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Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:12 AM

LaPierre's opposition to background checks makes no sense UNLESS you understand how the gun racket

works, and then it makes PERFECT sense.

How the racket works:

Step 1) Loosen gun laws, making it easy for criminals to get guns.
Step 2) Scare law abiding citizens about the number of guns the crooks have.
Step 3) Sell them lots of guns, make lots of money.
Step 4) Use some of that money to lobby Congress to...RETURN TO STEP 1

Repeat until 10 000 people are billionaires and 300 000 000 people are dead of gunshot wounds.

We need to get this message out. Once this con job has been exposed for what it is, support for the gun lobby will evaporate. Mainly because the paranoid gun nuts are also big conspiracy theorists. At the moment, they're buying guns and donating to whatever party is promising to let them KEEP ON buying guns, because of some stupid conspiracy theory that they're being set up for concentration camps by their own government. The only way to trump THAT conspiracy is by exposing the ACTUAL conspiracy. The conspiracy to PLAY THESE IDIOTS FOR SUCKERS by the GUN INDUSTRY for the soul purpose of making money.

I have no objection to making money. But making money is one thing...making money off the corpses of slaughtered children is something else.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:41 AM

1. After Columbine, one Congressman was approached by a pro-gun colleague...

seems that the NRA would support closing the gun-show-loophole only if the Pawn Broker loophole was reopened.

You're 100% correct.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:58 AM

2. 100% NICS background checks is so common-sense it isn't even funny.

 

Hi I'm 0.1%, I'm a super gun-nut and I'm not even ashamed to say it. Assault weapons, silencers, submachine guns and all sorts of crazy shit. I am a delicate flower. And even I... ME THE CRAZY GUN NUT... thinks everyone should have NICS run a criminal background search. I mean, c'mon! It takes 10 freakin' minutes for the guy to call NICS while I sit there thinking up a name for the new addition to my collection. Background checks are about the same level of inconvenience to me as wiping my ass well so my underwear don't get stains.

LaPierre is an ass.

Not only that... if you fail an NICS check the situation should be flagged and investigated. More or less, as it stands now, failed attempts to illegally purchase weapons are basically NOT pursued by the ATF. Hell, put a three-day waiting period on that shit and simply tell the person they passed (even though they failed) and to come pick it up in three days. When the dude shows up in 3 days, there's Mr ATF waiting to have a chat in the back room.

Nonviolent pot smokers should not be crowding up prisons... ex-convict criminals caught trying to buy guns should be.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:08 AM

3. Lapierre is just earning a paycheck.

by having such a ridiculous attitude, the gun companies probably pay him millions to be their spokesman, he may not even agree with his own words but thats what he's getting paid to say..a very pathetic reality.

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Response to jambo101 (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:46 PM

8. The whole Gun Industry debate reminds me a lot of the stupid CIGARETTE debate we went through

a few years ago. Where executives of cigarette companies would testify before Congress that cigarettes are not dangerous, do not cause cancer, and oh by the way...you're stamping on our FREEDOM and LIBERTY if you want to do anything to stop their use. Then, after they'd made their financial fortunes and retired they'd end up doing public service announcement commercials about how they lied to Congress when they said that.

Not that anything was ever done about cigarettes, and not that anything will ever be done about guns, UNTIL somebody passes some common sense laws banning the ability of industries to lobby Congress and donate money to political campaigns.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:35 AM

4. the nra and the gun manufacturers use fear as their marketing tool. nt

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:38 AM

5. I'd add Step 5

Convince people the government is coming to seize all of your guns and that you need to buy more guns and ammunition to protect yourself from the ATF.

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Response to PA Democrat (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:06 AM

6. from the ATF, or from the People's Republic of Escape From New York

A:Number 1

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:07 AM

7. You are mistaken in believing the abhorrance of conspiracy

would outweigh the self-enpowerment of owning guns...it won't.

Those who prop up the NRA get off WAY too much on their own notions of self reliance; being able to fight their fears, 'being prepared', and selfishly & uncontrollably feeding their perceived needs and wants are all too powerful. The wisdom and desire and importance of protecting those images are fed constantly.

So they cheer the great surge in gun sales, they are proud that ammunition is selling out...they will NOT worry 1 bit about giving money to the manufacturers who build their 'tools'...they are just another necessary part of the system that feeds them.

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Response to jmg257 (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:49 PM

11. You are correct.

That is evident even here on DU.

(edit spelling)

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:47 PM

9. There's a reason 95% of gun owners are not in the NRA

Also, I think something like 95% of gun owners support universal background checks for all purchases.

This is not a coincidence. This is also something we can pass.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 03:49 PM

10. Nice. These days, all you need to do is "follow the money" and the truth shall stand out. n/t

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:09 AM

12. Hence the reason Republicans have blocked every effort to introduce disclosure laws on

campaign financing.

Chris Matthews put it best when he said that in the old days Democrats wanted LIMITS on campaign financing, but not disclosure, and Republicans wanted disclosure but not limits. Now Democrats want both limits and disclosure, and Republicans are blocking both.

For the moment, however, I'd settle for just the disclosure laws. SUNSHINE IS THE BEST DISINFECTANT!

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:47 AM

13. After seeing what they're doing with SYG laws I was thinking I was being cyncical

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