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Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:06 AM

ABC is spending more time on a dead sniper than a live kidnapped child

This insane how they are worshipping this guy.

Guns, guns, guns.

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Reply ABC is spending more time on a dead sniper than a live kidnapped child (Original post)
liberal N proud Feb 2013 OP
hedgehog Feb 2013 #1
Iggo Feb 2013 #32
cali Feb 2013 #2
dlwickham Feb 2013 #58
Whovian Feb 2013 #3
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #4
Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #27
dballance Feb 2013 #55
Romulus Quirinus Feb 2013 #62
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #5
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #10
cali Feb 2013 #13
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #16
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #26
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #17
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #19
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #20
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #22
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #23
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #30
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #45
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #61
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #25
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #33
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #34
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #36
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #41
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #44
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #51
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #56
Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2013 #63
FarPoint Feb 2013 #52
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #57
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #43
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #39
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #59
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #48
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #60
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #14
Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #24
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #42
bowens43 Feb 2013 #49
Kalidurga Feb 2013 #54
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #6
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #7
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #9
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #12
cali Feb 2013 #15
liberal N proud Feb 2013 #18
Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #29
WinniSkipper Feb 2013 #37
Glassunion Feb 2013 #8
jsr Feb 2013 #11
HappyMe Feb 2013 #21
cantbeserious Feb 2013 #28
sasha031 Feb 2013 #31
ecstatic Feb 2013 #35
undeterred Feb 2013 #38
farminator3000 Feb 2013 #40
Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #46
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #47
pansypoo53219 Feb 2013 #50
Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #53

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:16 AM

1. I haven't seen the coverage - but if a fully armed A+#1 sniper can't defend himself

against a gun man,who can? That may be the push behind the coverage.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:41 PM

32. How many "goodguyswithguns" were at the scene?

Couldn't they have saved our hero?

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:23 AM

2. OK. One more time. The Authorities are keeping as quiet as they can

about the child hostage situation in Alabama for obvious reasons. They simply are not releasing much information to the media because they want to successfully rescue the child. Fortunately, the MSM seems to be fairly respectful of this. The perp has a television. Setting him off or pumping him up does not bode well for the child hostage.

Take a big step back.

Oh, and he wasn't simply some dead sniper. He was also a best selling author. Covering his murder which is about so much more than than just his death. It is a legitimate story and I have not seen ANYTHING from the MSM that could accurately be referred to as "worshipping".

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Response to cali (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:32 PM

58. +1

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:25 AM

3. The irony is deafening.

 

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:26 AM

4. Let's let the Alabama thing play out quietly, ok?

Let the networks go wall-to-wall with this sniper guy - we want that little boy out safely, no hype.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:29 PM

27. I'm with you on this one, Cows. nt

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:12 PM

55. Absolutely Agree.

No need to feed the kidnapper with anything on the TV that he might take as encouragement. Also, if I were the authorities I wouldn't be telling the media anything either. Because there would be a stampede as all of them tried to get in front of their cameras to be the first to break the latest news, the latest update and they would likely give away information the kidnapper doesn't need to know. Just like good 'ole Geraldo giving away the position and movements of our troops on live TV - dumbass.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:38 PM

62. Yeah, no copy cats would be a good thing here, too. nt

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 08:40 AM

5. Chris Kyle is very well known

He wrote a book, has been on TV, etc. And, the irony of one of the best snipers who ever lived being murdered at a gun range, is a "made for news" moment.

Plus, the poor boy being held has been -- and continues to be -- all over the news.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:51 AM

10. Only in the gun culture

This was the first I heard of him.

He died at the hand of that which he lived glorifying.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:54 AM

13. or by anyone at all who pays attention to the NYT best seller list.

Just because YOU haven't heard of him, doesn't mean... anything at all. I certainly had and I hardly follow the military and I don't own a gun.

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:57 AM

16. So all these names are famous? What's this guy's book: "I shot him, and then I shot HIM! THEN

I shot HIM!" Yeah, I'll BET he sold a pot load of his books to Americans.

http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/overview.html

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:26 PM

26. Right up top with Beck, Coulter and O' Lielly.

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:57 AM

17. Oh I am sorry that I get turned off by guns and ignore those who glorify them

And I don't memorize the NYT Best Sellers list from week to week.

