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Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:15 AM

5-Year-Old Threatened With Suspension For Making Gun Out Of Legos

HYANNIS (CBS) – A mother says her 5-year-old boy was threatened with suspension after he made a gun out of Legos during an after school program.

Sheila Cruz received a written warning recently about her son from the after school staff at the Hyannis West Elementary School because he had been using toys inappropriately.

While Cruz thought her son Joseph Cardosa was just being a kid, she said school administrators called his actions a threat.

“I was given a book and they told me he’s going to be suspended if he does it again and to sign here,” Cruz told WBZ NewsRadio 1030 Tuesday. “I just couldn’t believe it. He’s 5-years-old.”

Joseph’s parents called the school principal but were given the same warning.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/01/29/hyannis-5-year-old-threatened-with-suspension-for-making-gun-out-of-legos/

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Reply 5-Year-Old Threatened With Suspension For Making Gun Out Of Legos (Original post)
n2doc Feb 2013 OP
Enrique Feb 2013 #1
randome Feb 2013 #10
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #12
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #24
Purveyor Feb 2013 #27
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #57
AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #67
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #69
Enrique Feb 2013 #29
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #56
Enrique Feb 2013 #60
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #62
aikoaiko Feb 2013 #2
Nay Feb 2013 #3
Robb Feb 2013 #8
obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #21
HappyMe Feb 2013 #32
Nay Feb 2013 #37
The Straight Story Feb 2013 #4
Robb Feb 2013 #9
The Straight Story Feb 2013 #17
marions ghost Feb 2013 #23
The Straight Story Feb 2013 #26
marions ghost Feb 2013 #28
KittyWampus Feb 2013 #42
newfie11 Feb 2013 #5
joeunderdog Feb 2013 #63
newfie11 Feb 2013 #71
Dash87 Feb 2013 #73
enlightenment Feb 2013 #6
Robb Feb 2013 #7
Bandit Feb 2013 #15
Robb Feb 2013 #22
Enrique Feb 2013 #30
KittyWampus Feb 2013 #44
2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #11
joeybee12 Feb 2013 #13
woodsprite Feb 2013 #14
Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #16
marions ghost Feb 2013 #25
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #34
RC Feb 2013 #58
Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #72
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #18
derby378 Feb 2013 #19
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #36
rjj621 Feb 2013 #41
Ashgrey77 Feb 2013 #64
HappyMe Feb 2013 #20
backtoblue Feb 2013 #31
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #33
fadedrose Feb 2013 #35
derby378 Feb 2013 #50
Remmah2 Feb 2013 #38
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #39
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #43
KittyWampus Feb 2013 #45
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #48
kentuck Feb 2013 #40
Viking12 Feb 2013 #46
4Q2u2 Feb 2013 #47
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #49
4Q2u2 Feb 2013 #52
rjj621 Feb 2013 #54
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #65
lumberjack_jeff Feb 2013 #51
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #53
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randome Feb 2013 #59
bowens43 Feb 2013 #61
guardian Feb 2013 #66
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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:16 AM

1. my kid got a warning -- alert the media! n/t

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:38 AM

10. Yeah, I know.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:42 AM

12. Cause this zero tolerance policy is stupid

Read the story again. Unless Legos are a working weapon this is sheer stupidity.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:24 PM

24. Next: expulsion for drawing a picture of a gun - held by a cowboy on a horse.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:27 PM

27. I think that has actually happened in the past. eom

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:18 PM

57. I drew such when growing up

Worst, we enjoyed hangman at school. I know, a deadly and worthy of expulsion offense.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #57)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:13 PM

67. Nadin I remember reading some where

on DU, about a kid who was suspended for pointing his finger at another student, and saying bang bang. The kid only used his hand to represent a weapon, and I thought that was rather off the wall. The kid, like this one was very young.

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Response to AsahinaKimi (Reply #67)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:14 PM

69. I know, a few believe it's ok

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:42 PM

29. I read it again and noticed something i had missed

the story starts by saying the boy received a warning letter. It ends with a quote from the mother, "couldn't they have given him a warning?"

