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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:26 PM

Santorum: Obama wants Americans to go to college to become indoctrinated

With all the news being focused on Newt and Mittens, he had to say something bold to get his name back in the news:

Rick Santorum accused President Obama of wanting Americans to go to colleges and universities that will indoctrinate them to be liberals.

"It's no wonder President Obama wants every kid to go college," Santorum said Wednesday in Florida, according to CBS News. "The indoctrination that occurs in American universities is one of the keys to the left holding and maintaining power in America. And it is indoctrination. If it was the other way around, the ACLU would be out there making sure there wasn't one penny of government dollars going to colleges and universities, right?"



"If they teach radical secular ideology, they get all the government support that they can possibly give them," Santorum continued. "Because, you know, 62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it."

Santorum's comments continue down a route of attack on Obama he's taken in the past, accusing the president of saying every American has to go to college.




http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/206633-santorum-says-obama-wants-more-americans-to-go-to-college-so-they-can-be-indoctrinated

Video here: http://cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2012/01/25/bts-santorum-colleges-against-faith.cnn


No! Ricky, that is Education not indoctrination.

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Reply Santorum: Obama wants Americans to go to college to become indoctrinated (Original post)
liberal N proud Jan 2012 OP
hobbit709 Jan 2012 #1
Demonaut Jan 2012 #2
callous taoboy Jan 2012 #19
FiveGoodMen Jan 2012 #3
RKP5637 Jan 2012 #4
Sheepshank Jan 2012 #5
Lint Head Jan 2012 #6
Enrique Jan 2012 #7
tridim Jan 2012 #8
Aerows Jan 2012 #9
appleannie1 Jan 2012 #10
Hugabear Jan 2012 #22
hifiguy Jan 2012 #11
truebrit71 Jan 2012 #12
liberal N proud Jan 2012 #16
newspeak Jan 2012 #24
louis-t Jan 2012 #32
hifiguy Jan 2012 #37
handmade34 Jan 2012 #30
NewJeffCT Jan 2012 #31
liberal N proud Jan 2012 #40
Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #13
ceile Jan 2012 #14
MarianJack Jan 2012 #15
The Genealogist Jan 2012 #17
handmade34 Jan 2012 #18
hifiguy Jan 2012 #21
drm604 Jan 2012 #20
HangOnKids Jan 2012 #27
MNBrewer Jan 2012 #23
lsewpershad Jan 2012 #25
Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #26
karynnj Jan 2012 #28
nobodyspecial Jan 2012 #29
BiggJawn Jan 2012 #33
Skidmore Jan 2012 #34
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #35
hifiguy Jan 2012 #38
yellowcanine Jan 2012 #36
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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:28 PM

1. Just because he got indoctrinated in stupidity, doesn't mean everyone did.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:30 PM

2. the stupid....it hurts....

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Response to Demonaut (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:56 PM

19. Bwaaa ha ha!

It really does hurt.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:32 PM

3. So Mr Frothy Mix is OFFICIALLY against higher education?!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:33 PM

4. Santorum would prefer the nation be a bunch of illiterate ignorant fools he can push around that

can't think and can be easily indoctrinated by Santorum-speak.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:33 PM

5. OTOH, Santorum may have read the article about

dumbasses, being racist and conservative, and realized college may ring in the end of the evangelical, tea bag, conservative.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:33 PM

6. Sure, Obama is a mind control ninja!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:34 PM

7. Santorum's father went to college on the GI bill

he called it "the greatest gift anyone ever gave me."

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:35 PM

8. I think he's confusing school with church.

It's just stunning that a presidential candidate doesn't even understand that Universities are for educating students in their fields of choice.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:36 PM

9. "62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it"

Um, yeah, because they learn critical thinking. When you learn critical thinking you stop accepting things on "faith" and start thinking for yourself.

At any rate, I'm pleased to hear that Santorum has such a dim view of education. I hope the doctor, lawyer, dentist and accountant that he uses never went to college, either. I'm sure that will work out really well for Santorum. It's not like you need a formal education to become an engineer, a scientist or a physician, right?

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:37 PM

10. That idiot went to Penn State, Pitt and law school. If it is ok for him, it should be for others.

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Response to appleannie1 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:01 PM

22. +1000 - typical rethug hypocrite

I'm sure that Santorum would claim that he was a special exception to the rule

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:38 PM

11. If 62 percent of the young adults -

they're not "children," FrothyMix - discard their "faith convictions" after receiving a college education perhaps it is because they have learned the most important thing there is to know - critical thinking skills. And I think he pulled that statistic out of his ass.

Calling Santorum an imbecile is insulting to the other imbeciles.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:39 PM

12. ..and do you know why that 62% lose their belief whilst in college you dumb prick?

...because they can finally make their OWN damned minds up about the fairy tales they've been force-fed since birth and they finally figure out IT'S ALL BULLSHIT...

What a stupid, stupid STUPID little man he is..

