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Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:03 AM

Lawrence O'Donnell DESTROYS Testimony Of Female Wing-Nut Gun Rights Advocate Gayle Trotter





The Lawrence O'Donnell Wing-Nut ' SMACKDOWN ' begins at 5:00 of video.




During an interview on The Last Word Wednesday night, MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell challenged Trotter for not being able to provide one real life example of a case when an assault weapon specifically saved one woman’s life in that kind of a situation. “You don’t go to the Senate to imagine things!” O’Donnell said.

While speaking in front of the senators, Trotter described a hypothetical scene of a “young woman defending her babies in her home” when faced with “three, four, five violent attackers, intruders in her home with her children screaming in the background” as a reason to own an assault rifle.

“The peace of mind that she has, knowing that she has a scary-looking gun, gives her more courage when she’s fighting hardened, violent criminals,” said Trotter, who was the only woman on the five-person panel. “If we ban these types of assault weapons, you are putting these types of women at a great disadvantage–more so than men because they don’t have the same type of physical strength and opportunity to defend themselves in a hand-to-hand struggle.”



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Reply Lawrence O'Donnell DESTROYS Testimony Of Female Wing-Nut Gun Rights Advocate Gayle Trotter (Original post)
Segami Jan 2013 OP
TexasTowelie Jan 2013 #1
lapfog_1 Jan 2013 #10
Segami Jan 2013 #2
Mike Daniels Jan 2013 #7
AndyA Jan 2013 #3
Segami Jan 2013 #4
Cosmocat Jan 2013 #13
Little Star Jan 2013 #5
JustAnotherGen Jan 2013 #6
lunatica Jan 2013 #8
jmg257 Jan 2013 #9
lunatica Jan 2013 #11
loudsue Jan 2013 #19
lunatica Jan 2013 #42
dawnie51 Jan 2013 #12
MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #15
ProfessionalLeftist Jan 2013 #14
SemperEadem Jan 2013 #16
blue_heron Jan 2013 #17
prairierose Jan 2013 #24
rtassi Jan 2013 #25
Ineeda Jan 2013 #18
Whovian Jan 2013 #20
Remmah2 Jan 2013 #21
gtar100 Jan 2013 #22
Remmah2 Jan 2013 #31
Sheepshank Jan 2013 #23
rtassi Jan 2013 #30
Remmah2 Jan 2013 #32
DhhD Jan 2013 #26
Aviation Pro Jan 2013 #27
oldandhappy Jan 2013 #28
ca3799 Jan 2013 #29
dballance Jan 2013 #36
blue_heron Jan 2013 #38
jmg257 Jan 2013 #40
plethoro Jan 2013 #33
DhhD Jan 2013 #34
dballance Jan 2013 #35
99Forever Jan 2013 #37
farminator3000 Jan 2013 #39
Bake Jan 2013 #41
PennsylvaniaMatt Jan 2013 #43
JI7 Jan 2013 #44

Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:11 AM

1. Somebody might need to defend her babies from the stupid.

I saw the interview last night and she was Ms. Right Wing Talking Point 2013. Next thing we'll here from her lips is that she will work to promote world peace.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:02 AM

10. Whirled peas.

We need AK-47s to defend whirled peas.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:12 AM

2. HAHAHA,..Joe Scum just referred to Gayle Trotter as a ' jackass ' for her testimony

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Response to Segami (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:53 AM

7. There's not much that one can admire Joe Scarborough for but I'll give him points

for not backing down from his distaste for the NRA's survivalist wing and Wayne LaPierre's no-compromise attitude towards any attempts to reduce gun violence.

I fully expected him to swing back the other way once enough time had passed but I seems I'm wrong.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:22 AM

3. Loved O'Donnell's final remarks to Trotter!

"Your organization has no active members and consists of an email list of a thousand addresses..." (paraphrased)

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Response to AndyA (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:26 AM

4. LOL! He was looking for Wing-Nut blood last night!

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Response to Segami (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:13 AM

13. I would not want LO's teeth in my backside

He is not known/respected enough in the larger media, but he and Rachel Maddow are the sharpest/toughest media people out there.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:35 AM

5. He did a great job of exposing who she is. Kaboom!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:48 AM

6. My husband and I

Were laying in bed last night fist bumping and cheering him on!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:56 AM

8. Assault weapon wielding Mama!

I can see it as a comic book cover. Babies clinging to her ankles as she stands resolute with feet planted apart while blowing away five evil men intent on taking her babies, and probably her weapon, with a look of rage and blood lust that would stop a charging rhino in its tracks. Ya Mamaaaa!!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:58 AM

9. Someone here waaay ahead of you...see link!

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:02 AM

11. Thanks for the link!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:33 AM

19. It was this kind of mama that raised the kid who killed 20 babies in Connecticut.

In fact, it was his mother's assault rifle he used, if I remember correctly.