He had 15 minutes and then died at the hand of the thing he glorified.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:01 AM

19. Would you feel better

 

if he was killed in action? Should all soldiers die "at the hand of the thing he glorified"? Or did he get what was coming becasue he wrote a book?

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:01 AM

20. It's not leading National News!

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:24 AM

22. Obviously, it is. nt

 

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:02 PM

23. Gun nuts would see it that way I guess

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:40 PM

30. Yes, all the major news networks

 

are run by the NRA. And all local newspapers. We are doomed.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:57 PM

45. He is the most decorated sniper in US military history

And was a highly-regarded service member.

So, yes, it is leading national news. Regardless of how you have repeatedly stated several times in this thread that members of our Armed Forces glorify guns.

Many members of my family have served honorably, and one who is very close to me is a disabled combat veteran. Regardless of how I feel about war, I do NOT think military members are "glorifying guns," or death.

Just wow.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #45)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:38 PM

61. A trained killer promoting guns gets killed by a gun

Not really news!

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:24 PM

25. No, he got what he had coming because he was a gubmint hating asshole.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #25)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:43 PM

33. Interesting

 

I haven't read his book - so I was not aware of his inability to spell government.

Thanks for pointing out the correct spelling.

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:45 PM

34. You must not be from around these parts if you don't know the correct spelling.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #34)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:49 PM

36. Maybe you can help me

 

what part of his book or whatever he has done makes him deserve what happened to him as you have claimed?

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #36)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:53 PM

41. "got what he had coming" and deserved are different in my book.

But you bore me so have a good day.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #41)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:56 PM

44. What's the difference?

 

I usually bore people who can't answer a question

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #44)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:32 PM

51. I said good day, Sir!

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #51)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:14 PM

56. Yes you did.

 

And I asked what's the difference? And the reason I ask is not because I am a gun nut - it is because statements like this make all Democrats look foolish.



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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #56)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:39 PM

63. I said good day, Sir!

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Response to WinniSkipper (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:44 PM

52. Are you having a bad day?

You sound highly irritable at the moment. Reading way too much into comments here. Do you need a hug?

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Response to FarPoint (Reply #52)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:29 PM

57. No hug need - but thanks for the offer.

 

I mean that.

As I stated somewhere else - statements like this make all Dems look foolish.

I think most people on this board - pro RKBA and pro-control alike - basically agree on large issues. Some sort of magazine restriction, background checks on all sales. Those are two issues that have a decent chance of becoming law. Or at least are two points of common ground that the sides can agree on and start a meaningful discussion.

As for the weapons part of the discussion - it basically comes down to - do you (the royal 'you') approve of a semi-automatic ban? The cosmetics part is a rat hole of distraction, wasted time and wasted effort. That's the component the two sides are far apart on, and will never agree on.

There will never be a ban on semi automatic rifles. It's just a reality.

And then there is the political considerations of this issue. Obama won by 6-ish percent. The pro-control people scream about all the nuts. They shouldn't be worried about the nuts - they should be worried about more than 3% of the people who voted Dem changing their vote because of the semi-auto issue. Because those people most likely agree with the magazine size, and the background checks. It is VERY conceivable that the semi-auto issue could turn this country Red for at least a generation.

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:54 PM

43. Yup -- and the media blitz

He was all over the place, and was on that "Stars & Stripes" show with celebrities this past summer. He was partnered with Dean Cain.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:50 PM

39. Not true -- he was on a reality show

Which had good ratings and was widely written about (including on here), and a best-selling book, including a huge media tour.

"He died at the hand of that which he lived glorifying."

Then that goes for every single member of the Armed Services, huh? Every. Single. One. I reject that.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #39)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:36 PM

59. Gun culture and reality TV, now there is a good combination - NOT!

I ignore reality TV too.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:04 PM

48. And the SEAL community, and the veteran community

And had a reality show...and was succesful. The fact you did not know who he was...

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:37 PM

60. I don't do guns, I am not a veteran and don't watch reality TV

Reality TV does not make one a star!

