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Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:29 PM

As Washington state eyes gender-neutral language, dairymen, freshmen, penmanship face chopping block

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) In Washington state, dairymen, freshmen and even penmanship could soon be things of the past.

Over the past six years, state officials have engaged in the onerous task of changing the language used in the state's copious laws, including thousands of words and phrases, many written more than a century ago when the idea of women working on police forces or on fishing boats wasn't a consideration.

That process is slated to draw to a close this year. So while the state has already welcomed "firefighters," ''clergy" and "police officers" into its lexicon, "ombuds" (in place of ombudsman) and "security guards" (previously "watchmen,") appear to be next, along with "dairy farmers," ''first-year students" and "handwriting."

"Some people would say 'oh, it's not a big thing, do you really have to go through the process of changing the language,'" said Seattle Councilmember Sally Clark who was one of the catalysts for the change. "But language matters. It's how we signal a level of respect for each other."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/wash-state-considers-gender-neutral-language-bill

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Reply As Washington state eyes gender-neutral language, dairymen, freshmen, penmanship face chopping block (Original post)
The Straight Story Feb 2013 OP
annabanana Feb 2013 #1
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #2
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #7
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #9
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #3
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #4
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #11
enlightenment Feb 2013 #5
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #8
dballance Feb 2013 #6
MadHound Feb 2013 #10

Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:34 PM

1. penmaidship?

too bad "maid" has virginal connotation..Could have been useful

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:37 PM

2. Stop acting like complete morons, people. "Penmanship" is not sexist, and it never has been.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:43 PM

7. Penpersonship?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:54 PM

9. Yeah. I wish them luck with that one.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:37 PM

3. Oh the horror!

Things won't be the way they were! This is an outrage!

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:39 PM

4. How stupid.

Nothing better to do with their time, I guess.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 05:45 PM

11. +1. Certain liberals are all about symbolism rather than materialism.

 

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:40 PM

5. Is "human" sexist?

"Ombuds" sounds like something a "first-year student" would say at a frat party.

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Response to enlightenment (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:44 PM

8. Huperson?

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:43 PM

6. At the Electric Utility for which I Used to Work...

The women in the traditional jobs labeled line man and meter man called themselves by the traditional names. I don't know of any efforts on the women's part to get the job titles changed to gender neutral job titles. Those jobs really aren't that far off of the traditional titles "fireman" and "policeman." Not to mention that can have similarly difficult physical conditions in which to work. So I just kind of found it interesting that the job titles didn't change as women started to do them right along side the men.

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Response to The Straight Story (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:57 PM

10. You know, there are some language changes that need to be made,

 

But the fact of the matter is when you start getting into words like penmanship, you're taking matters way to far.

What about the word women, are we going to change that as well?

Idiocy.

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