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Response to loudsue (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:24 PM

42. And he killed her first

He was obviously mentally ill.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:06 AM

12. LO mentioned that this woman has no organization..

just a list of names on a newsletter. Who is behind her? Where does her money come from? Who underwrites her ridiculous assertions? My guess is you won't have to look very deep; the NRA. Bought and paid for.

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Response to dawnie51 (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:16 AM

15. I think

Her backer is Armalite.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:25 AM

14. Trotter fought AGAINST VAWA before her Senate testimony for allowing assault weapons

Gayle Trotter Opposed Law To Protect Women Before Testifying On Guns For Moms

Trotter based her defense of gun rights on the need for women to defend themselves against those who would commit violent acts against them. Back in 2012, she was not as supportive of the federal government’s efforts to protect women with VAWA. The law, she wrote on the website of the Independent Women’s Forum, could promote false accusations of domestic violence.

Trotter opposed VAWA, she wrote last year, because it opened the door to false accusers wasting taxpayer funds.

“Americans all want to deter violence, but we also need to protect that foundational principle of the presumption of innocence,” said her April 2012 post. “Needed resources like shelters and legal aid can be taken by false accusers, denying real victims of abuse access to these supports. That result runs directly counter to the VAWA’s spirit.”


http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/gayle-trotter-violence-women-guns.php

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HOW MANY women have gone into the public or private sphere with high-capacity assault weapons and started shooting up people? Usually the perps are male. For whatever reason (I'm not slamming men here. That's just how it is.)

Yet this dingbat's answer to this is to fight AGAINST the VAWA and FOR continuing to allow assault weapons.

Where WAS she when they were handing out BRAINS?

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:20 AM

16. damn...

it's too bad LO didn't fling this in her teeth last night...

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:25 AM

17. this is the most hypocritical set of positions possible

which senate committee person invited her to be on the panel? that would be most telling. who decided she was a credible witness?

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Response to blue_heron (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:47 AM

24. Pick any repub member....it could be any or all....

this group has several spokes- mannequins who pop up all over media, both right and left, and parrot the repugnant talking point of the day. They make the usual arguments for whatever the topic is at the time, no one in the media challenges their nonsense. I was so happy that LO challenged her insanity. Hopefully, someone in the media will dig into the funding of this rw nonsense bureau and expose them for what they are.

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Response to blue_heron (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:51 AM

25. Thank you ... that was my question also ...

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:31 AM

18. I've noticed that the Wingers are appropriating

'choice' for the gun nuts and 'young' for the anti-choice nuts. Soon they'll be saying these words, which are antithetical to their traditional focus, in Spanish.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:34 AM

20. "Imagine a young mother protecting her babies with her BFG9000 as the invading zombie horde

 

breaks through the last of the barriers her now dead husband had constructed."

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:35 AM

21. Keep in mind the definition of assault weapons is inclusive of many handguns with 15 round magazines

 

The definition seems to fluctuate depending upon the situation and moment.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:44 AM

22. I would bet dollars to donuts that the only reason we are subjected to her insanity

is because some gun nut group (such as NRA) went far and wide looking for a woman so steeped in right wing talking points and willing to say anything for a price.

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Response to gtar100 (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:01 AM

31. Lots of women AR owners/shooters out there.

 

In fact they generally excel at the CMP matches.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:46 AM

23. He said she should speak in a manner not to embarass herself...

...and yet she went right on ahead and did just that.

I actually squirmed a little in my seat on her behalf, realizing she was too stupid to understand she entered into a shark tank without the proper equipment.

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:00 AM

30. And yet, I think LO could have discredited her

just as well, had he not lost his temper ... Raving at the stupid does not make your point clearer .. and we all know he is 10 stories smarter, and I love his passion ... but this can't be allowed to disintegrate into a shouting match with the insane ... people armed with facts, applying their platform and power to the majorities wishes will re-write this story ... great TV though! ... just my opinion
rt

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:03 AM

32. He was pretty condescending.

 

Smack down my ass, he was rude.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:52 AM

26. How did Ms. Trotter get to speak before the Senate? Who invited such a puppet?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:56 AM

27. Peace of mind?

Obviously, spoken by someone who has never heard shots fired in anger.