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Response to Enrique (Reply #29)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:17 PM

56. And you think there should have even been a warning?

I am asking a very serious question. In the current environment I would have been expelled as early as first grade, if not earlier...I could draw some really violent pictures...involving...guns, I know, the horror!

This is sheer stupidity...or can I somehow make a working gun from...Legos?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #56)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:03 PM

60. think of it like a dress code

you could ask me about some random school in the middle of nowhere, "do you think that kid should have been sent home for not wearing a tie?" My honest answer would be that the tie is not that important, but I would also say, if you're at that school just wear the stupid tie. And if your kid gets sent home for not having a tie, don't call the local news.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #60)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:28 PM

62. And in this you think a five year old knows

Not to draw super heroes, with gunz I know...horror!

Funny you mention dress code, we had uniforms. A five year old gets warned due to the über dangerous super fully automatic Legos gun...

A teen at the top of her class faces expulsion for writing a somewhat violent poem after Newtown...

Are you starting to grasp the problem here? For the record, I would have been expelled for violent poetry too.

I am thankful I don't ave kids...we are killing that creativity in the name of security...what did one of the Founders write on the Subject? Oh never mind, in the name of security will stop teaching that too

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:17 AM

2. At least they didn't suspend him summarily.


I suppose that is growth for those stuck with zero tolerance.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:22 AM

3. When is this nonsense going to stop? Teachers and schools DESTROY their own reputations

when they act like this, esp when they actually are dumb enough to call the cops over it.

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:31 AM

8. No one called the cops.

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:22 PM

21. Yes, blame thd teachers

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Response to Nay (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:05 PM

32. The teacher has to carry out the

school policy. I don't think they have much choice in the matter.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #32)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:22 PM

37. I know this specific incident didn't involve cops -- but the last few incidents here on DU did. I

was making a generalized comment about the general 'kid with a watergun/finger gun/lego gun' craziness.

I should NOT have implied that teachers are responsible -- I know they have to follow whatever idiot rules have been put in place. I also should have expanded on my frustration by asking whether the school boards/states/counties who install such rules are overrun with Pubs who want to make the schools look stupid (thus aiding in their destruction) or whether this is the result of other kinds of craziness.

My main point is that it is the teacher and the school are both made to look stupid in these scenarios, and it behooves them (and us) to determine what can be done to bring sanity back into these situations.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:22 AM

4. In 3rd grade me and my friends used to draw war and super hero battles

Vietnam was still fresh in everyone's minds and talked about in school (Our teacher had someone she knew there, can't remember the relation to her though). This was like 1973/74.

We had tanks, guns, paratroopers, etc we would draw in our down time and play 'tank game' where you draw a tank and use your pencil to shoot at the opposing on (hold your finger on top of the pencil, apply pressure, and let it fly, mark the spot, next turn, etc).

Teachers smoked on the playground and in the lounge

The thing we were most afraid of was tornadoes. We had drills for those and fire.

Outside of that we did get into 'stranger danger' discussion in our patrol group (I was a crossing guard in 5th/6th grade and would walk a good distance away from school to help the other kids cross - this job is done by grown ups now).

We had baked goods our parents would send for birthdays. Sang Christmas and Hannukah songs. No state testing.

School was fun for the most part.

Now it is a business.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:34 AM

9. You've got sort of a a gun-lovin' Andy Rooney thing going, huh?

"Have you noticed there aren't as many homemade gifts given anymore? It's the Gun Grabbin' Liberals."

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Response to Robb (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:50 AM

17. We also made ashtrays out of clay for our parents

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:24 PM

23. "Was"

Those were the olden days. This is now.

I think it's fine for schools to discourage guns, pictures of guns and Lego guns if they want to. Not be heavy about it, just ask the child not to do that. Images of guns disturb others.