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:55 AM

14. I'm pretty well-versed on popular culture; this guy was NOT "well-known," let alone "very."

Many people have written books and/or been on TV. Countess LuAnn, anyone?

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:20 PM

24. Chris Kyle's book is well know, not his name

I heard the story on the radio and didn't make any connection until the book title was mentioned.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:53 PM

42. He was on a popular reality show with celebrities as well

That was talked about all over the place, including here. He had a best-selling book, and was all over TV and other media. He was a highly-decorated service member, and was nice looking. He got a lot of press.

And, as others have stated, you don't report on a hostage situation, especially with a minor involved. The media are actually doing the right thing right now.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:07 PM

49. Best sniper? How about most prolific murderer?

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #49)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:52 PM

54. How would you feel about a sniper that say...

ended up killing the guy who has a 4 year old hostage? Not all sniping is murder.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:03 AM

6. A hostage situation means the authorities should be careful with media coverage for the sake of

the hostage or hostages, in this case the child who you acknowledge is alive and that alone should show you why that is, for the sake of his life.
Upon what basis do you propose that more coverage serves the hostage?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:04 AM

7. correct

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:06 AM

9. Do you think the OP will answer my question?

I don't.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:54 AM

12. My point is about glorification of more gun culture and that culture losing a shooter.

It was the lead story and spent nearly 5 minutes getting commentary from a dozen talking heads and other insignificant idiots.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:55 AM

15. So you think the media should be leading with the child hostage crisis and making a horrendous

situation worse?

Great.

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Response to cali (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:58 AM

18. I don't think the death of a glorified gunman should be a lead story.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:35 PM

29. Take it up with MSM. It usually misses no chance potraying negative images of guns.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:50 PM

37. They just hired a new head of CNN

 

You should have applied

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 10:53 AM

11. No kidding.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 11:02 AM

21. I have seen both stories in newscasts.

Wall to wall coverage of the hostage situation may make the situation worse. They don't want anything to set this guy off.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:33 PM

28. Hero Worshiping A Gun Slinger - Promoting The Myth Of The Old West - One Man Against All Others

eom

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:40 PM

31. Yes all the media is doing this

tragedies like this not news worthy

East Tennessee man kills wife, 2 children, self

http://www.tennessean.com/viewart/20130202/NEWS21/130202012/East-Tennessee-man-kills-wife-2-children-self

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:49 PM

35. I read the cliff notes

Had no idea who this guy was, but it's odd that he thought it was a good idea to take veterans with PTSD to the shooting range. I hope some gun advocates get it now. Some people shouldn't have guns, even if the only way to achieve that is a total ban.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:50 PM

38. I don't think they have much to say about the Alabama guy

and he probably has a tv.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:51 PM

40. Man kills two sons in Florida -and- Reid supports expanding background checks

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/02/03/Man-kills-two-sons-in-Florida/UPI-22501359914066/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/02/03/reid-supports-expanding-background-checks-unsure-about-assault-weapons-ban/

i agree about too much coverage on the guy. not sure if you meant more on the kid- there will be PLENTY when its (hopefully happily) over!

those ^^^ 2 are more at least as important as the sniper guy.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:58 PM

46. The reason for NOT covering the Alabama situations is due to a child's life is involved.

The last thing one wants to do is give these guys is a voice. Those that do such a thing do so to get a voice to whatever insane ideas they have.

There is a old policy that I am happy to see coming back. To set back and wait in these type of situations. That way they don't give the "bad guys" their bully pulpit. Not giving the attention he though he would get and add the skills of the negotiators, that could mean the difference in the rescue of a live child or funeral coverage.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:58 PM

47. There is a reason for lack of TV coverage

TV needs images. They have not cut power to the bunker due to the kid. Images are insta intel.

I have been following the far more extensive coverage in print. And you can bet the cops asked fr this.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:23 PM

50. i believe the media is being low key on law enforcement recommendation.

like when that foreign correspondent was kidnapped. just wait for a resolution for the jazz hands.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:46 PM

53. Whatever sells the most toothpaste and beer..it's showbiz.

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