Fucking walking wad of used shit paper.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:00 AM

28. Heard that testimony on the radio

and was shaking my head. Reeealy? Such hype. These guys must have told their parents amazing stories about why they could not do their homework.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:00 AM

29. If you look up "the compelling story of Sarah McKinley"

If you look up "the compelling story of Sarah McKinley," you will see there is quite a bit odd about that story. People need to be wary of projecting themselves into the public eye when there are skeletons in the closet.

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Response to ca3799 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:29 AM

36. Could you Provide Some Specifics and a Link?

I googled Sarah McKinley and all I found were stories about the one shooting incident. So I'm curious as to what the skeletons in the closet are.

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Response to ca3799 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:08 PM

38. dead husband's drugs

I didn't track this story closely, but a few quick searches led to pages where my anti-virus software gave me warnings not to proceed.

but agree something about the story strikes me as odd. she's 18 with a 3 month old baby. this incident occurred the first week of January 2012, and her husband had died a week earlier from lung cancer. intruders were allegedly after his prescription drugs. I'm trying to figure out how old the husband was....an image suggests he was much much much older...and something suggests he was a rodeo rider? somehow they knew he had a lot of pain killers?

so the backstory of how this young woman winds up pregnant with a significantly older man who has terminal lung cancer seems does seem odd

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Response to ca3799 (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:12 PM

40. What also is goofy is that Trotter used McKinley's story for testimony(!!)

but didn't even know what gun she had used?!? (a shotgun)

WTF?

How stupid are these people?

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:06 AM

33. God, that was great. Larry simply humilified

 

this excuse for a woman beyond imagination.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:10 AM

34. Texas Senator Cornyn speaks about adding businesses providing mental health care. He could care

less about gun violence. Even though the State of Texas closed down many county and community mental health care offices, under the TEA TX Legislature and Governor Rick Perry, several years ago, he would accept federal funding for the business community's mental health care facilities.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:19 AM

35. I Was Disgusted by Her Spewing on Lawrence O'Donnell

First of all she wouldn't answer questions with a simple answer and O'Donnell called her out on it. It was beautiful to watch.

Then when he gave her a chance to speak she made it seem like the whole ban was solely a women's issue. I know her organization is the Independent Women’s Forum but she was ridiculous. She kept spouting over and over again we didn't need to place on undue burden on women to protect themselves. Again, as if the AWB is all about preventing only women from buying an assault-style weapon.

She said "its a scary looking gun." Quite frankly, any gun pointed at me is a scary looking gun. I suspect most common burglars/home invaders probably feel the same. I know there are those totally crazy ones who don't and will advance on a person with a weapon. They're nuts and deserve to get shot if that's what the home owner has to do to defend themselves.

As O'Donnell repeatedly pointed out all of the anecdotes presented in the hearing were about people using more common lower-end weapons like shotguns to defend themselves. Not a single one was presented about use of an assault-style weapon. So the GOP Senators and the NRA types actually proved the argument of the people who want to regulate the assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines. They proved that neither of these is necessary for home defense.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 11:47 AM

37. That was superb.

I love the smell of Delicate Flowers crashing and burning.

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:08 PM

39. that silly lady left her 'columns' up on her site after that debacle! hoooo boy!

IWF Directors Emeritae:
Lynne V. Cheney

no comment ^^^ whatsoever.

Trotter-
“We have to take action,” Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. urged in response to the Newtown horror. “The president is absolutely committed to keeping his promise that we will act.”

In other words, to quote a frat boy from the movie “Animal House”: “I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.”

///oh my! (so she doesn't give a shit about children? only women?)

When David Gregory’s magazines are outlawed, only David Gregory will have magazines.

different 'writer' from IWF home page:
The president’s inaugural address had all the trappings of hope and optimism — even limited government — but it remained firmly planted in the idea that America is a country of inequality — especially for women and girls.

the president of WHICH PLANET???

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 04:35 PM

41. Lawrence could have, but failed to, destroy anybody.

If he had let her talk without yelling over her, he could have destroyed her -- or let her destroy herself. Instead, as he always does, he immediately jumped in and started yelling over her.

That is really annoying, and it's ineffective. He is NOT a good bully.

Let her talk. She'll hang herself. Or as the President would say, "Please proceed."

Bake

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:29 PM

43. I loved how she kept saying "freedom to choose" and Lawrence nailed her on her hypocrisy!!

I'd like to know where the hell a person lives if they need an assault rifle to defend more than a couple of intruders!

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Response to Segami (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 05:29 PM

44. She kind of reminds me of Zimmerman's Black "friend"

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