Not a lot to ask.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:27 PM

26. Question is why now and not then?

Guns have not changed but society has. Why and how?

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:35 PM

28. Times have changed

in a big way. Not many people want to live in a country where you can get gunned down in a public place. The tipping point has been reached.

I would answer your question in more depth but I don't have time right now. If you or people in general can even ASK this question, then there is a whole lotta territory to cover. Suffice to say, a lot of people have had it up to HERE.

Life is not worth living if you have to be afraid to go out of the house--whether you carry a gun because of that, or not.

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Response to The Straight Story (Reply #26)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:48 PM

42. Thankfully, yes. Society is changing. For the better. It's called "PROGRESS".

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:22 AM

5. This is hysteria

Legos today, machine guns tomorrow!!!!

Come on this is a kid and Legos ....

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Response to newfie11 (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:35 PM

63. Maybe it was more of an Open Carry violation. nt

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Response to joeunderdog (Reply #63)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:14 PM

71. Lol nt

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Response to newfie11 (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:55 PM

73. I don't like how the topic of guns has become a moral panic.

It's not surprising, but it makes it less likely that any decent gun control measures will be passed. It turns the gun control issue into a parody of itself. This story is one example of that.

A 5 year old is obviously not going to kill anyone (and wouldn't have the mental capacity to even contemplate it).

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:27 AM

6. Perhaps it would have been better for the

teacher or aide or whomever to sit down and help the child build something else - perhaps gently explain that making a gun isn't nice and there are so many other interesting and fun things to create?

They could have made it a learning moment instead of shrieking hysteria - with a note home to mom and dad that they should keep an eye on him and - again - encourage him to express himself in different ways.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:30 AM

7. This article is nonsense. Observe:

Second paragraph:

Sheila Cruz received a written warning recently about her son from the after school staff at the Hyannis West Elementary School because he had been using toys inappropriately.


Sixth paragraph:

“‘I said listen, he’s a 5-year-old, I think maybe a redirection would be more appropriate. I understand what’s going on with this whole thing in schools and everything else but couldn’t they have given him a warning?’ ” Cruz said.


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Response to Robb (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:48 AM

15. The difference is between giving his mother a warning and giving the child a warning.

Why couldn't they have just given the child a warning and let it go at that unless he did it again. Why send a formal letter of warning to his mother?

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Response to Bandit (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:23 PM

22. Perhaps I've just interacted with the age group more recently than most.

Addressing disruptive behavior with 5 year-olds is rough sledding on all fronts; a reasonable caregiver would be forgiven for thinking a parent might be an ally in helping change the behavior.

Rather than, for instance, heading to the local news with her story.

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Response to Robb (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:47 PM

30. yeah, that's pretty funny

also it's dumb that the article did not address that contradiction. It shows they report on these things kind of mindlessly.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:51 PM

44. Indicates to me there's a bias in the story against the warning.

Sort of like >>> "Hey everyone, school wildly overreacts to perfectly normal childhood behavior".

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:40 AM

11. the legos just stacked into an L shape

The 5 year old probably was not trying to make a gun. He started stacking lego's, ended up with an L, and if you pick up that L shaped lego stack, it would have to become a gun.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:43 AM

13. Yeah, but if he'd made a real gun,

He'd get a gig on FUX

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:44 AM

14. Where in my son's class (7th grade art), a kid made marshallow shooters for everyone

and has been asked by his teacher to plan on selling them at a craft fair. I am a bit surprised because, even though the kid doing it had been working on it as an independent craft project, they were distributed to her art classmates as xmas presents the week after the CT massacre. Then for the teacher to suggest selling them at the student craft fair - I was thinking she needed some money to buy a clue and some sensitivity.

Truthfully, how can a kid use a freaking toy inappropriately unless he used the blocks to whack the kid over the head! Heck, 1/8th of any Toys-R-Us is filled with guns - no matter where you go. You have the action figures with weapons, then the dress up play sets to match the action figures that have full size weapons, then there is several rows of Nerf guns, Aqua Blasters, Cap guns, Super Soakers, Power Blasters, Airsoft, and Paintball guns, etc...

