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Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:41 PM

Plans for political change are irrelevant and futile

unless and until we get the corporate money and influence out of our elections and our government.

The only possible chance of a change of direction, is if the people rally and stand up together to demand corporate money out of the system.

Until that happens, you can rhapsodize all you want about what you hope the next Democrat will do. It isn't going to happen.

We have had a Democrat in office for four years, and our direction has not changed. It is not going to change, because the system is captured by corporate money. They select our candidates, and the agenda continues...

Reform of the system to remove corporate influence between now and the next elections is the only issue that matters right now. It should be our constant and unrelenting focus. In its absence, we will continue to get more theater, more propaganda, more lip service, and more of the same corporate poison:


Corporate and bank-cozy appointments, over and over again
Bailouts and settlements for corrupt banks (with personal pressure from Obama to attorneys general to approve them),
Refusal to prosecute even huge, egregious examples of bank fraud (i.e, HSBC)
NDAA to allow indefinite detention,
"Kill lists" and claiming of the right to assassinate even American citizens without trial
Maintaining Guantanamo Bay and the Patriot Act,
Expansion of wars into several new countries
A renewed public support for the concept of preemptive war
Drone campaigns in multiple countries with whom we are not at war
Proliferation of military drones in our skies
Federal targeting of Occupy for surveillance and militarized response to peaceful protesters
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for warrantless surveillance
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for strip searches for any arrestee
Internet-censoring and privacy-violating measures like ACTA and the new CISPA-like executive order
Support for corporate groping and naked scanning of Americans seeking to travel
A new, massive spy center for warrantless access to Americans' phone calls, emails, and internet use
Support of legislation to legalize such spying
Militarized police departments, through federal grants
Marijuana users and medical marijuana clinics under assault,
Skyrocketing of the budget for prisons.
Supporting a bipartisan vote in Congress to gut more financial regulations.
Passionate speeches and press conferences promoting austerity for Americans, while the
Bush tax cuts were extended for billionaires.
Support for the payroll tax holiday, tying SS to the general fund
Support for the vicious chained CPI cut in Social Security and benefits for the disabled
Social security, Medicare, and Medicaid offered up as bargaining chips in budget negotiations, with no mention of cutting corporate welfare or the military budget
Multiple new free trade agreements, including The Trans-Pacific, otherwise known as "NAFTA on steroids."
Growth of the power of lobbyists to prevent government regulation of corporations.
Support of drilling, pipelines, and selling off portions of the Gulf of Mexico
Corporate education policy including high stakes corporate testing and closures of public schools



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woo me with science Feb 2013 OP
socialist_n_TN Feb 2013 #1
ProSense Feb 2013 #2
woo me with science Feb 2013 #3
ProSense Feb 2013 #4

Response to woo me with science (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:44 PM

1. This has been the frame since Marx and Engels wrote.....

the definitive account of capitalism. It's between reform and revolution. And reform doesn't work because CAPITALISM WILL NOT STAY REFORMED!

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Response to woo me with science (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:46 PM

2. I'm down

"The only possible chance of a change of direction, is if the people rally and stand up together to demand corporate money out of the system."

Are you starting the revolution?

"Until that happens, you can rhapsodize all you want about what you hope the next Democrat will do. It isn't going to happen."

No Hillary 2016? Are you hoping for a Republican?

"We have had a Democrat in office for four years."

Obama won, I do believe that means he's in office for another four years.



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Response to ProSense (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:48 PM

3. As always, Prosense,

your posts are a good reminder of the utter contempt Americans face from our government.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:56 PM

4. Wait,

"your posts are a good reminder of the utter contempt Americans face from our government. "

...I'm the "government"?






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