

and obnoxious trolls we've seen for a while. I suppose that's why it was so easy to convince it to basically tombstone itself.

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Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #131)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:24 AM

132. Pulls thus crap all the time & usually gets away w/ it. In the gungeon.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #132)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:36 AM

134. The troll in question was one of only three user IDs to have been banished from the Gungeon

 

Well, one of four if you count the one that was pardoned and subsequently PPR'd.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:41 PM

116. You're a "racist asshole" (using language from some film where I'm sure someone was called that). nt

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #116)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:00 PM

118. OK

 

Hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #118)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:15 PM

143. Go away, go to your lowlife right wing site, get out!

You dog.

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:12 PM

142. People like you RUIN this site

Fuck you!

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Response to bongbong (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:22 PM

153. Disgusting racial slur.

Pointing to a movie does not change the fact that you just used that racial slur here on DU. Yes, YOU used that slur. Disgusting.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:32 PM

24. Interesting..

 

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:40 PM

35. You gotta be kidding. One out of hundreds of thousand right wing gun nuts.


You should be ashamed.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:43 PM

37. The only one who showed up there with an AR-15

And one whose skin tone was religiously excised from every DU mention of him, I noticed.

Anyways, the argument was "armed black people will scare conservatives". This one, at least, certainly doesn't.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #37)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:53 PM

48. Man Who Brought Assault Rifle To Obama Rally Was Part Of Radio Stunt


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html



I agree with OP is correct about the quickest way to get right wingers behind gun control. Where I live, there is little doubt in my mind that folks acquire "assault" weapons and carry primarily out of fear of minorities.

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Response to Recursion (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:43 AM

163. No

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:02 PM

6. i bet they already are

the picture of gun owners as white and rural is distorted, I suspect.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:13 PM

7. The NRA is setting up a foundation to fund minorities to buy guns

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:23 PM

11. Heh. That would cause some second thoughts. Or maybe an arms race.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:26 PM

14. Absolutely OK with me. There is safety in numbers.

 

The more the merrier.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:32 PM

25. They already are.

In Oakland, you can buy an AR-15 on the street for $200.

But they don't call their organizations "community defense groups".

They call them "Gangs".

They call AR-15s "Long Guns".

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:33 PM

27. Aside from further enriching the gun manufacturers,

adding even MORE military hardware into our neighborhoods,
and the potential for setting off the powder keg,
I like the idea.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:38 PM

30. May I ask, kentuck, what minority group do you belong to?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:20 PM

67. I belong to...

the hillbilly group. Of course, I'm beginning to think I am in the majority now?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:38 PM

31. That would help to sway public opinion pretty fast.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:39 PM

32. I'm white, but can I march along with them to make a point?!

Like someone posted here on DU, if you want whites in rural areas to go along with gun control, show them this picture:

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Response to PennsylvaniaMatt (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:47 AM

136. Show whites a picture of armed Panthers. This Cracker don't mind!

You are laboring under too many stereotypes and illusions.

Print 'em up! Distribute from Pittsburgh to Jax!

Times have changed. Such a refreshing OP for what it has revealed.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:39 PM

33. You mean like the Black Panthers used to do?

As a white man, I'm all for it.

Anyway, the white guys around here at the gun shop seem to love it when I bring my minority wife and daughter to the gun store. They barely even believed me when I told them my wife asked me to buy our daughter this cute little .22 rifle and take her shooting with me when she gets older: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=chipmunk+rifle+laminate&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=65854C50D5BDA6A8DB88E67040792F7EADA2C906&selectedIndex=41

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:45 PM

40. more likely they'd get assassinated.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:41 PM

103. I was thing the same thing


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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:46 PM

43. Talk about petrifying the NRA!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:51 PM

45. I recall the Tea Party loved Herman Cain

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:03 PM

57. One or two are fine, especially when they profess allegiance to the cause.

But a whole buch of those people? That's terrifying.....and how gun control passed in the 1960s.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 04:57 PM

55. Organize and call themselves "The Black Panther Party"

I'm fine with that

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:04 PM

58. yes

That would work.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:09 PM

59. What would really frost the Delicate Flowers

 

Would be to have a march of gun-toting minorities (or really anybody) chanting "Power To The People" (AKA OWS) type slogans.