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:49 AM

16. For good marks when I was in elementary you school you could choose trinkets froma box

Among the many toys were army men, action figures etc.. Overall I think we have gone f*cking loco and bat shit paranoid. IMHO.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:26 PM

25. Paranoia can be good

if it keeps you alive.

These days, when a school can easily become a war zone, you have to draw a line in the sand.

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Response to marions ghost (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:14 PM

34. Ah yes, obviously, that construction of Legos could become a deadly weapon at any moment! n/t

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #34)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:36 PM

58. Yes, absolutely.

 

It's a good thing he was stopped before he built some bullets for it, or they'd all be dead.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #34)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:31 PM

72. Today it's just a toy gun made from Legos

But next thing you know they have banks of high-speed centrifuges cranking out fissile material high-yield tri-phase nuclear warheads that induce anti-proton sub-atomic singularity inductions that swallow the entire solar system.

Surely, you don't think the 2nd Amendment protects those, do you?

Legos are the gateway doomsday device.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:54 AM

18. I didn't even know what a gun looked like when I was 5...

 

This was a good call by the school.

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Response to EastKYLiberal (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:18 PM

19. Schools that bend over too far backwards will soon learn that they have no spine

This "zero tolerance" business is odious.

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Response to derby378 (Reply #19)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:19 PM

36. Damned straight.

You can't even have toy guns?

Back when I was a kid, we had toy guns all the time. They didn't have the orange things on the ends of the barrels to show they're toys. Sometimes, they even shot projectiles. Usually not hard enough to damage people very much.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #36)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:46 PM

41. I remember those

Most of the boys in my neighborhood all had toy gun and the more realistic the better. We would all play cops/robbers or war or any other number of things our young imaginations could come up with and typically have the arguments of "I shot you" "No you didn't". Many of us had a gun with a clip in the handle to put a strip of plastic caps to make to pop. When there was no more noise we were out of bullets and had to reload. Back when kids could be kids.

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Response to EastKYLiberal (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:43 PM

64. Sorry, but that is impossible. n/t

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:21 PM

20. This is just dumb.


Small comfort that they didn't suspend the kid outright.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:02 PM

31. my son likes to draw action heroes

sometimes they have swords or bows or guns. I've told him that to make sure he doesn't draw guns at school because it could be taken wrong by some.

When he raised an eyebrow at me, I sat him down an explained that guns are a very sensitive topic and that besides, ninjas don't need guns. We don't have guns in our house, but I was concerned that his drawings could be taken wrong.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:13 PM

33. Totally ridiculous.

I used to draw pictures of deaths that today would make it into a Saw movie, and the teachers didn't bat an eye.

No, I didn't grow up to be a serial killer.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:18 PM

35. Man, this is serious. Biden better get on this stuff

This makes a mockery of the real problem.

A 5-year old with Legos is innocent, and I'm surprised that anybody recognized what it was. He should have been praised for ingenuity then incouraged to make something like cars, planes, etc.

Poor kid. Poor parents..

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #35)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:42 PM

50. We should ban assault Legos - especially the high-capacity ones

You know, the Lego "bricks" that are actually plates that you can stack tons of smaller bricks on? They have no business being on the streets. I should know - I accidentally stepped on one of those little suckers while barefoot, and it hurt like Hell.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:42 PM

39. Are school administrators required to shed common sense at the school house door?

Okay, I understand the problem with guns and the concerns at schools. But we get a steady litany of these kinds of stories (not just about guns) where administrators seem to just blindly apply well-meaning rules in ridiculous, oppressive fashion.

Zero tolerance seems to come down to zero critical thinking.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:49 PM

43. Zero tolerance is license for authoritarian assholes to jerk people around on a whim.

Essentially a powergrab by water-cooler and playground dictators.

