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Wayne LaPierre's mental illness (#NervousDisorder ) granted him a draft deferment. (Original Post) sasha031 Feb 2013 OP
NO! Obviously, the US government already decided once jazzimov Feb 2013 #1
wow, wonder why this hasn't been brought up JI7 Feb 2013 #2
Of course he did ... DakotaLady Feb 2013 #3
Isn't Phil Hendrie a liberal? n/t sweetloukillbot Feb 2013 #4
He was up to 9/11 and then somewhat disassembled trying to support the Iraq War. grantcart Feb 2013 #14
I was shocked by Phil Hendrie's addition to the list, too. lexw Feb 2013 #27
I think his nervous disorder miraculously cleared up when the draft ended. nt pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #5
Message auto-removed larryz Feb 2013 #6
I'll K&R this... nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #7
Yeah, I bet lots of people were nervous about going to war. nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #8
And this from the man who blamed mental health cases... freshwest Feb 2013 #9
Yes, he loves to rant about all the lunatics that are running free sasha031 Feb 2013 #10
Or a Freudian slip, huh? Seems like they make those a lot. freshwest Feb 2013 #11
I missed that, been over on twitter stirring #hit sasha031 Feb 2013 #13
I think it is a shame whoever wrote that decided to lump Chris Matthews in with the right wing nuts davidpdx Feb 2013 #12
Media Whores was a site that operated in the Bush yrs sasha031 Feb 2013 #16
the list seems most likely from the late 90s/early 2000s JI7 Feb 2013 #17
I had a pilonidal cyst. snip snip stitch stich solved. about as traumatic as a tonsilectomy. grantcart Feb 2013 #15
Then he is the LAST person who should be promoting arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #18
Take his guns, he's "mentally ill" and he's told us clearly they should be registered Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #19
Bloody unbelievable! Ian Iam Feb 2013 #20
Wayne LP is really a piece of work ... BlueMTexpat Feb 2013 #21
Actually, Reagan kinda sorta served. He was a Culver City Commando who made training films... Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #22
Too true! BlueMTexpat Feb 2013 #24
Wow. Just, wow!! He used a medically diagnosed mental disorder to decieve our nation. Barf!!! The Wielding Truth Feb 2013 #23
Anyone who's paranoid enough to want a gun to protect themselves from the US government ... Kablooie Feb 2013 #25
Shitting in your pants B Calm Feb 2013 #26
From a legal perspective, no only if he meets the criteria for a "prohibited person". Denninmi Feb 2013 #28
Chickenhawk Republicans are a veritable Plague upon the nation Berlum Feb 2013 #29
Does anyone have a good source for this? Jim Lane Feb 2013 #30

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
1. NO! Obviously, the US government already decided once
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:53 AM
Feb 2013

that he shouldn't be carrying a gun. And if anyone thinks he's better now, just listen to any of his speeches.

DakotaLady

(246 posts)
3. Of course he did ...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 01:57 AM
Feb 2013

why should any of us being surprised.

That list is very telling.

Thank you for posting this thread --- it is a must read IMO.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
14. He was up to 9/11 and then somewhat disassembled trying to support the Iraq War.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:19 AM
Feb 2013

Lots of his media friends warned him but he just became obsessed about it.

I would have to say that Hendrie always gave credit to vets and loved lambasting paper tigers like the rest of the guys on the list.

lexw

(804 posts)
27. I was shocked by Phil Hendrie's addition to the list, too.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:41 AM
Feb 2013

Even if he changed his stance a bit, putting him on a list of folks like that seems a tad extreme.
But, I (like many I'm sure) haven't listened to him in some time.
Love his work, though!

Response to sasha031 (Original post)

nobodyspecial

(2,286 posts)
8. Yeah, I bet lots of people were nervous about going to war.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:18 AM
Feb 2013

They keep arguing that it's not the guns but people with mental illness. So why doesn't someone confront him with his OWN mental illness. And to me, someone with a nervous disorder (translation: itchy trigger finger) shouldn't be anywhere near a gun.

sasha031

(6,700 posts)
10. Yes, he loves to rant about all the lunatics that are running free
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:43 AM
Feb 2013

I more than suspected it being a projection
This is what RWNJ's always do.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Or a Freudian slip, huh? Seems like they make those a lot.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 02:47 AM
Feb 2013
Ah, and MIRT took care of the troll.