They'd be put so far down a rathole, so quickly, that the MSM wouldn't report a peep...of course, since the MSM would've been ordered ahead of time to stay away, that's a moot point.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:09 PM

60. they loved Herman Cain for a month until they went to the next flavor of the month

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:11 PM

61. That's what Huey said... 2 shots in the dark now Huey's dead.

Quick way to get the gov to put you down.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:16 PM

65. Doesn't that assume that firearm owners are

1) Not black
2) as racist as you appear to be?

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Response to Riftaxe (Reply #65)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:23 PM

68. I think you are the one making assumptions?

Do you do that often?

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Response to Riftaxe (Reply #65)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:45 AM

164. No, given recent history 2A is a whites only right

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #164)

Thu Feb 7, 2013, 03:42 AM

169. Ignorance suits you

and you wear it well.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:30 PM

69. Yes they should.

I wonder how long it would take for you to admit you were wrong when no new law was passed?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:47 PM

74. NO. NO. NO. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

You cannot combat hatred and fear with guns and aggression. Or are you being sarcastic?

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Response to rivegauche (Reply #74)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:24 PM

149. Imagine if Muslim-Americans formed militias

and spoke about toppling a tyrannical American government the way Tea Partiers do.

I wouldn't recommend it, because someone would get killed. I think RWers would go ballistic (pun, yes) and hurt somebody.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:51 PM

78. I'm so glad you had the nerve to say it....

I've been thinking it for weeks.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:52 PM

81. Not my preferred caliber but I might go along.

It must be more to .223 than I'm grasping.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:53 PM

82. Been there done that with the Panthers.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:56 PM

84. The Republicans would immediately start scrambling to implement gun control

n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:23 PM

93. Good idea, but why just men? Also, why just the young?

Everyone has a stake in society, why limit it to just a few.

Yes, a little bit of sarcasm and a little bit of serious.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:27 PM

97. Everyone should take advantage of their 2A rights.

It would make it much harder for those that don't use the 2A to destroy it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:02 PM

120. Charles Manson... is that you? n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:12 PM

123. Did you ever hear of Rob Williams? If not, I think you will find his story interesting. ...

Robert F. Williams

Robert Franklin Williams (February 26, 1925 – October 15, 1996) was a civil rights leader, the president of the Monroe, North Carolina NAACP chapter in the 1950s and early 1960s, and author. At a time when racial tension was high and official abuses were rampant, Williams was a key figure in promoting armed black self-defense in the United States. He and his wife left the United States in 1961 to avoid prosecution for kidnapping. A self-professed Black Nationalist and supporter of liberation, he lived in both Cuba and communist China in exile.

Williams' book Negroes with Guns (1962), published while he was in exile in Cuba, details his experience with violent racism and his disagreement with the pacifist Civil Rights Movement philosophies. Among others the book influenced Huey Newton, who founded the Black Panthers.


***snip***

Black Armed Guard

The local NAACP was working to integrate the public swimming pools. They organized peaceful demonstrations, but some drew gunfire. No one was arrested or punished, although law enforcement officers were present.

Williams had already started the Black Armed Guard to defend the local black community from racist activity. At a time when gun ownership was fairly common in the South, KKK membership numbered some 15,000 locally. Black residents fortified their homes with sandbags and trained to use rifles in the event of night raids by the Klan. In Negroes with Guns, Williams writes:

"Racist consider themselves superior beings and are not willing to exchange their superior lives for our inferior ones. They are most vicious and violent when they can practice violence with impunity."
"It has always been an accepted right of Americans, as the history of our Western states proves, that where the law is unable, or unwilling, to enforce order, the citizens can, and must act in self-defense against lawless violence."

Followers attested to Williams' advocating the use of advanced powerful weaponry rather than more traditional firearms. Williams insisted his position was defensive, as opposed to a declaration of war. He called it "armed self-reliance" in the face of white terrorism. Threats against Williams' life and his family became more frequent. In 1959, Williams debated the merits of nonviolence with Martin Luther King Jr at the NAACP convention. The national NAACP office suspended his local chapter presidency for six months because of his outspoken disagreements with the national leadership. He said his wife would take over his position and he would continue his leadership through her.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Williams



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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:46 PM

126. by this way of thinking, WOMEN should have massively armed themselves and formed vigilante groups

Long ago. Because it is men --of all creeds and colors-- who harm us. They harm us because it is so easy to feel your power over someone smaller and physically weaker than you who doesnt fight back.. It is enticing because men want sex and many like the feeling of "taking it". The ecstatic feeling co-mingles with power. The problem is men who go past consent in this regard.