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Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #39)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:52 PM

45. Ever work with the public? I and my family have for many decades. Make an exception for one

and the next person WILL want favorable treatment.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #45)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:27 PM

48. That's when you tell the next person.

"That's why they're called EXEMPTIONS. I chose to give the last guy one. I don't have to give you one."

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:44 PM

40. This is the type of anecdotal story that will make FOX News.

As if it is the rule and not the exception.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:56 PM

46. Bullshit story about a whiny foxnews parent

The school is prohibited by law from discussing the incident. As others have posted above, the parent "received a warning" (probably not a 'warning').

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:08 PM

47. Local Paper Account

"Although her son had been in trouble a few weeks earlier for pointing his finger as if it were a gun, Cruz said she hadn't heard any other complaints about his behavior.

Joseph, who pointed the Lego gun at other students and made shooting sounds, received several verbal reminders that he must be safe and respectful before he was formally reprimanded, Barnstable schools Superintendent Mary Czajkowski said Tuesday.

“At least five verbal reminders of proper, respectful and safe behavior were given,” she said.
Other students became uncomfortable and moved away from Joseph because of his behavior, she said.
School officials reacted appropriately in issuing the reprimand, Czajkowski said"


Cape Cod Times.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #47)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:28 PM

49. OH MY GOD!!!

A child is making gun gestures at me! I am so uncomfortable! Call the police!!!

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #49)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:04 PM

52. The People

The people that were uncomfortable were 5 yr old children. The teachers have an obligation to protect them. I agree that some 5 yr old pointing a gun at an adult would not elicit fear, but we have scared our children death in this country with everything. "Call the police" is also a far cry from a written letter to the parent stating that your child has not been obeying the rules. This is the result of our society trying to cocoon our children from the world, they are ruled and regulated into submission. One size fits all rules, usually bad rules.

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #52)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:07 PM

54. +1 n/t

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Response to 4Q2u2 (Reply #52)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:45 PM

65. Funny, when I was five, gun gestures didn't bother me.

My friends and I were making gun gestures and bang-bang noises (or pew-pew noises - we were all into Star Wars), pointing toy guns at each other, and engaging in endless hours of pretend violence. Nobody was "uncomfortable."

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:45 PM

51. School on alert!

Bomb squad was called in just to be safe.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:06 PM

53. So much for my Roy Rogers gun and holster!

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:11 PM

55. Reminds me of the old joke about the guy getting the Rorschach test.



"Hey, they're your dirty pictures!"


They
provided the gun parts.



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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:44 PM

59. Yes, the intolerance expressed by schools is ridiculous.

But it's not as simple as it seems. Everyone saying, "Well, in my day we..." is missing the larger picture.

We have a more violent culture than before. We have greater population densities and our schools are hopelessly underfunded.

All these things play into the impetus to develop zero-tolerance policies.

I'm not agreeing with them, mind you, but stepping back and observing why officials move in that direction becomes a little clearer when you look at all the factors involved.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:27 PM

61. Good. They need to learn early that guns are evil and they will not be tolerated.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #61)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:22 PM

66. I guess those school administrators will learn them there youngin's

 

Dialog between teacher and student

Teacher: "You're gonna get your mind right--and I mean right"
Student: Don't hit me anymore...Oh God, I pray to God you don't hit me anymore. I'll do anything you say, but I can't take anymore.
Teacher: You got your mind right, Luke?
Student: Yeah. I got it right. I got it right, boss. (He grips the ankles of the teacher)
Teacher: Suppose you's back-slide on us?
Student: Oh no I won't. I won't, boss.
Teacher: Suppose you's to back-sass?
Student: No I won't. I won't. I got my mind right.
Teacher: You draw a picture of a gun again, we gonna kill ya.
Student: I won't, I won't, boss.

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Response to bowens43 (Reply #61)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:38 PM

68. Guns are bad, mkay.

Mr. Mackey's of the world unite.

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Response to n2doc (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 07:29 PM

70. Oops! That will be my great grandson. He is very creative with legos.

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