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:52 PM

16. And that is the real concern for conservatives

People making up their own minds, it goes against the odds of republicans winning elections. If everyone was free to make up their own mind, the GOP would be a small group who met for coffee once a year and complained about their problems.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:05 PM

24. my son took a history class in college

he called and told me "I didn't know this history, they didn't teach us this stuff in HS." What he was talking about was the labor struggle in the US, the NA exploitation, the political corruption, robber barons and other truths, they don't want the plebes to know.

It's not indoctrination, students finally get to debate their fellow students on touchy subjects; and a class in logic is usually required.

He went to college; so it's okay for him to go, but not others? Well, that sounds down right "elitist."

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Response to newspeak (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:34 PM

32. Now you know why repugs want Ayn Rand taught in college.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #32)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:28 PM

37. Rand should be taught in college

English comp classes. As the perfect example of galactically shitty writing, which is to be avoided like plague rats.

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:33 PM

30. the irony is

that not going to college allows the church to maintain the indoctrination they started when the student was young

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:34 PM

31. As Bill Clinton once said

"When people have time to think, they vote Democratic."

or something like that.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #31)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 03:30 PM

40. Exactly

I have often said that Democrats think for them selves and Republicans do not.

This is also the only reson Republicans can win elections, people stop thinking for themselves.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:40 PM

13. #facepalm

There is a deep strain of anti-intellectualism that runs through the Bible, and Ricky sure is eaten up with it.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:40 PM

14. You just can't make this shit up... n/t

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:46 PM

15. I'll say what I've been saying regarding little ricky santorum since 1993.

SHUT UP!

He's a little shit. I do, however, hope against hope that HE'LL be the rethug nominee. Oh what a wipeout it would be for President Obama.

PEACE!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:53 PM

17. This Santora-Rant is full of Froth

How many children enter college? Where did the 62% figure come from? What indoctrination? "The Left" is "holding power" in America? Just a mess of RW talking points strung together in the same way as usual.

The RW's goal is to create a plutocratic theocracy. They have a pretty good chunk of their infrastructure in place now. RWers like Santorum want a US population that will go along with whatever they do or say or pass into law, without question. Critical thinking is like Kryptonite to the philosophical underpinnings of a plutocratic theocracy, and the RW hates higher education because it teaches critical thinking skills.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:55 PM

18. it is called critical thinking

and a continuing of the arts

"Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture." Francis Bacon

http://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/our-mission/599
"Critical thinking is essential if we are to get to the root of our problems and develop reasonable solutions. After all, the quality of everything we do is determined by the quality of our thinking."


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Response to handmade34 (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:59 PM

21. Yep, and it repels conservatives

the way garlic repels Dracula. It is utterly incompatible with their pathecally dualistic worldview.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 12:57 PM

20. He has a B.A., an M.B.A., and a J.D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum#Early_life.2C_education.2C_and_legal_career
Santorum earned a B.A. with honors in political science from Pennsylvania State University in 1980, an M.B.A. from the University of Pittsburgh in 1981, and a J.D. with honors from the Dickinson School of Law in 1986

Seems he's had a lot of years of left-wing indoctrination.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:16 PM

27. Rick wants kids to stay in diapers until they are 40+

Like his co-worker Vitter.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:03 PM

23. Says the man who sends his kids to Opus Dei schools.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:10 PM

25. Not only stoopid

but a "prick"

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:16 PM

26. And repubs are constantly saying US workers lack education. Amazing hypocrisy

Blame the victim, and then blame them for any move to "pull themselves up from their bootstraps".

Great commentary though from others on this thread at how critical thinking and open mindedness enlightens people from the narrow strictures of religion.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:17 PM

28. If (62 percent of children who enter college with a faith conviction leave without it." ) true, it's

not a real commitment and more likely almost the default answer that is repeated without thought.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:30 PM

29. Yes, college is the gateway to THINKING

And we know what happens then. All of the hate and prejudice and fear that has surrounded these students fades away as they learn and gain perspective. As their world view changes, they reject the fear and ignorance that you used to control them. After all, if we had an educated public, who would be left to vote for the GOP?

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 01:45 PM

33. Yeah, right...

Universities are Liberal? Couldn't prove it by looking around this place.

Google "Bert Chapman"

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:02 PM

34. And I just heard about an hour ago on the news that Rickie went home and decided

he didn't stand a chance in Florida.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:15 PM

35. Depicting colleges and universities as bastions of leftist ideology is so 60s.

Once again, Rick Santorum doesn't know shit from Shinola.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:30 PM

38. Which is why he shines his shoes with shit

and thinks Shinola is for spreading on the corn field.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:23 PM

36. And everyone knows it is a bad thing to give students something other than a Bible story version

of reality. My GAWD, they might find out that Pi = 3.14 and not 3!


I Kings 7:23-26

He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it. Below the rim, gourds encircled it ten to a cubit.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Jan 27, 2012, 02:45 PM

39. To paraphrase - Stay dumb and vote republican.

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