Men who have not learned to manage their aggressions are dangerous and it's women who are likely to get hurt. I've always thought that if women were more dedicated to defending themselves by using "fire to fight fire", male violence against women would have stopped a long time ago. It's just always been waaaay too politically incorrect to say that out loud.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #126)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:41 PM

129. Indeed, my friend!

Sad and true.

I just read about a husband in Florida who shot and killed his two children in front of their mom.

How messed up is that?



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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #129)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:28 PM

147. yeah, I read about that too...

sickening. Really really sickening. The sense of entitlement it takes to do something like that.....I mean, the utter self-absorption....

What can society do about male aggression and self-focus? I guess a less militaristic focus would be one factor......


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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #126)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:20 PM

141. I love this type of reasoning. Children with automatic weapons can prevent spanking and punishments

and get more pizzas too, and ice cream whenever they want

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #141)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:39 PM

144. So, you're equating rape, sexual crimes, torture and femicide with spankings and pizza?

?

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #144)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:46 PM

145. No.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #145)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:03 PM

146. really? So what was your point then, because you DID lump real violence that is specific to women

in the same category as spoiled children. You made a joke of an issue that every woman fears, just by being in the world alongside men.

You make light of something very very serious. HOW INCREDIBLY INSULTING and OFFENSIVE.

Just because you had to snark; to make a cutting sarcasm, just to show us how clever and superior you are.

And you needed to add a ROFL smiley too, just to make sure we all GET how trivial women's vulnerability to violence is.

Global violence aganst women is at an all-time high. I was making a figurative point to highlight the OP, and without any consideration for context or implication, YOU felt it necessary to dismiss the point of the reality that women must live with. I'll bet if there was an epidemic of white violence against Latinos or Native Americans on the scale that women face, you wouldnt find anything funny about it. You wouldnt be equating them to spoiled children.............

I can't even put into words how angry I am. Absolutely disgusted with your snot nosed smart ass attitude.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #146)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:47 AM

159. Next time I won't agree with you, O.K.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #159)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:26 AM

168. last minute one-liner denying the fact of one's own words=FAIL

As impressive as, "it was only a joke I didn't mean it can't you take a joke"

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #145)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:03 PM

151. WHY haven't you made the same shitty mockery of the post upthread proposing Muslim Americans should

form militias?

Why save it only for WOMEN? It's okay for Muslim Americans, but women should be laughed at and trivialized for the SAME IDEA?

Please do explain why you didn't poke your nose into THAT post to make a nasty little snark letting them know how childlike, ridiculous and petulant they are.

Or is it that you respect Muslim Americans in a way that you can't conceive of with regard to women?

Or maybe it's that Muslim Americans include MEN, who are to be taken seriously...plus, are much more likely than women to punch you in the snout for being a jerkoff.

A lot easier to harrass women.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #151)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 08:47 AM

160. Children should form militias too, I guess.

How's your sacrasm meter now?

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #160)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:21 AM

167. self referential tautology=FAIL.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:34 AM

133. Interesting post, kentuk. So very interesting...

Maybe now when someone says gun-control has its roots in racism, folks will study the assertion more closely.

Fannie Lou Hamer
Rosa Parks
Deacons of Defense
Black Panthers
Malcolm X
LBJ

Now, try to reconcile that.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #133)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:38 AM

135. Otis McDonald

 

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #135)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 11:58 AM

137. Oh! this OP was most revelatory! (But maybe not in the way intended.)

Zora Neale Hurston

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:12 PM

139. Black people have done that, they were called the Black Panthers. n/t

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 12:18 PM

140. Yeah, starting a race war is good for the ammo industry! :sarcasm:

RU frickkin' kidding?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 06:39 PM

150. yes!

It was May 2, 1967, and the Black Panthers’ invasion of the California statehouse launched the modern gun-rights movement.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/

One Panther bragged that, if they wanted, they could have bought an M48 tank and driven it right up the freeway.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:37 PM

154. Yes indeed

This is exactly what we need

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 10:20 AM

162. We would probably send the military after them but I get the point!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:11 AM

166. I agree with that train of thought......

I know of many black folk with guns, maybe not assault weapons. But if that were to become a public trend in large numbers, no doubt it would be the catalyst for a 2nd civil war.

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