Sylvester Stallone in favor of new national gun control legislation

[graham4anything]

note-this was found in the gun section of this board.
I no longer frequent that section as I am (obviously)100% anti-NRA, and anti-gun and don't want to inflate the post totals in that section.
Most people here block that section out so might have missed this, but this is important as a general discussion on a major in the news topic, so will post it in General.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/2/rambos-sylvester-stallone-supports-gun-control/

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Sylvester Stallone says that despite his “Rambo” image and new shoot-em-up film “Bullet to the Head,” he’s in favor of new national gun control legislation.

Stallone supported the 1994 “Brady bill” that included a now-expired ban on assault weapons, and hopes that ban can be reinstated.

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“I know people get (upset) and go, ‘They’re going to take away the assault weapon.’ Who … needs an assault weapon? Like really, unless you’re carrying out an assault. … You can’t hunt with it. … Who’s going to attack your house, a (expletive) army?”

“It’s unbelievably horrible, what’s happened. I think the biggest problem, seriously, is not so much guns. It’s that every one of these people that have done these things in the past 30 years are friggin’ crazy. Really crazy! And that’s where we’ve dropped the ball: mental health,” he said. “That to me is our biggest problem in the future, is insanity coupled with isolation.”

[MrSlayer]

1. Just in time for his new movie release.

Get some extra press. An age old device to generate publicity.

He's so ripped it's comical looking.

[graham4anything]

3. Stallone is on the NRA's enemy list, so this is nothing new

and besides, movies don't kill
but real guns and bullets do.

because peopel see these films worldwide
only in the US do people kill 34 people each day from guns of all type and bullets

other people see movies as entertainment and go back to real life

BTW, Ken Kersey was a character everyone loved
Bernie Goetz was a conspiracy theorist who attempted to murder innocent people because they looked different to him, same as Zimmerman in Florida.
People worldwide know Kersey was fiction and left the theatre being entertained if they enjoyed the film

Only in America do you have the Bernie Goetz's and Zimmerman's that are judge/jury/executioner.

If only Mr. Martin was the one with a gun, as his life was in mortal danger from the Zimmeran assassin. That was real life.
Had Zimmerman been packing a ping pong ball, Mr. Martin would be alive and well, and quite possibly in the future, have been the one who cured cancer. We shall never know.

BTW, are you syaing you never saw a Stallone, Wllis, Van Damme, Seagal, Norris, movie in your life?
Did you see the Expendables. It was a hoot.

Of course, it took a JD book to kill John Lennon, right?
Had the same asssassin been reading the same book, sans (that means without) a gun and a bullet John Lennon man of peace would still be here.
Having the book plus a gun and bullet, means he is not.

Stallone is on the NRA enemies list. So this is nothing new.

[MrSlayer]

5. Whatever. It's a good publicity tool.

You sure are reading an awful lot into my comment.

In fact you sound every bit as frothing and fervent as the gun nuts themselves.

He may be sincere, he may not be. The fact is that he has a movie coming out and guns are controversial so reiterating his stance is capturing some attention.

[graham4anything]

6. NRA people will boycott the movie, therefore Stallone is losing money saying his view.

in the logic you are using
it is not a good idea for Stallone to speak out

you seem to think of it as a publicity tool

in actuality, it will deflate the box office as the gunnies won't go and see it in protest

therefore Stallone remaining silent would have been best

So that in itself shows it is not a publicity stunt

and unless you think Stallone is a fool, of course he knows it.

so it is 180degrees opposite what you are saying.

because he is losing paying customers, not gaining them.

checkmate.

[MrSlayer]

7. No such thing as bad publicity.

Checkmate my ass. He's drumming up publicity, period. As many gun nuts as he drives away that's how many anti-gun nuts he'll draw in. He breaks even there. By merely getting his name in the headlines and mentioning his new movie, he gets people that might not have known about the movie that don't care one way or the other about guns. It's a net win.

I bet you thought you were debess, minus now.

[graham4anything]

8. Stallone is not the person you think he is.There is a difference between acting and real life.

If you don't know, Stallone is a writer.

I am looking forward for Robert Deniro and Stallone next move
Raging Bull vs. Rocky
two older fighters in a grudge match.

(Robert DeNiro won an oscar for playing Jake LaMatta in the Raging Bull).

But then if not for the NRA, Charleton Heston would have been forgotten 20 years earlier.
BTW, loved Charlie in Bowling for Columbine. Michael Moore with words defeated Charlie and his guns.

[MrSlayer]

9. I know him personally.

Having been in two movies with him and an invited guest to the inside shoots on a few others. It's not like we're friends but I have conversed with him on several occasions and had lunch with him, Burt Young and Tommy Morrison on the set of Rocky 5.

I never said he was an idiot, insincere or anything of the sort but I know show business well enough to know a publicity ploy when I see one.

That's all I'm saying.

[graham4anything]

10. And if you know him, you know he is a long time supporter of gun control

and well, whatever happened to Dixie Chicks.

Liberals won't go out of their way to see a Stallone movie who wouldn't have seen it before.

However, the rightwing would instantly declare a Rush Limbaugh NRA led boycott

but his films mostly now are for the foreign market anyhow
And they don't have our gun problem elsewhere.

whereas Quentin Tarentino makes hundreds of millions off of gun movies, and refuses to get involved in the gun issue, the movies he "steals" from are not satires/irony or farce.
And the countries those movies originate in, people go to the movies, and see the movies
and then live a regular non-gun life.

As Dustin hoffman said the other day, guns are like the casting couch in Hollywood.
You gotta play the game to stay in the game.

As Kris Kristofferson sang "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose".
And one can be free and not have movies like that.
It is called the unemployment line.
If Leonardo DiCaprio (or maybe if you know him you call him Leo, I don't know him so I don't)
can't stop smoking and shooting guns, no one can.

David Lynch, however, proved, in Straight Story, that he could indeed make his best film,
and not have guns a central part of it.
I don't hear anyone saying one should or should not ban lawnmowers.
Because if everyone were packing lawnmowers, the other person would have ample opportunity to get out of the way of fire.

imho

and yeah, everyone does have an angle as Bing Crosby's character said in White Christmas
however, if Stallone has an angle, well, so does everyone else.Therefore what is the only relevant thing is his message about guns.

as if Pierre LaToupe don't have an angle.
(as Tommy Flannagan said "yeah, that's the ticket&quot .

"money makes the world go round the world go round the world go round
money makes the world go round&quot c) Kander & Ebb.
Just remember, the NRA is the 1%.
They have 100s of millions of tax free dollars spent solely to bring in more money from people buying more and more guns and bullets, that have no reason for being except to kill someone or something.(because one doesn't actually need bullets for sport).

imho of course.

[MrSlayer]

11. Jesus Fuck man.

I get it.

While I doubt Sly is as fanatical about the subject as you are, I'm certain he cares waaaaaay more than I do.

I loved Django by the way. Just saw it tonight, took advantage of the Super Bowl. Had the theater all to ourselves.

My best to you.

[ReRe]

2. Did he make that NRA Enemies List?

.... if not, update your lists folks! Thanks for posting this. You're right, I would never have known, as I don't frequent the gun lobby forum.

[graham4anything]

4. Yes, he has been on the NRA's enemy list for years.

someone printed the whole LONG list yesterday.
That list should be pinned somewhere.