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Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:08 PM

Jimmy Lee Dykes Holds Alabama Boy Hostage For Fifth Day, Authorities Mum About Talks

One of Dykes' next-door neighbors said the suspect spent two or three months constructing the bunker, digging several feet into the ground and then building a structure of lumber and plywood, which he covered with sand and dirt.

Neighbor Michael Creel said Dykes put the plastic pipe underground from the bunker to the end of his driveway so he could hear if anyone drove up to his gate. When Dykes finished the shelter a year or so ago, he invited Creel to see it and he did.

"He was bragging about it. He said, `Come check it out," Creel said.

He said he believes Dykes' goal with the standoff is to publicize his political beliefs.

"I believe he wants to rant and rave about politics and government," Creel said. "He's very concerned about his property. He doesn't want his stuff messed with."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/02/alabama-hostage-jimmy-lee-dykes-police_n_2605379.html

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Reply Jimmy Lee Dykes Holds Alabama Boy Hostage For Fifth Day, Authorities Mum About Talks (Original post)
FarCenter Feb 2013 OP
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #1
Brickbat Feb 2013 #3
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #4
Brickbat Feb 2013 #5
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #11
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #8
sylvi Feb 2013 #16
sasha031 Feb 2013 #2
graham4anything Feb 2013 #6
sasha031 Feb 2013 #9
lunasun Feb 2013 #7
nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #10
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #12
treestar Feb 2013 #13
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #14
TeamPooka Feb 2013 #15
JI7 Feb 2013 #17
FarCenter Feb 2013 #18

Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:21 PM

1. I'm wondering why the authorities can get comic books and goodies down to this boy to

 

calm him yet they can't get some kind of gas down in there to make them sleep long enough to get the boy out? During the Moscow theater incident and they used sleep gas grenades on the terrorists. This can also be pumped into the air supply or vent. I believe in Moscow they used 3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate but there are others like isofluran, desflurane, halothane, and even nitrous oxide. Most used in hospitals around the world.

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Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:23 PM

3. The boy would need only a little to go under. The adult would need much more. The difference could

put the kid in danger.

More than 100 people died in the Moscow theater incident you refer to because of bad reactions to the gas that was pumped in.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:28 PM

4. I was using the Moscow gas as an example. It couldn't be used in this particular case because of

 

it's bitter smell, however the others I listed could. Good point about the weight difference but a Dr might be able to find an amount of something similar to what i listed that could be safely used.

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Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:29 PM

5. Doubtful.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:39 PM

11. Just brainstorming. I can sit here all day and say how sad it is, but there are thousands of

 

people from all different walks of life and varying degrees of experience here on this forum and it just seemed appropriate to open a dialog about possibilities for rescuing this boy.

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Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:32 PM

8. Cause it can kill the boy way faster than the adult

why anesthesia is usually administered while in full life support.

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Response to DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:56 PM

16. That was believed to be fentanyl gas

 

and it killed 117 of the hostages. Introducing anesthetic gas into an uncontrolled environment is a dicey affair. There's a reason that when it's used in surgery there's an anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist sitting right at the head of the patient, closely monitoring them.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:23 PM

2. Wish I had feelings that this will have a positive outcome

heart breaks for the poor child & family.
How is it that this monster was able to have guns after killing a neighbors dog and shooting at children.
Just tuned in to CNN no changes, law enforcement are grateful that Dykes allowed child to have coloring books.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:29 PM

6. Why release his name? Wouldn't it be better to say criminal holds little boy hostage?

 

never name a blackmailer or terrorist or gun murderers name

it stops copycats.


imho

or call him rightwing republicantealibertarian extremist.
better than his personal name.

imho

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:32 PM

9. I'm not sure what the motive is by the media nor law enforcement to humanize this psycho

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:30 PM

7. How come no big name "rightie" has offered to come try to talk him out??

Seems like a missed opportunity to help the situation and they always want attention for their platforms / shows
Or are they already playing up the governmt trying to invade his home and take away his gun as the message ?

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Response to lunasun (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:36 PM

10. Yeah, perhaps Rush could save the day?

I'm sure they wouldn't let any of them talk to the guy. There is tons of special training that go into this. Would you put your child's life in the hands of someone as unhinged and inconsistent as Rush or Beck?

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Response to lunasun (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:44 PM

12. That's a thought. Ask family members who his hero's are. Give his hero a ear mic, feed him what

 

needs to be said through the mic. I couldn't care less who gets the kudos for getting the little boy out, as long as gets out.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:04 PM

13. As one of the commenters on Huffpo pointed out

If only the boy had a gun in his lunch bag! Then he could have defended himself.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:39 PM

14. he can say anything he wants to say at his murder trial. psycho killer

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:48 PM

15. we need to get this guy out of his small windowless room in the ground

and put him in a small windowless room with metal bars.

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Response to FarCenter (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 05:34 PM

17. is it legal to build that bunker ?

if not shouldn't it have been reported to authorities before ?

the guy did so many things before this one incident. he should never have had weapons at the point where this happened.

i don't understand why he wasn't in prison either. was he arrested at all for the previous things he did ?

this is what will go on everywhere if the right wing had their way.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 06:21 PM

18. It is similar to a tornado shelter -- they are reasonably common in tornado country

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