He was really stung by your OP!






davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
12. I think it is a shame whoever wrote that decided to lump Chris Matthews in with the right wing nuts
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:00 AM
Feb 2013

He may not be the most liberal of commentators at there, but he sure isn't anything like the list of people he's included in.

sasha031

(6,700 posts)
16. Media Whores was a site that operated in the Bush yrs
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:20 AM
Feb 2013

They were quite good, at the time Chris Matthews was not a good friend to Progressives.
MSNBC was slanted right like the rest of the media, I think Keith Olbermann had a huge hand in changing things.

The network learned quickly there was a market for liberals, and thing started to change. It was pretty awful during Bush yrs.
I think once Kieth opened it up, it gave Chris freedom to become a way better pundit.

As far as Meida Whores, I think allot of the people probably went to work for Media Matters.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
19. Take his guns, he's "mentally ill" and he's told us clearly they should be registered
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 03:42 AM
Feb 2013

and not have guns. Ruining it for everyone, they are. (rude gesture to LaPierre)

BlueMTexpat

(15,350 posts)
21. Wayne LP is really a piece of work ...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:05 AM
Feb 2013

at least Charlton Heston served. Much as I disliked Heston's NRA advocacy, it's really not fair to cite the Michael Moore interview b/c Heston was clearly in advanced stages of Alzheimer's by then. God help anyone ravaged by that disease!

Another Alzheimer's sufferer who seemed to believe that he served - when he didn't except in fantasy - was St Ronnie of Raygun.

Scalia did attend a Catholic military school. He likely believes that was the same as serving. In some ways, it might have been. http://www.biography.com/people/antonin-scalia-9473091

 

Tom Ripley

(4,945 posts)
22. Actually, Reagan kinda sorta served. He was a Culver City Commando who made training films...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:19 AM
Feb 2013

during WWII. He never left the states and saw combat, but he did fly a make-up table. I guess he would not be classified as a REMF (Rear Echelon Mother Fucker), but as a RMF (Revlon Mother Fucker)

The Wielding Truth

(11,411 posts)
23. Wow. Just, wow!! He used a medically diagnosed mental disorder to decieve our nation. Barf!!!
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:30 AM
Feb 2013

Now he is the mouth piece for the NRA to promote gun sales. What a nauseating nasty sick waste of space.

Kablooie

(18,572 posts)
25. Anyone who's paranoid enough to want a gun to protect themselves from the US government ...
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 04:34 AM
Feb 2013

should be declared mentally unstable and therefore denied access to guns.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
28. From a legal perspective, no only if he meets the criteria for a "prohibited person".
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 06:54 AM
Feb 2013

National standard is adjudicated incompetent by a court or involuntarily committed under fort order.

I think to judge anyone in the present for a long-past mental health issue is extremely unfair. People can and are successfully treated, recover, and move on. I personally know several people, one a prominent DU member, who have overcome far more serious symptoms than LaPierre and live very fulfilling lives, almost "transparent" in their mental health issues, virtually no one around them has a clue. The same applies to me, even though I'm only months down this road, the only people who know are those I choose to tell. A few people obviously at the outset knew something was up, but not what - it was kinda hard to cover up the locking myself in the office and crying/puking thing.

ALL of that being said, LaPierre is a vile man, a hypocrite of the worst kind. I hate the NRA with a passion, the entire post-Newtown thing has upset me tremendously, and old Wayne deserves whatever bad comes to him for the pain he has caused others through his "work".

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
29. Chickenhawk Republicans are a veritable Plague upon the nation
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 07:35 AM
Feb 2013

These Republicans all need to take a long, hard look in the mirror to detect the deranged, fear-driven quiver that perpetually pulses up and down their spines.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
30. Does anyone have a good source for this?
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 12:43 PM
Feb 2013

I would love to add the draft deferment information to LaPierre's bio in Wikipedia, but the awolbush website isn't sufficiently mainstream to satisfy many Wikipedia editors. Besides, although awolbush links to sources for some of its assertions, it has no backup for that one. If the information is valid it must have come from somewhere.

I did a quick skim of the first couple pages of Google hits but didn't turn up anything.

Surely someone dislikes Wayne LaPierre enough to dig up the dirt on him?

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